I have kept my late 13 15" pro going and going and going. M2? Nah, 110 dollar trade in? FU Apple
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macOS Ventura Drops Support for Older Macs, Works With 2017 and Later Machines
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Too close for comfort... as I write this on a 2018 MacBook Pro and I have a 2019 iMac. I feel like this might be the last version of MacOS for either or both of these Macs.... I knew it was coming, but not so soon.
Surprised it’s so brutal. But agreed with the other posters, it’s drawing down the number of Intel Macs that have to be supported with each update cycle. Not happy to be proved mostly right about the number of years of support for Intel Macs, I would have thought three years after the AS transition is finished.
Yup. I'm still using mine as a backup to my 2019 27" iMac. I have a Roland GP-10 guitar processor, which is a pain to program manually via the onboard menu and LED display, but there's a great app to program it using a Mac. I get a message now saying that the extension won't be compatible with the next version of macOS. Since Roland hasn't updated it in years, I doubt they're going to. It's reason enough to hang onto my 2015 MBP running Monterey!
Because we all have money to spend to replace perfectly functioning devices in order for them to be secure.
Same boat with my 2015 iMac. Love it and I am so confused about what to get next. There are too many choices, configurations, and use cases that I am paralyzed on what to get.
I called this when they switched architectures. The Intel Macs aren't long for updates. Both my 2019 Macs were bad purchases, but I needed to upgrade. What sucks is the 2019 MBP I bought in August 2020. UGH. I knew the new chips were coming but I needed a new laptop and got a refurb. This is really going to kill the resale value for Intel Macs. Probably best to sell sooner rather than later. I'm going to upgrade to the M3 Max MacBook Pro which will probably be autumn 2023 and sell my iMac and MBP before they no longer receive the update in 2024. Hopefully by then there will be an in-betweener Pro display between the Studio Display and the Pro Display XDR that I can get to dock it to. The M-series is so powerful I don't think I will need a separate desktop anymore. The Ultra chip is too much for what I do.
There’s no need for an OS release each year.
I can’t say I’m exactly surprised. When Apple announced the transition to AS it was clear they would be dropping intel machines at a faster pace than usual. If I had to guess, the last intel machines will only see 2, at most 3, more major versions.
They’re still selling brand-new Intel Macs today.
I‘d bet that they will be supported for more than one year (on the newest OS).
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Nooooooo
Not my 2015 fully maxed MBP
NoNOOOOOOOOOOO
Time to chuck it out the window
Not my 2015 fully maxed MBP
NoNOOOOOOOOOOO
Time to chuck it out the window
Ouch!.. my 2015 15” rMBP Is my daily driver (I also have a 2019 16” that is secondary… I get it that some features probably require some elevated form of WIFI or BT technical spec that can’t be met, but still thats a big population of users out there and machines that will be boxed out.
Odd on the 2016 MBP as very little difference between 2016 and 2017.
Yes, they are going to drop your Intel machines ASAP, just like they did the same to PowerPC machines - three years after the Intel transition, poof, no more updates; your potentially only 4 year old Mac was now cut out of the loop. It was absolutely brutal, and I expect the same to happen here. Looking forward to saying hello to the AS only macOS 14 next year.
I'm not sure that matters. If the Intel Mac mini and Mac Pro are discontinued before the end of summer then macOS 14 is probably it. If they get discontinued after the release of Ventura, then they will probably get macOS 15. They will get one or two more OS updates and then the normal security updates until they are made obsolete. They will have an up to date OS until Fall of 2024 or 2025. I wouldn't expect more than that.
Apple sold the 2014 Mac Mini until 2018.
If you purchased it then, your machine got... 3 years of support.
That’s absolutely brutal.
If you purchased it then, your machine got... 3 years of support.
That’s absolutely brutal.
No, it’s not. There is zero reason for a governmental body to take interest in when Apple ends support for certain devices, especially when it’s transitioning from one CPU architecture to another. Trying to use governmental power to force Apple to support macOS ad infinitum is just sour grapes and whining at this point. Of course support for Intel-based computers is going to end eventually. Do you think it won’t? That smacks of naivete. Or worse. Stop whining to the government about your sense of entitlement.
Consumer protection is the reason.
Apple almost never undercut five years from date of release.
Mac Pro was released in late 2019.
I’m pretty sure it will receive at least macOS 14 next year.
My late 2015 iMac will have to go if I want the latest OS.
Seem to be going at a rate of 2 generations per year if the current pattern holds, so MacOS 14 would only support the final Intel Macs released in 2019 and 2020, then MacOS 15 would be M series macs only.
I edited my post. I sounded too sure and of course I'm not. But I'm still betting the latest is going to macOS 15 at most.