My Macs are getting old, but still work fine. Used the OS patch last year to install Monterey on the 2012 and 2013 MBP. If available, will do the same on my 2015 27" iMac. 99% of the time it works fine and not ready yet to buy something new.
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macOS Ventura Drops Support for Older Macs, Works With 2017 and Later Machines
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While I too am surprised to see some of the Macs no longer supported, I think those that are crying that their Macs are now dead are a bit exaggerated. If you Mac currently boots and let you do work your Mac isn't going to stop working when Ventura goes live. It just means you won't get those ruin features. Your Mac still works.
I could imagine this working pretty much hassle-free on 2016 macbook pro’s since they are as related to 2017 models as is technically possible. Getting it to work on 2015s will likely be a challenge, though.
Politicians are elected to represent the people. The people are the consumers. Consumer protection therefore protects their electorate. It's actually admirable and a reason that warranties aren't **** like in USA.
Intel does a tick-tock release for their chips. 2017 pro used the chip that was the tock to the 2016's tick. If Apple can support the 2017 pro, they can support the 2016.
In 2018, my local Apple store had the Mac Pro (2013) on display and the clerk showed me a Mac mini (2014). I laughed and asked how they could sell a 4 year old computer in their shop.
I have a hard time blaming the consumer for getting a product "late" in its lifecycle, but shame on Apple for pretending these ancient computers were real products.
Wow, I got my 2017 Macbook Air in Autumn 2018 and although I don’t use it as much, still thought it was OK for at least the next two OS updates. I’m not too fussed as I use my iPad a lot more than my iMac/Macbook these days but it still sucks. I take it the non supported machines will still receive security updates for a while?
Thé issue is my late 2015 5K iMac is still performing very well on Monterey. It’s a shame to upgrade a machine that works absolutely fine without issues! I guess it’s Monterey for some time for me
Oh man, end of the road for my 2016 Macbook Pro. What a bummer.
Looks like my wife's 2017 Macbook is just squeaking by.
Looks like my wife's 2017 Macbook is just squeaking by.
I had to replace the internal drive on my 2015 earlier this year when it died. I would have had a 2021 replacement, but after repeated delays I cancelled my order. Then my drive died.
Say what you will about Microsoft, but windows machine have a much longer life span. I have a 2011 PC that runs windows 10. I also have a 2010 iMac that was only supported for about 6 or 7 years. That is not long enough. Apple needs to do better. How green is a company that only supports their hardware for 6 years?
That is unacceptable. I like the new M2 MacBook Air, but not if it will only be supported for six years. It’s not worth it.
A reminder that, just because Apple releases new software from time to time, bar hardware failure the products you own will continue to work for many years to come.
I agree. I have a 2015 iMac running Big Sur and 2017 Macbook Air running Monterey. They are used for general web browsing, torrents and basically anything my iPad struggles with. After today, they are obsolete in terms of software updates but they still run flawlessly and I have no plan in replacing them anytime soon (unless of course the hardware fails).
I believe so. You have to use OpenCore Patcher. But hold off until the official release and see whether it works or not.
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I love when a Macs OS future dies, I love it! "I love it!"
It's at that point that I begin to "wrap up" the machine and start getting it all dedicated for what's going to be at it's 100% purpose.
I have 15 Macs that have dedicated purposes.
(still running and starting at February 1993, February 2023 with be 30 YEARS running strong, PCs, please...)
Quadra 800 with PowerPC Board = Dedicated MPW MacApp, 68K, PPC, FAT, compiler for "Old School App Compilation"
System 7.6.1 and AUX 3.1
Quadra 840av with GeoPort = Dedicated Landline Phone Answering Machine, Fax, and 33.6 Express Modem, with Claris Emailer Sending
System 8.1
PowerBook 520c = Dedicated Old School Mathematica 2.1 with Theorist i.e. Calculator for Funzies...
System 7.6.1
PowerMac G3 with Wings Card = VCR tape Converter, GeoPort if 840av dies, Old School Desktop Publishing tools i.e. Quark 5, still handy
System 8.6, System 9.2.2, macOS 10.2.8 (Jaguar), Server, in addition AppleShare IP 6 for Bridging 68K machines to G3 and G3 to G5
PowerMac G4 Dual (Doorstop (or Unreal Tournament 2003), hey even this has a purpose!)
System 10.4.11
PowerMac G5 Quad = MacMame Beast, along with installs of Adobe Software with MatLab and Server and Classic speedy MPW compiles!
System 10.4.11 (Tiger), System 10.5.8 (Leopard)
Mac Pro 2006 = Media Server
System 10.7.5 (Lion)
Mac Pro 2008 = Logic Studio 9 BEAST, Midi Tool Programming, Rosetta 1, 32bit/64bit App Runner
System 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard)
Mac Pro 2009 = macOS File Server for "everybody" thru "bridges." Dedicated, FileMaker Pro Server, Xcode 8/9/10 old Project Upgrader
System 10.13.6 (High Sierra)
MacBook Pro 2011 = Logic Studio 9 (Portable) BEAST (clone of 2008 Mac Pro)
System 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard)
Mac Pro 2013 = Vapor 4+, WebServer, Docker and VMWare, Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro, Project Converter and Audio Editing
System 10.15.7 (Catalina)
MacBook Pro 2015 = Logic Pro, Intel 32bit/64bit App Runner, Portable Backup of Mac Pro 2013
System 10.14.6 (Mojave)
MacBook Air 11" 2015 = Migrated BackPack AR HeadsUp Display Project since 2001 started with PowerBook G3 (Firewire) 32bit/64bit Apps
System 10.14.6 (Mojave)
MacBook Pro 2019 = with CalDigit Dock and eGPU with 6 monitors, for Coding and Detaching for Intel Native Xcode Testing...
System 11.6.4 (Big Sur)
MacBook Pro 2021 M1Pro = Daily [Driver] and Latest and Greatest macOS and Developer Tools...
System 12.4 (Monterey) AND BEYOND!
TO ME? When they die (the OS) they FLY!!
IDK what you guys are doing with your Macs but you're probably using them wrong.
They are meant to LAST, I've had a recap and ALL using SSDs or FlashMemoryCards aka Poor Mans SSD for 68K machines and G3s
I'm telling you, when they stop updating it's THE BEST thing that can Happen. In the Apple world, it's basically Apple saying, OK we're DONE with this Machine, or Line of Machines...
And you can sit back (and unfortunately hassle with the Security Updates) but essentially start giving it it's final PURPOSE...
Laters...
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And I am using a 2010 6 core 3.46 Xeon Mac Pro which also runs extremely quickly on Monterey 12.2, and a 12 core 2.7 6,1 Mac Pro which is very fast. I have no intention of moving to Apple silicon.
I just ordered a 7,1 and I'm waiting for it to be built and delivered. Maybe it will be my last Mac.
Wow, there are going to be a lot of new OpenCore Patcher users this year lol.
I'm running macOS Big Sur on my 2012 Macbook Pro (the one with a CD drive 😂) just fine. You can add an SSD and even max the RAM to 16GB. Apparently my machine also can run macOS Monterey too. Seen YouTube vids of that. OpenCore Patcher is a blessing for the Mac community. Apple is being arbitrary at this point.
Since it spoofs the 2017 iMac, it probably already does.pretty sure the Mac Pro folks will have it running on a 4,1 at some point in the near future
