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I'd be ****ing pissed if I paid for a developer ticket and got an hour of that BS.


I'm so pissed right now I can't see right.

An PPC Intel chip I could have lived with, but an x86?
 
brap said:
Look around the internet. I dunno, google 'warez Windows XP'. You'll find thousands of hits, hundreds of hacked, cracked versions of the OS.

Crackers KNOW x86. Firmware is hardly a safety net. It will happen, and it'll happen soon. PC fans -- the Anti-Apple crowd -- have a clear cut goal. I'd not be urprised if there wasn't some widespread collusion in the underground to get this done.

OS X, compiled for x86, on a cheap, off-the-shelf box is a very, very VERY juicy prize.

And I will clap when they do it !!! Cheap Apples for everybody
 
mellow2bits said:
You missed the Rosetta stone: enables original Mac programs to run on Mactel

I did miss that, as I said its all going so fast and I can barely keep up.

Just read the Apple announcment too and saw this:
Developer Transition Kit, consisting of an Intel-based Mac development system along with preview versions of Apple’s software, which will allow developers to prepare versions of their applications which will run on both PowerPC and Intel-based Macs.
So all is not completely lost (as you stated mellow2bits) but it still boggles me....oh well, a good sleep tonight and then I'll read the whole damn thread tomorrow morning :D
 
brap said:
Look around the internet. I dunno, google 'warez Windows XP'. You'll find thousands of hits, hundreds of hacked, cracked versions of the OS.

Crackers KNOW x86. Firmware is hardly a safety net. It will happen, and it'll happen soon. PC fans -- the Anti-Apple crowd -- have a clear cut goal. I'd not be urprised if there wasn't some widespread collusion in the underground to get this done.

And they know freeBSD also, but that hasn't allowed them to crack in OS X yet.

I have no fears about this transition. I have faith that Uncle Steve has it all figured out.

Those of you who bought a Mac just because it was "not Intel" are the ones who got screwed, but the rest of us who bought Macs due to the superior OS are still on board.
 
Phatpat said:
I seriously hope we aren't actually talking about using P4's. The Pentium M is an awesome processor, but the P4? It takes more power at idle than the fastest AMD dual core cpu at full load.

Which is probably why it's the portables and Mini rumoured to get the chips first - they'll get the Pentium M. The PowerMacs aren't scheduled to go Intel until second half of 2007 - when presumably the newer intel chips that aren't based on the desktop P4 are available...
 
0092762 said:
Can you run windows on MS's OWN XBOX? NO!
It's protected by all sorts of things not to mentioned specialized hardware (apple specific mobo manufactured by intel) that windows won't have drivers for.
So don't worry, this is a change for good...It will bring more people to macosX
Looks like the PPC970 is dead, it was just too complex and nobody but Apple really used it.

IBM thought it would take business away from the G4, and it didn't.

Freescale probably also was giving Apple problems with the next version of the G4.

Didn't want to swallow this just because it was published in CNet ... especially since it was contrary to years of normal Apple business.

Guess Apple is taking the biggest gamble of their lives since they tried clones.

It'll either work, or not.

But Apple is also in a position to survive now even if their hardware sales collapse completely.
 
emw said:
In other news, Chicken Little reports the sky is falling. :rolleyes:
3) If OS X becomes available on just any old x86 box, MS will be pissed, naturally, but I think that opens Apple up to truly grow the value portion of their business - software. Yeah, the hardware's cool, and they'll continue to build it for some time to come, but how many people would love to buy a cheap box but still be able to run a prime-time OS on it? I just hope they don't become another Microsoft.

hear hear!! :D
 
no one like's a bad apple

feel like i just been headbutted


so are they are saying the Mac Mini will go 3.6GHz next year ? where will that leave the Powermac then ?
 
James Philp said:
My guess is Leopard will be a build of tiger that will enable optimization of OS X for intel machines. No new major features. Hence the 12 month time, not longer.

From the sound of the demo, it sounded like it was more or less there for Tiger. I'm sure Leopard (my favourite cat ;) ) will be a whole lot more than just Tiger rehashed - let's face it, they've got to get Spotlight 2.0 up and running with Boolean expressions for a start... :p
 
emw said:
In other news, Chicken Little reports the sky is falling. :rolleyes:

Why does everyone think this is such a horrible thing? The more I consider it, the more I like it. Why?

1) I trust Steve. At least to a point. He's done a good job guiding Apple so far, and I know he wouldn't make this move without significant forethought.

2) If OS X becomes available to run on any x86 box, it will be by planning. Sure, hacks may come out, but I think Apple has thought a lot of this through and will make it either difficult and/or expensive to do, therefore discouraging the general public from doing it themselves.

3) If OS X becomes available on just any old x86 box, MS will be pissed, naturally, but I think that opens Apple up to truly grow the value portion of their business - software. Yeah, the hardware's cool, and they'll continue to build it for some time to come, but how many people would love to buy a cheap box but still be able to run a prime-time OS on it? I just hope they don't become another Microsoft.

I understand what you are saying but I don't see it that way...it will be Apple hardware only.....me think
 
I would be able to run windows on these new x86 machines, right? That'd be very usefull, if I could boot into windows to do what I need to then get back out and into OSX... or if we recall that talk of running two OSes at once, yeah, this sounds good to me.

Surely they're going with intel because they can produce more chips?
 
Guess Apple is taking the biggest gamble of their lives since they tried clones.

I dunno, maybe I'm just dense but I'm reading this thread and some of you have tried explaining it to me, but i still dont frigging see why this is a gamble. I mean, MACS will still be proprietary hardware running OSX, so all of us will still buy it. If OSX runs on a PC - well, you might lose money on hardware but the net gain in software sales should overcome that right?

I still think I'm missing something. Or maybe I'm right and am making more sense than all of the naysayers. :p
 
anonymous161 said:
So now we have:
New iMac with a 3 ghz processor= $1299
New Dell with a 3 ghz processor= $599

How many consumers are going to think that OS X is worth $700, because that is what they are going to see.
At least before you couldn't make direct comparisons.

They are also going to see the incomparably stylish case designs :p
 
Well, at least Apple doesn't have to deal with those losers at IBM any more. After the fuss they made over getting the contract for the G5 they couldn't deliver.
 
emw said:
Why does everyone think this is such a horrible thing? The more I consider it, the more I like it. Why?

1) I trust Steve. At least to a point. He's done a good job guiding Apple so far, and I know he wouldn't make this move without significant forethought.

i agree, but in all honesty, i was expecting SJ to step down / retire today. i dont know why; i just felt it was gonna happen. i'm glad he's staying and will see apple through the transition.

i still cant believe that he kept the keynote SHORTER than usual, when it was one of apples biggest announcements in their history..
 
whooleytoo said:
It's going to be an interesting year for Apple - "Wanna buy a Mac with the CPU we're not happy with?"

seriously, what great hardware updates in the pipeline was he speaking of? iBooks to 1.5 GHz? ummm... ok.
 
How then are they going to keep info like this on their website

Fastest Bus in the West
The G5 features a scalable design that enables it to run at clock speeds up to 2.7GHz. But all the megahertz in the world wouldn’t mean squat if the G5 were stuck talking to the rest of the machine at the 167MHz bus speed of the Power Mac G4. That’s why each G5 features two unidirectional 32-bit data paths: one traveling into the processor and one traveling from the processor, unlike previous designs. Its frontside bus works at speeds up to 1.35GHz for an astounding 10.8GBps of total bandwidth. That makes it over 280MHz faster than even the latest Intel 925XE chipset, which sputters out at 1066MHz.

AND

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Steve Jobs Quote :)
"Yeah we know that x86 Intel processors are slower, but guess what? Next year we will be starting to move our computers to that slow x86 platform. Why you migh be saying? So that we can finally break that 3GHz marker. Never mind all the others features of PowerPC chips that make them more efficient and faster. This is a megahertz game. We need to win."
 
...Oh dead, alack the day!
Alack the day, Oh death - death oh death
O woe! O woeful, woeful, oweful day!
Most lamentable day, most woeful day
That ever, ever I did yet behold!
O day, O day, O day! O hateful day!
Never was seen so black a day as this.
O woeful day, O woeful day!



The Golden Age of Apple is dead.
 
anonymous161 said:
So now we have:
New iMac with a 3 ghz processor= $1299
New Dell with a 3 ghz processor= $599

How many consumers are going to think that OS X is worth $700, because that is what they are going to see.
At least before you couldn't make direct comparisons.

Actually, that is a very interesting point. With less of a difference between the hardware, the price difference is going to be all the more noticeable now. Apple's margins are really going to be squeezed.
 
evoluzione said:
i just hope the new Macs don't come with those gay "intel inside" stickers plastered all over them...

I LOVE that there are ZERO stickers on my PB, I mean..STICKERS, come on M$, FUC_ING STICKERS you have to be kidding! They don't exactly help the value appeal of the product, having chincy wannabe nice little squares adhered to the already crying-for-help plastic case....makes me want to just kick them all.

If a PB or PM or any Apple product comes out with "Intel Inside" I'll eat my foot, shove a live cat up my arse, and then divorce whomever my future wife may be (sorry honey :p ).
 
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