MacRumors Exclusive: Get 50% Off Your First Year of the 1Password Individual Plan ($17.94 for the Year)

[Apple_Robert]

I'm only half joking, but a subscription based password service is basically Ransomware. After a year if you ever want access to your passwords again you must pay.

That is not true. If you don’t pay for a second year, you still have complete access to 1Password, you just can’t add new categories and logins to the app.

 

[gugy]

If anything I’m MORE willing to pay a subscription for a password manager. I expect and want it to continue to be developed and for the services to be rock solid and secure.

Why should I pay for an office suite or photo manipulation tools that are basically static? I can’t think of a single new feature that Adobe and Microsoft have introduced that I rely upon daily.

As for the general disdain for subscriptions, I fully get it. That’s why I don’t indulge companies like Adobe and Microsoft or Intuit. But I also realize that the Pay-once model is probably not sufficient for long term viability.

Adobe is my main suite of apps for work. I would rather pay once but honestly, if you make a living using their apps, the subscription price isn't so bad and you always have up to date software.
On the other hand a bunch of apps that have a single purpose like 1Password should have a one time fee and that's it. We already are bombarded with so many subscriptions. If people are comfortable subscribing it, then good and enjoy it...It's just not for me.

 

[riverfreak]

I'm only half joking, but a subscription based password service is basically Ransomware. After a year if you ever want access to your passwords again you must pay.

50% joking aside, your statement is 100% untrue.

I just imported my entire 1Password database of over 500 entries into a new KeepassXC database, then synced it to StrongBox on my phone.

 

[The Phazer]

The worst part of 1Password's subscription offering is that if you don't want to use their cloud it's impossible.

I'd even give them the money if they really feel like they need it for development, but I've just no interest in a cloud based password solution. I don't want a 1password account, I don't want a Master Password that's used for their website, I don't want cloud backups, I don't want any of it.

But they're making that solution harder and harder to use and set up, and that's worrying.

 

[Mr. Heckles]

The worst part of 1Password's subscription offering is that if you don't want to use their cloud it's impossible.

I'd even give them the money if they really feel like they need it for development, but I've just no interest in a cloud based password solution. I don't want a 1password account, I don't want a Master Password that's used for their website, I don't want cloud backups, I don't want any of it.

But they're making that solution harder and harder to use and set up, and that's worrying.

it’s not impossible

https://support.1password.com/cs/sync-with-dropbox/

support.1password.com

 

[Fishback]

Very happy with my switch from LastPass (good product, price jacked) to BitWarden. Paid the very low premium price.

 

[DCIFRTHS]

you can do better than nordvpn

Better price wise, or with security, reliability etc.?
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On another note...
The only way I can get autofill to work with 1Password is to have the entry in the “Logins” folder within my vault. This is on iOS, I paid for the pro version. Any suggestions, or is this “as designed”?

 

[japanime]

Yep, you're right and having forgotten to resubscribe one time - I still had access to all my data on all my devices, it just wouldn't sync changes. Was fully functional locally.

To me, this is a potentially dangerous "feature" of 1Password's subscription service. I understand why 1Password would continue to make a former subscriber's data available on the servers for a short period of time. But it keeps your data on the server indefinitely unless you delete it yourself.

I'm sure some people sign up for the trial, maybe even pay for a subscription, enter a bunch of passwords, then decide they don't want to use the service but never bother to delete their data or even know they have that option.

I realize 1Password uses end-to-end encryption. But bad people are always looking for ways to breach the security of servers filled with valuable data. If such a breach occurs while a person is a subscriber, they'll certainly be informed by 1Password. But if they are a former subscriber, they may never know about it.

I say all of this as a longtime 1Password standalone user. It's a very handy and powerful manager. But that's all it really is -- a manager. Your strongest password is only as secure as the website into which you enter it.

 

[TiggrToo]

I'm only half joking, but a subscription based password service is basically Ransomware. After a year if you ever want access to your passwords again you must pay.

Hyperbole much?

At any time you can export ALL your data.

That wasn't evan half a joke. Wasn't remotely funny. It's just a flat out lie.
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I like how when it went to subscription service, they updated the app so I get this pop-up every time I launch. That's why I ditched the platform, I'll use anything else as soon as they cripple this version fully.View attachment 932268
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Because greed.

Wrong.

It's because of instability of iCloud for syncing,

 

[soundsgoodtome]

Like many here, I hate subscriptions. However, I occasionally pay them if the pricing is reasonable. I used 1Password for many years, and I always bought every new version. But $36/year for a subscription? As capable as 1Password is, that's simply too much money. It should be half of that.

Meanwhile, I've now been using iCloud Keychain for several months. Is it as slick as 1Password? No. But my passwords are stored and are retrievable when needed—and I don't miss 1Password. If they lowered the price, I'd jump in again. But even though I can afford it, I think it's simply overpriced.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Like many here, I hate subscriptions. However, I occasionally pay them if the pricing is reasonable. I used 1Password for many years, and I always bought every new version. But $36/year for a subscription? As capable as 1Password is, that's simply too much money. It should be half of that.

Meanwhile, I've now been using iCloud Keychain for several months. Is it as slick as 1Password? No. But my passwords are stored and are retrievable when needed—and I don't miss 1Password. If they lowered the price, I'd jump in again. But even though I can afford it, I think it's simply overpriced.

What do you use as a backup to iCloud Keychain?

 

[WorldIRC]

I've been using 1Password for a few days and so far I like it.
I tried BitWarden. It doesn't have Touch ID (for Mac OS) which is quite annoying.

 

[QuarterSwede]

Used to love 1Password, until they turned into a foolish subscription model. I'm not locking myself into a subscription for a password manager. I have since been using the awesome free and open source Bitwarden. Love it!

Same. I love 1P but BitWarden is great for being free for most users. It works even better than 1P with certain things too.

 

[Apple_Robert]

The one thing that hasn’t worked well for me with Bitwarden, is importing 1Password. Bitwarden looks like a mess after importing.

 

[sk1ski1]

I've been using 1Password for a few days and so far I like it.
I tried BitWarden. It doesn't have Touch ID (for Mac OS) which is quite annoying.

Touch ID for the Mac is on their roadmap for later this year - https://community.bitwarden.com/t/bitwarden-roadmap/12865

 

[7149041]

I recently froze all my cards and got new ones only because I lost track of who is charging me for what how often and through which card. Now I keep using everything, and once a service stops because of a billing issue, I reevaluate its usefulness, and if deemed necessary, I plug it onto a dedicated Revolut card, where I can easily track what's going on in the app. Subscription model has grown like a cancer, and the only way we can vote against it is with our wallets.

 

[riverfreak]

I recently froze all my cards and got new ones only because I lost track of who is charging me for what how often and through which card. Now I keep using everything, and once a service stops because of a billing issue, I reevaluate its usefulness, and if deemed necessary, I plug it onto a dedicated Revolut card, where I can easily track what's going on in the app. Subscription model has grown like a cancer, and the only way we can vote against it is with our wallets.

All this handwringing about subscriptions is easily solved.

Use privacy.com to mint a credit card tied to a specific vendor and limited to the amount of what a (for example) one year of service is. That essentially makes the subscription a one-time annual purchase. Subscription problem solved.

 

[highground]

I want the developers of my password manager (for godsakes) to be feeling good about their ROI, providing great support, and in it for the long haul. This is the last piece of software you want mickey-moused or falling down because of a shaky or unsustainable business model.

While the Mac UI annoys me at times, 1Password has never let me down in 10+ years. I got no problem with $5/mo for the entire family.

 

[NazgulRR]

Can someone confirm if by taking advantage of this 1year offer you can still choose to sync your vault via iCloud? Or does it force using their own servers?

 

[bice]

... OTOH, subscription is a strong motivation for the company to provide superior service. For the "one-time" models, they already have your money. For subscriptions, if they don't keep up with the joneses, you literally cut off their source of funding. Yes, they want your "goodwill" and good reviews too, but money speaks volumes
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On the contrary.
The subscription model appeals to vendors as there such a strong lock-in effect. Buyers pay way more with this model, because the nature of people is non-action. With a subscription model, non-action means they stay on and keep paying, regardless of what is offered. With paid upgrades, the natural state of non-action would mean no more money coming in.

So there is very little incentive to do much for those already locked-in. What the vendor focuses on is to get new buyers to sign up, meaning they focus on bells-and-whistles, what ever is in fashion at the moment. They know that for every 100 new signed up, e.g. 45 will stay for more than 2 years without any new sales efforts, meaning more revenue with less spending on development and marketing.

 

[mthomas184]

For those of you who dont want to pay $35 a year for 1Password, I highly recommend Enpass. If you haven't seen or heard of them, here is a link. Ive been using them for a while and use iCloud to sync my vaults. Never had an issue and pretty much does everything 1Password does, for a helluva lot less money

 

[azentropy]

Hyperbole much?

At any time you can export ALL your data.

That wasn't evan half a joke. Wasn't remotely funny. It's just a flat out lie.

Butthurt much? Jeez - I stand corrected on iPassword. Although I'm pretty sure when I looked at it years ago, or a similar product, there was NOT a method for exporting. Either way companies "could" change the terms at any time and not allow you to export so it is something to consider. So I would recommend frequent exports/backups.

 

[incoherent_1]

Subscriptions for the sake of subscriptions are terrible. But when a service has to utilize a service that costs them on a monthly basis to provide syncing features - subscriptions are kind of expected. For me, I don't have a problem paying for a subscription for Day One, VPNs, Office 365, cloud storage, etc. But if there is no reason for a subscription, I prefer standalone apps - and I'll go way out of my way to do that. I hate subscriptions but I'll pay them if I see justification.

Yep! Totally agree.

 

[tennisproha]

Apple has truly great built in capabilities, and Keychain came a long way with iCloud, auto-fill and password management. However with 1Password, you can manage passwords for entire family, especially, parents. Plus, it can be used for 2FA and as storage and sharing solution for important documents.

Interesting that it can be used for 2FA. iCloud Drive works for storage for me.
How’s the privacy stance on 1Password?

 

[Mr. Heckles]

On the contrary.
The subscription model appeals to vendors as there such a strong lock-in effect. Buyers pay way more with this model, because the nature of people is non-action. With a subscription model, non-action means they stay on and keep paying, regardless of what is offered. With paid upgrades, the natural state of non-action would mean no more money coming in.

So there is very little incentive to do much for those already locked-in. What the vendor focuses on is to get new buyers to sign up, meaning they focus on bells-and-whistles, what ever is in fashion at the moment. They know that for every 100 new signed up, e.g. 45 will stay for more than 2 years without any new sales efforts, meaning more revenue with less spending on development and marketing.

Actually I’m saving a lot of money on this vs when I paid the one time. I found a receipt in my email when I got 1Password for my Mac and it was $50 and the iOS one was $10, that’s $60. Now I probably got 2 years out of that, so $30 a year I paid for it (only 2 devices). My mom, in-laws, and daughter all paid the same. so combined it’s about $240 for 2 years, so $120 a year (I didn’t include my wife because we use the same MacBook at the time, I don’t remember if she needed a separate one or not back then). We are all on the family plan, $59.88 a year, so now we pay $11.97 a year, less than $1 a month per person. Now, I can have it on unlimited devices, and I do. myself, I have it on 7, and I know my daughter has it on 4. I know I will always have the latest version, on any device I want, and it’s saves me money. Especially doing the $125 gift card for $99.

I feel like I get updates quickly and any feature that they can use (touch ID on a MacBook) is ready at launch. I read Bitwarden still doesn’t support this and Touch ID has been out for how long?