I don't get the big deal. I rememeber back in the day when I used Webroot and I had to buy it every year. This was before everything was a downlaod and I had the buy the disk from a store, every year.
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The issue was, after 6 months, it never got better. It couldn't even learn new passwords reliably. As far as function goes, I don't ever recall it being one click. It was constantly jumping over to the app asking me to unlock the app then selecting stuff.
Nope, you're wrong. After a year you STILL have access to you passwords, you just can autofill or add new ones, but have access to all of them.I'm only half joking, but a subscription based password service is basically Ransomware. After a year if you ever want access to your passwords again you must pay.
Not really. You can download all your data, put your passwords in iCloud Keychain, and kiss 1Password goodbye, without saltiness or being held to ransom.
Yep, you're right and having forgotten to resubscribe one time - I still had access to all my data on all my devices, it just wouldn't sync changes. Was fully functional locally.
Yea, if you use all Apple, I don't. I uses Windows, Linux, Apple, and Android.
1Password has been a mature product for years. The only real changes needed nowadays are bug fixes and possible compatibility issues with a new OS. Hardly worth being locked into a subscription for such a mature product when there are free options that I personally think are just as good or better. I think a fair subscription price for 1Password would be $1/mth....not $3/mth....just principle for me. That's why I changed several years ago to Bitwarden and have not been disappointed.
This is how I pay for mine. It's GREAT and saves a few bucks.For those who do pay for yearly individual or family plans, one way to save a little bit of money (even though it's a bit more upfront) is to buy their $125 gift card for $99. I do this anytime I need to renew with them. $125 will pay for 2 years of the family plan and the leftover balance can then be added to the next $125 gift card purchase. Basically you are pre-paying them for two years for $99. For me, I know I like their service and, while I would prefer a one-time price, I can save a little bit by doing this. You can get their gift cards here:
Digital Gift Cards | Give the Gift of Secure Passwords | 1Password
Gift a 1Password subscription account, pay with PayPal, Apple Pay, Visa, Mastercard. Redeem a gift code for your account or purchase a code for a friend.1password.com
That's the theory, but unfortunately I haven't really been seeing 1Password deliver on that promise. Updates don't seem to be all that frequent / significant, and yet several pretty serious issues remain in the app years after reporting them.
The most egregious flaw is that if you have multiple passwords for the different accounts hosted on different subdomains (e.g. service1.example.com vs. service2.example.com), 1Password doesn't correctly differentiate. If you visit service1.example.com, autofill your credentials there, and then visit service2.example.com afterwards, 1Password will try to autofill the credentials from service1 on service2. (Whichever one you autofill first gets priority, though this resets after some amount of time.)
It's certainly a little unusual to have completely different services hosted on different subdomains, but there's absolutely no reason the website at service1.example.com has to have anything to do with service2.example.com. This is really no different than autofilling a password from, say, apple.com on google.com. (And yes, I do have all the password entries correctly configured with the correct websites. This bug was introduced with an update ~3 years ago.)
Other than this, 1Password autofill support is frequently flaky and/or just broken in one way or another. The number of times I've had to kill every process related to 1Password and/or restart my browser (depending on what's wrong, one, the other, or both may be required) just to get autofill working is ridiculous.
There's also the time 1Password prepended "http://" to all my website fields on an upgrade (I don't put full URLs in that field, because they always change eventually), causing 1Password to start warning me that every single website was insecure. But at least that was a one-off I've been able to fix one password at a time as I hit the warning.
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But you could have skipped a version or two. Now you have to pay every month or every year.
I typically do not upgrade my apps every time they offer a upgrade
To each their own, thanks for offering this deal, and make sure to use various users’ tips on buying the digital card to save cash if you expect to stick with them for a while and don’t mind having the leftover “credit” on your account.
iCloud Keychain & Keychain Access do everything I need, and also sync across all of my Apple devices.
My Windows and Android (and Chrome) use boils down to never trusting the system, with only a single password being brought to those platforms at a time. I can mostly trust my Linux boxen as well, but keep them lean anyway.
iCloud Keychain & Keychain Access do everything I need, and also sync across all of my Apple devices.
My Windows and Android (and Chrome) use boils down to never trusting the system, with only a single password being brought to those platforms at a time. I can mostly trust my Linux boxen as well, but keep them lean anyway.
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Back then if you wanted to get updates, yes you had to buy it. Would you run a virus scan and not get updates/definitions? No, the program is useless then.
I generally avoided applications that forced me to pay for an upgrade every year. I've had many antivirus apps that continued to update the virus definition even if I was a version down.
Bitwarden's TOTP functionality is awesome. Plus applications like this which have an ongoing server component frankly have a stronger argument for subscription support than, say, Adobe does.
(Adobe made lots of claims regarding how the subscription model would change how they manage their software, but it was all a lie - they basically just do big point releases, just like before).
Subscriptions are an odd beast. On one hand, I can see why people would be wary of them. For some, it's cumbersome to keep track of (my suggestion is to just note somewhere all your subscriptions. What the company is, what service plan/tier/levels are, how much you pay per year/month, and when it renews or if it's monthly). OTOH, subscription is a strong motivation for the company to provide superior service. For the "one-time" models, they already have your money. For subscriptions, if they don't keep up with the joneses, you literally cut off their source of funding. Yes, they want your "goodwill" and good reviews too, but money speaks volumes
Office 365 comes with a generous online storage. That alone has been worth it to me. Then there are features like using Office on computers without it installed, and you do always get the latest versions.
Apple's Keychain is pretty limited compared to most of these other services.
Keychain doesn't even let you view your Secure Notes on iOS or iPadOS. If you want to associate some note with an auto-fillable password, you have to maintain a second, separate Secure Note for that. Also, it doesn't support shared encrypted keychains, which all of these other services offer (Apple has really dropped the ball regarding sharing - across pretty much ALL of their services).
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I see. If you are willing to try again, this is how I have tweaked my 1Password setup, ever since I sold my Touch ID MacBook. Each restart/ fresh start, 1Password will need your master password, and with these settings, effectively does not need them anymore till I restart. The day I get Touch ID on my computer again, I will switch back to their default security, that is, 10-minute auto lock.
These settings will help you have the most seamless experience with 1Password after you have filled in your password once (after restart/ fresh start).
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Agreed. 1Password is fancy, it’s slick, it’s a great app for all it does... but $35+ per year for a password manager? It just feels like you’re being swindled.
I don't know, for something I use almost hour of my work day and very regularly of my at home day --- on 6+ devices... I've used other password managers and this one works really well for me. $35/year for something I use probably 20+ times a day seems very reasonable for me.
I've used LastPass and several of the other password managers. I liked to do my research before settling down. This one worked best for me and my workflow. Not only that, my family uses it too on all their devices - all under one payment plan.
I like how when it went to subscription service, they updated the app so I get this pop-up every time I launch. That's why I ditched the platform, I'll use anything else as soon as they cripple this version fully.
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Because greed.
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Because greed.
I hate it when apps try to get me to buy **** with a popup every time you launch it. Infuriates me.
@TiggrToo has a good post earlier in this thread about why a lot of companies avoided iCloud for syncing data. I was actually a user of Day One when they chose to abandon iCloud for syncing because of all the issues they had. iCloud would decide not to sync things for the longest time for no reason - provided a lot of problems and pain for their customer support. I experienced this using the old Day One client that utilized iCloud.
Even today sometimes files take awhile to decide that they want to sync unlike other cloud services that are near instant in that department (OneDrive, Dropbox, etc).
It's sad. That said, I'd prefer iCloud syncing (I like to keep my data local if I can).
I use Day One and I remember those days, iCloud doe syncing just sucks.
I will keep that in mind. How do I solve iOS from jumping into the 1Password app?
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iCloud may have had issues for DayOne, but the issue I have with them is that they removed the option and moved to a solution that forces me to pay them a subscription to unlock features that don't necessitate a subscription. It doesn't matter if it wasn't up to their standard because they removed a feature I used and then charged more for the replacement.
And before someone says 'but Apple does things like that' neither DayOne nore 1Password are Apple.
I have the family plan and it comes out to less than $12 a year per person, and I think that’s a steal. I know I can get cheaper, but I like it a lot, and user friendly for someone like my mom. The subscription saved my mom a few times when she forgot her master password. As an family organize, I can help her recover her account and set a new master password. I also have my 1Password on 7 different devices and I use it (and that’s just my stuff).
Like you, 20+ plus times a day. The guest vaults are great for work, it doesn’t go against a user count, and I don’t have my personal passwords on my work computer.
This is 1 subscription I don’t mind paying at all. It has all of my secret and it works great. $1 a month to protect my online data, well worth it. I rather pay this then Netflix, I use Password more daily than Netflix.
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