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Nikon user here and.. That seems a very random list of prices? Why would anyone buy a used D50 nowadays? :D (there are newer, lighter, better models for similar prices out there?)
Well, I would rather get a D90 for $199, but I was trying to match the total.

And if you're on a budget, it's better to have a motor.
 
cool...but now I would like to bring more of the background in focus, how can I increase the f/ stop?

Oh wait...its not possible....









Apple released iOS 10.1 beta last week with a new "Portrait" mode on iPhone 7 Plus. The depth-of-field feature uses the smartphone's dual cameras and advanced machine learning to make the subject in the foreground sharp while creating an out-of-focus blur in the background, known as the bokeh effect.


Since then, several MacRumors readers have shared beautiful depth of field photos shot with iPhone 7 Plus. Many of the photos look like they were captured with a higher-end DSLR camera, which is impressive given how small the iPhone's cameras are. In many ways, the best camera truly is becoming the one you carry in your pocket.

MacRumors reader Bryan, for example, shared some photos he shot at the ArtPrize international art competition in Grand Rapids, Michigan this week. Each photo beautifully demonstrates Apple's artificial bokeh effect, achieved by combining two images from the wide-angle and telephoto lenses to create a depth map.

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The crowdsourced iPhone 7 Plus Photography topic in the MacRumors discussion forums has dozens of other great examples of both regular and depth of field photos, including this swimming pool portrait shared by reader erwheezy. Make sure to click the link ahead to read the full article with more examples.

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Article Link: MacRumors Readers Share Beautiful Depth-of-Field Photos Shot With iPhone 7 Plus
 
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I look forward to getting this not so much for the blur effect itself, but to give more flexibility with framing images when there are distracting objects in the background. I don't have to try to line up my subjects' heads to block the distracting sign or whatever in the background. Or at least it won't be quite the dealbreaker for the shot (or require Photoshopping which I'll never get around to).
 
Exactly what I said. I am guessing next year we will get it.

Unlikely, as bad as I want it it took 3 years to get optical image stabilization in the smaller phone. It'll be three years before the smaller phone gets two lenses. I "upgraded" to the plus just for this camera. It's not as bad as I thought it would be, size wise, we'll see once the newness wears off
 
I agree, these shots are excellent for an iPhone,...and that's what we should be judging by...I used to be a professional photographer,...I still have my full frame 5DmkII along with my trusted 50mm portrait lens,...I pull it out about 10-12 times per year to take pictures of my kids....now would I confuse photos from the two cameras? Probably not...am I impressed by these sample images from average users? Very much so...not because they are well framed, or not because they provide perfect professional style portrait shots, but because they are coming from the phone in my pocket...because with time, with the right light, we now can get the types of pictures we always felt we needed a big DSLR for...my photo library of my family is about 30,000 strong...I would say about 10% came from a DSLR...so if the 90% could start to get better from generation to generation of mobile phone,...then that makes me happy...


Thanks, very well said! I guess people easily become desensitized to technology. It's important to pause and reflect now and then on the power that resides in one's pants. You too, ladies, I'm referring to your iPhones!
 
Once again : Apple / iPhone does it right and enhances people' life.
before iphone 7 , most regular person dont even care about depth of field:brokeh.
The point is : it's not about if iphone 7+ Portrate mode is as good as a regular Dslr ... but yet it raises awareness thus the love/passion for capturing the loved moments in our lives..

Just enjoy and enrich your life with the new tool/iphone 7+ instead of comparing..conplaining ..;-)
 
Unlikely, as bad as I want it it took 3 years to get optical image stabilization in the smaller phone. It'll be three years before the smaller phone gets two lenses. I "upgraded" to the plus just for this camera. It's not as bad as I thought it would be, size wise, we'll see once the newness wears off

I'll be very surprised if the 4.7 incher ever gets dual camera modules for two reasons:

1. Apple have deemed smaller iDevices to be inferior to large iDevices.
2. In seeming contradiction to the first point, Apple believe thinness to be the mark of a premium product.

There is simply no space for an extra camera module in the smaller iPhone and historically Apple has always translated efficiency gains into thinness. They could totally dominate other brands if they translated efficiency gains into extra battery life or larger camera sensors, but instead we get thinner. It's so bad now that Samsung's flagship phone uses a 43% larger image sensor than the one in the iPhone!
 
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Yup. It's a great camera that meets the needs of many. And, it's always with you. Nothing wrong with that.

Most of my photography lately is with my iPhone, rather than my large cams.

That photo is amazing. Are you using a 6s Plus or a 7 Plus?
 
Yup. It's a great camera that meets the needs of many. And, it's always with you. Nothing wrong with that.

Most of my photography lately is with my iPhone, rather than my large cams.
Wonderful shot
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I think some technical aspects might be better. But that doesn't necessarily mean my photography will be better.

You've hit on one of the biggest things here.

Tech can only take you so far. Good photography requires an eye for the art of light.

Youve clearly got talent, and I bet you could make something enjoyable to view on a potato.

I just don't think software can purely reproduce what. Good photographer can manage with the real manipulation of light.

All of these software bokeh affects, old and new, just feel fake.they just don't feel natural.
 
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I think some technical aspects might be better. But that doesn't necessarily mean my photography will be better.

And your most likely correct, as I have no knowledge about photography. But in any case, I always appreciate a photo that was taken with an iPhone and it looks like a painted canvass. Keep up the good work.
 
That it's an amazing camera for a phone? No one is comparing it to a DSLR except for random DSLR snobs that feel insecure for some random reason.
actually..I think that those listing all their devices as if a proud mommy appear to be the INSECURE snobs...
 
I really need to get with it. I've had my 7+ for a week now and haven't taken any pictures yet. So sad.

Same here. I bought it explicitly for taking photos, but haven't really played with it.
And to be honest, I love the new SE as the plus is not a fun gadget to hold or carry around. Love the 7 plus but I hope they keep updating the 4" phone. It's the best all around iPhone.

If I was going to rate the best smartphone of 2016, the SE would be #1 hands down. Best value, best usability, and the number one reason is it runs iOS. iOS 10is the best operating system bar none. Even without the exploding batteries, the note 7 is still running Android. There is nothing Samsung can do about that. And that's huge.
Reviewers are always quick to gloss over the fact that Android is just junk compared to iOS.
 
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Well I think it is VERY impressive that a tiny camera on a phone can even do this!

I just want to but in that this isn't really the camera itself doing this.

This is software blur layer being done as post processing. Similar in effect to photoshop vs natural data from the sensor.

I was expecting to see far more accuracy out of the iPhone 7 implementation because of the "depth matching"

But so far I am not seeing the accuracy I expected. I'm seeing similar results to the existing software blur post processing that's been available on a few phones already.

The camera takes some great shots, but so far the imitation blur and bokeh is a let down and looks as unnatural to me as androids previous implementation
 
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New iPhone 7: $649

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New Passport: $329
Used D50: $80
Used 18-200: $250
I did not realize you actually need the Plus, so let's do this more properly:

New iPhone 7 Plus: $769

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New Passport: $329
Used D90: $199
Used 18-200: $250
 
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