I have had mine restart from sleep mode with 2 different hard drives, and with just the factory RAM and also with 3rd party RAM. I am hoping it is a software flaw.
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MacPro Harpertown Flaws - Leopard?? HELP!
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Unsat to have these problems on a brand new Mac Pro, and a revision 2 at that.
Apple's quality control seems to be non-existent these days.
Anyhow, make your genius appointment, but in the meantime, rip out all the hard drives and any extra memory that didn't come with the machine. Test it in its stock configuration. Make sure all the updates are done. Repair permissions. Check to see if there are any PPC apps that are causing problems as well. Once you're sure that these problems exist with the stock config, then when you get to the Apple Store and reproduce the problems, push for an exchange for a new one. The thing's a week old. Don't settle for anything less than a new Mac Pro.
Apple's quality control seems to be non-existent these days.
Anyhow, make your genius appointment, but in the meantime, rip out all the hard drives and any extra memory that didn't come with the machine. Test it in its stock configuration. Make sure all the updates are done. Repair permissions. Check to see if there are any PPC apps that are causing problems as well. Once you're sure that these problems exist with the stock config, then when you get to the Apple Store and reproduce the problems, push for an exchange for a new one. The thing's a week old. Don't settle for anything less than a new Mac Pro.
This IS a revision 2 Mac Pro. Seeing as how he's waited almost a year for the Harpertown revision, I don't think he is an "early adopter".
Heh. It's a whole new chipset, silly.
You're always good for a laugh.
Oh I can't wait to see if my Mac Pro does this!
Is it Apple's or the 3rd Party vendor's decision as to wether or not you get a completely new computer?
Andrew
Is it Apple's or the 3rd Party vendor's decision as to wether or not you get a completely new computer?
Andrew
No doubt it is a software issue, and certainly it will be resolved with software whatever the cause.
whatever
Hey, don't sweat it, man. It's kind of comforting in a way to know that there are people out there that think because a case is the same, the computer is the same. I mean, chipsets, memory, bus speeds, GPUs, CPUs, expansion buses... when all of those change I tend to think that it's not a revision, but rather a new model.
On your side you've got, what? The case? Maybe there haven't been a lot of changes to that. Hey, look on the bright side! Maybe the power supply hasn't changed that much... well, maybe it has. But the optical drive! I bet it's still the same. And the keyboard... oh wait... darn.
I may remind you that compared to the (smooth, flawless) G5 -> Intel transition, the latest Penryn upgrade is a minor speed bump. The variety and number of hassles, instabilities, and general quality control issues reported with this latest iteration of the Mac Pro line is far out of proportion to the magnitude of that upgrade.
Nonetheless, it's nice to see you're such a wizard as to recognize that the new Penryn Mac Pro, by virtue of some upgraded innards, is a new Mac Pro. Thanks for enlightening us.
This same problem exists with the 2.66ghz mac pros mine does it too.
Its started with 10.5 I know a couple people have this problem. There is a thread going on about it.
This same problem exists with the 2.66ghz mac pros mine does it too.
Mine hasn't frozen up since:
1) No longer running Hardware Monitor continuously in the background
2) Cleaning out my X1900 and applying Arctic Silver compound to the GPU and heatsink
From outside appearances, perhaps. Not being an Apple engineer, I don't know which systems provided them with a greater challenge. Do you? Assuming that the same groups worked on both systems, your contention that the 2008s haven't gone as smoothly would seem to suggest greater challenges.
Don't let your own arguments beat you.
Welp, Apple Care on the phone is pointless. This lady was literally reading a script. "Turn off the computer and hold these 4 keys".... "Go to Apple, Preferences and tell me what it says under Energy Saver." Ya kidding me right? I've been using Macs all my life, I know that ABC's. Anyway, she was useless, went to the Apple Store and spoke to my friend. Bringing it to the Genius' (HA!) to get it diagnosed tomorrow. Hopefully its terminally ill. Will let you all know how it goes tomorrow.
BTW, left the system on for two hours, came back, frozen again.
BTW, left the system on for two hours, came back, frozen again.
Just out of curiosity, when you format a Hard Drive to install Mac OSX on it, do you format as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) ??
Are you taking it to the Cambridgeside Galleria? A dollar says the 'Genius' there will attempt 'repairing permissions' as a first step.
Hahaha, no taking it to the Northshore mall. I'm going in with a printed list of all the problems and what I have done to try to fix it...
Right now I just installed Leopard on another Hard Drive to see if thats the problem. How do I go about Cloning this drive to the one that came with the machine?
Here is what I did. I placed the new hard drive in slot 2 and ran Carbon Copy Clone from disk 1 to 2. I then switched from the new hard drive to slot 1 and moved the boot disk(or original 320gb) to slot 2. I changed the startup disk to the new hard drive in disk 1 and then formatted the old hard drive. Very easy and quick.
Anyone NOT having this flaw?
Is this an issue with all mac pros? It freezing after two hours. Can people post if they're not having this issue?
Andrew
Is this an issue with all mac pros? It freezing after two hours. Can people post if they're not having this issue?
Andrew
I had finally convinced myself to save up a little more and buy an 8 Core 2.8GHz Mac Pro instead of a 2.8GHz iMac, but reading these problems has made me think twice.
I remember the days when Apple computers never crashed, and were the most reliable computers available.
Anyone not having these problems? I don't want to spend nearly £2000 on a computer if it's going to have problems (especially being a uni studen).
I remember the days when Apple computers never crashed, and were the most reliable computers available.
Anyone not having these problems? I don't want to spend nearly £2000 on a computer if it's going to have problems (especially being a uni studen).
From what I am now seeing, I think it could be a Hard Drive issue. The one that shipped with Apple. I know most other people with this model has been having the "Sleep, awake from sleep, restart" problem.
Oh yeah, who is the manufacturer of the hard drive?
I'm curious, maybe the different brands of HDDs Apple is using is causing this. I have a WD stock drive and haven't had a problem.
I'm curious, maybe the different brands of HDDs Apple is using is causing this. I have a WD stock drive and haven't had a problem.
Please keep us posted about what happens with Apple and what they say, etc. I'm really eager to switch from my custom built windows pc to a mac desktop (finally), but will need to see how you're getting on first.
(I'll be buying mine online in order to get my HE discount so it wouldn't be as easy as taking it back to the store if there were problems)
(I'll be buying mine online in order to get my HE discount so it wouldn't be as easy as taking it back to the store if there were problems)
Not sure, when I open it up to take out the 3rd party stuff I will let you know. It's just pissing me off cause I need to get so many things done. Hopefully that's what it is and they can detect that easy tomorrow and not keep this machine there overnight.