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The system is designed to be flexible. You can assign different points including negative ones. You can also make votes whatever you want.

We just stuck with the default.

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So if you post a sad story and others agree that it's a sad story so give you the Sad face it actually counts against you?
Not really... sad gives you zero "points", so it has no impact on your overall "reactions" score.

You can see your total reactions in your profile popup.

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Ah, yes, @mollyc: Since the latest move, "likes" are now described as "reactions".

And, while a 'negative' like does seem a contradiction in terms, I can see how a 'reaction' might be negative.

However, I do agree with the point that both yourself and @Huntn have made: Namely, that you can "like" a post while still expressing sadness or sorrow at its content, and that this shouldn't necessarily be seen in a "negative" or "zero" light.
 
Some of the issues:

  1. I click on the box (Write your reply...) and hit 'return' -> it no longer starts typing with a capitalized character, I have to manually hit shift on my keyboard
  2. This also happens when first typing a sentence, then hitting Return.
  3. Hitting Return a second time does trigger the Shift key, but you're still positioned only one line down despite having hit Return twice
  4. Hit Return again to move to the third line, but again no capitalized first character
  5. Hit Return a fourth time and Shift is active again, but it stays on the third line
  6. Moving the cursor using the spacebar long-press does move the cursor, but visually I'm taken to the bottom of the page (this happens sporadically)

(iOS 13.1.2, iPhone XS, Safari)

I've also seen some other weird behavior that was far more annoying, but I have forgotten how it happened and haven't been able to replicate it yet. I was kind of expecting that these issues where reported already, but I haven't found it or had a response on my previous post...
I'm seeing this too. Safari 13.0.2 in iOS 13 and macOS 15.
 
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Has the work on the forum upgraded ceased? The front page of the forums still looks horrible - amateurish and with graphics that could have been done by a 5 year old. The colors are still incredibly hard on the eyes... and I still have problems distinguishing the new/unread posts ("bolded" font??) from the read posts.

ok, I made a change in dark mode to make the "read" and "unread" threads look more different

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I don’t pay attention to Like counts but that is the way I use the reactions.
Knowing what I know now, I won’t be using sad and angry likes for posts I approve of. But that is just me, and I think it’s good to know which likes really count as likes versus neutral expressions, the difference between a +1 and a 0, because other people you are responding to know the difference, not that in the big scheme of things it’s all that important. ;) <- Emoticons are my primary method for expressing my emotion, approval or disapproval, or something in between.

In response to why are like tallys kept, it is just a measure of your social impact on the board and some people like knowing, including myself. :)
 
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Ah, yes, @mollyc: Since the latest move, "likes" are now described as "reactions".

And, while a 'negative' like does seem a contradiction in terms, I can see how a 'reaction' might be negative.

However, I do agree with the point that both yourself and @Huntn have made: Namely, that you can "like" a post while still expressing sadness or sorrow at its content, and that this shouldn't necessarily be seen in a "negative" or "zero" light.
The way I look at it if the moderators are listening :D, a “like” is a like, (the button says like) and consequently every variation of a like should be positive and earn a +1 in the like totals. This would allow people to simultaneously express a like for the post along with an emotion associated with the topic. That way the emoticons of which there are a huge pool could be reserved for other emotions including negative ones directed at the post or the author. 🌝
 
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Knowing what I know now, I won’t be using sad and angry likes for posts I approve of. But that is just me, and I think it’s good to know which likes really count as likes versus neutral expressions, the difference between a +1 and a 0, because other people you are responding to know the difference, not that in the big scheme of things it’s all that important. ;) <- Emoticons are my primary method for expressing my emotion, approval or disapproval.
The way I look at it if the moderators are listening :D, a “like” is a like, and consequently every variation of a like should be positive and earn a +1 in the like totals. This would allow people to simultaneously express a like for the post along with an emotion associated with the topic. 🌝

I agree with you.

A few days ago, I started a thread on the death of Robert Forster (who played the role of bail bondsman Max Cherry in Jackie Brown, with Pam Grier - with such understated bittersweet charm - rarely have I seen middle aged affection and attraction expressed with such exquisite integrity) which gave rise to a number of "likes" with the 'sad' emoticons added.

Or, when I wrote yesterday (in a thread about lenses and why one is not shooting pictures at the moment) about the fact that my mother had passed away last December and I haven't taken any shots since, again, "likes" (warm and sympathetic responses) came freighted with emoticons of sorrow and sadness.

To me, these are examples of liking the post while expressing empathetic or sympathetic - sorrow or sadness at the content, which is not the same - to my mind - as a "zero" (or negative) response.

Anyway, what it simply means is that - while I rarely employ emoticons in any case, - I shall not use these one to "like" a post, while signalling sadness at the content.
 
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Not really... sad gives you zero "points", so it has no impact on your overall "reactions" score.

You can see your total reactions in your profile popup.

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Yes but they might appreciate the post even if it is sad and they approve of the post, and that the author took the time to post it, because it highlights say a social issue. Imo, a “sad like” even an ”angry like” should still count as +1. 🕺
 
Yes but they might appreciate the post even if it is sad and they approve of the post, and that the author took the time to post it, because it highlights say a social issue. Imo, a “sad like” even an ”angry like” should still count as +1. 🕺
I get your point, but I was just mentioned that the sad like does not lower your score/reactions count.

Like you said, I can see if I posted, "I just saw a guy kick a puppy in front of my house" getting a lot of sad or even angry reactions in sympathy or support of my comment, so arguably should be given reactions points.
 
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I agree with you.

A few days ago, I started a thread on the death of Robert Forster (who played the role of bail bondsman Max Cherry in Jackie Brown, with Pam Grier - with such understated bittersweet charm - rarely have I seen middle aged affection and desire expressed with such exquisite integrity) which gave rise to a number of "likes" with the 'sad' emoticons added.

Or, when I wrote yesterday (in a thread about lenses and why one is not shooting pictures at the moment) about the fact that my mother had passed away last December and I haven't taken any shots since, again, "likes" (warm and sympathetic responses) came freighted with emoticons of sorrow and sadness.

To me, this are examples of liking the post while expressing empathetic or sympathetic - sorrow or sadness at the content, which is not the same - to my mind - as a "zero" (or negative) response.

Anyway, what it simply means is that - while I rarely employ emoticons in any case, - I shall not use these one to "like" a post, while signalling sadness at the content.
I agree. The consideration here is where you are expressing an emotion directed at the post, versus a judgement that could be directed at either the toptic or the author of the post.

I think it would be simpler to reserve the “like“ category as it is labeled a like which is directed at the topic, the author, or both, but don’t give the author a zero for posting something you think is important and might make you sad or angry too.

Sorry, I think I am repeating myself for emphasis. 🦕 :)
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I get your point, but I was just mentioned that the sad like does not lower your score/reactions count.

Like you said, I can see if I posted, "I just saw a guy kick a puppy in front of my house" getting a lot of sad or even angry reactions in sympathy or support of my comment, so arguably should be given reactions points.
Thanks for listening! Please post if and when all likes are now +1, just so I can adjust my posting accordingly. :)
 
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ok, I made a change in dark mode to make the "read" and "unread" threads look more different

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Thank you. Is there anything like that coming for the colored forum name links themselves (both in light and dark mode), for example when you are viewing all forums at https://forums.macrumors.com/ and have a way to see which forums might be read vs. which ones might have unread content?
 
I agree. The consideration here is where you are expressing an emotion directed at the post, versus a judgement that could be directed at either the toptic or the author of the post.

I think it would be simpler to reserve the “like“ category as it is labeled a like which is directed at the topic, the author, or both, but don’t give the author a zero for posting something you think is important and might make you sad or angry too.

Sorry, I think I am repeating myself for emphasis. 🦕 :)
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Thanks for listening! Please post if and when all likes are now +1. :)

Again, at the risk of repetition, (but still very much on topic), I both agree with the sentiments expressed in this post, and have also clicked on "like" (but with no emoticons for emphasis) to further stress that point.
 
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Again, at the risk of repetition, (but still very much on topic), I both agree with the sentiments expressed in this post, and have also clicked on "like" (but with no emoticons for emphasis) to further stress that point.

Well, i will continue to use the emoticon/reaction likes as I see fit. If someone posts, "my dog died" and I want to sympathize I will give it a sad face, not a like. I wouldn't "like" that post. I might Love it, as in give the poster a virtual hug, but the Love button is a little too happy of an icon for a dead dog, IMO (by way of example). Given that I have way more Likes than Posts for my own profile, I will just React as necessary. :)
 
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Well, i will continue to use the emoticon/reaction likes as I see fit. If someone posts, "my dog died" and I want to sympathize I will give it a sad face, not a like. I wouldn't "like" that post. I might Love it, as in give the poster a virtual hug, but the Love button is a little too happy of an icon for a dead dog, IMO (by way of example). Given that I have way more Likes than Posts for my own profile, I will just React as necessary. :)

Well said, - and a very elegantly drawn distinction - and I must say that I warmly welcomed (and appreciated) your 'reaction' yesterday to my own posts on why (for now) the muse of photography does not seem to be whispering my name while entreating me to head out and follow him or her on a path of creative (or relaxing) shooting.
 
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@arn, any possibility of placing the "Watched" link/dropdown in the top menu (when signed in) right after "Trending" -- basically have it swap places with the "Find threads" link/dropdown?

When signed in it seems that "Watched" would likely be something that gets used more often than "Find threads" (at least it certainly is in my case), and, perhaps more importantly, when using the forums on a phone like iPhone 7 (and various others) it seems that only the first three links appear in the menu and you need to scroll to get to the other ones before you can use them, so having "Watched" be the third one would make it easier/faster to access.
 
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@arn, any possibility of placing the "Watched" link/dropdown in the top menu (when signed in) right after "Trending" -- basically have it swap places with the "Find threads" link/dropdown?

When signed in it seems that "Watched" would likely be something that gets used more often than "Find threads" (at least it certainly is in my case), and, perhaps more importantly, when using the forums on a phone like iPhone 7 (and various others) it seems that only the first three links appear in the menu and you need to scroll to get to the other ones before you can use them, so having "Watched" be the third one would make it easier/faster to access.

The whole nav bar is a bit of a mess. I'm looking to improve on it. In the meanwhile, this move makes sense.
 
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I have a minor aesthetical complaint: please turn off the generic avatar placeholders in the threads, or at least give me the option to do so. If someone does not have an avatar, just put the name up there like it . used to be. The generic avatars are a useless waste of space.

(In a forum list view, fine, but inside a thread, we do not need them.)
 
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I have a minor aesthetical complaint: please turn off the generic avatar placeholders in the threads, or at least give me the option to do so. If someone does not have an avatar, just put the name up there like it . used to be. The generic avatars are a useless waste of space.

(In a forum list view, fine, but inside a thread, we do not need them.)
Back before even the last update/redesign there was an option to hide avatars completely (kind of similar to the existing option to hide signatures), which was something nice to have and use, if desired--would be nice if something like that was available again.
 
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@arn

Hey, is it possible to get sorting options in subthreads, to sort by latest reply, latest thread, most replied, etc.

And also, a "newest threads" like we had in the old version, where you could see all the new threads across all sub-forums (not like what I can only find on the new version, New Posts. Similar, but for threads)

Thanks!

New Threads is back. https://forums.macrumors.com/pages/new-threads/
 
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