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Mac's work everywhere!
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Microsoft Vista = Epic Fail
Yup, the entire community (computer users) came to that realization on Day 1 of Windows Vista, oh and be lucky its SP1 for Vista. Before that, well lets say UAC hell was heaven on Earth compared to what driver/stability hell was.
Well, thats enough for today, time to go to sleep for me....
Things like this happen to me almost every day when I'm at school. Most people at my school use PCs and the extent of their mac knowledge is that the apple lights up on the back of the screen when you turn on the computer.
The worst was my CAD professor who, while he is very good at CAD, is extremely closed minded. He told us it was okay to use our personal laptops for school work, if we had a copy of AutoCAD to use(free from the school, pretty sweet).
So, I pulled out my MacBook one day in class and he noticed and approached me to "inform" me that I couldn't run AutoCAD on a mac. I tried to explain to him that I had WinXP installed on it and could run it natively and do anything a pc could do. He still continued to tell me that I could not possibly have installed Windows on my mac!
So I started up in Win XP via bootcamp and opened AutoCAD to show him. He actually looked a little scared when it worked. I don't think any more mac users will have problems with him.
The worst was my CAD professor who, while he is very good at CAD, is extremely closed minded. He told us it was okay to use our personal laptops for school work, if we had a copy of AutoCAD to use(free from the school, pretty sweet).
So, I pulled out my MacBook one day in class and he noticed and approached me to "inform" me that I couldn't run AutoCAD on a mac. I tried to explain to him that I had WinXP installed on it and could run it natively and do anything a pc could do. He still continued to tell me that I could not possibly have installed Windows on my mac!
So I started up in Win XP via bootcamp and opened AutoCAD to show him. He actually looked a little scared when it worked. I don't think any more mac users will have problems with him
.While I understand how defensive (**gasp**, me? defensive? never!) we can get. I think it's not so much as dealing with a "problem" as it is informing people that their preconceived misconceptions are wrong. So many things with the Mac have changed in the past 3-4 years with the switch to Intel, but most people don't know or don't care. Microsoft is even counting on these misconceptions with it's advertising campaign, but they're not true anymore. Being a jerk about it especially doesn't help us dispel these misconceptions (not that I'm accusing anyone, I'm just saying).
I had a job working at the Apple store for about 10 months, and it was one of the hardest things, trying to convince long-time PC users to switch. But once you show them how similar (and better) things are compared to Windows, it gets easier. Rather than being condescending, we ought to take the time to show people how awesome things can be on a Mac (or you can just show them the Shift+Expose trick with a ton of windows open).
I had a job working at the Apple store for about 10 months, and it was one of the hardest things, trying to convince long-time PC users to switch. But once you show them how similar (and better) things are compared to Windows, it gets easier. Rather than being condescending, we ought to take the time to show people how awesome things can be on a Mac (or you can just show them the Shift+Expose trick with a ton of windows open).
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I work in IT and I am soooo sick of hearing coworkers who have never touched a mac jab at mine trying to tell me its outdated, and its not compatible with anything, etc etc. So tiring to hear and so incorrect.
Funny how Mac machines run much more then Windows machines because *gasp* Macs can run windows!
It's great that we can use our Macs in so many places that we couldn't in the past, however, we have a long way to go before "Mac's work everywhere!", especially in the business world. There are tons of IE-only web apps and windows apps out there still in use. Sure, we can run Windows under Parallels or VMWare, but there are many windows business/engineering apps out there where the performance is too slow to be really productive when run under a VM unless one was using a Mac Pro perhaps. There is also bootcamp, but that is not really a good option in the business world many times unless you are okay with running windows all day long (why use a Mac then) because we have to use lots of these windows apps all day long and constantly rebooting is counterproductive.
I've found what works best for me, at work, is to use my Mac for as much as I can and to remote desktop into my work issued windows PC for everything else. Luckily, my IT department is forgiving enough to let me use my personal Macbook, as several of them use Macs themselves.
I've had lots of people come up to me and be surprised that I can use a Mac at work, especially when I actually do have Windows up in a VM or when I'm remote desktop'd into a windows PC. I just politely inform them as to the current state of Macs in general and how much we can do with them today.
I've found what works best for me, at work, is to use my Mac for as much as I can and to remote desktop into my work issued windows PC for everything else. Luckily, my IT department is forgiving enough to let me use my personal Macbook, as several of them use Macs themselves.
I've had lots of people come up to me and be surprised that I can use a Mac at work, especially when I actually do have Windows up in a VM or when I'm remote desktop'd into a windows PC. I just politely inform them as to the current state of Macs in general and how much we can do with them today.
i agree, i love my mac, i use it in my workspace for all that i can,
but we have some excel sheets that use VBA, so i have to use windows, (i tried NeoOffice, but the VBA Macros are deigned for windows excel)
i use the mac for inDesign, any web stuff, or text stuff.
i use both about 50/50
but with the excel an office, there is alot of incompatibility. mostly with VBA an different formatting.
Funny. That's one of the big reasons I need to use Windows at work... those excel vba macros. I really wish those things worked in Mac Office. Actually, what I really wish for is that the people I work with to stop relying on excel macros and excel spreadsheets so much! For what we're doing with them, there's no reason we need to be so tied to excel. It's kind of sad as to the number of people, that work for the company that I work for, that have become excel macro ninjas.
Actually, I cannot imagine this. I use Vista SP1 everyday, but the only time UAC is needed for me is using Task Manager (viewing all processes) and during the initial installation of a software. It does not pop every second and running a browser does not cause UAC. Seriously, exaggeration can only go so far before one looks like a fool and loses all credibility doing so.
Just think, you will be the same someday with your children and grandchildren talking about you in the same way.yeah i guess so
My 67 year old grandma just got her first pc with vista. Big mistake.
Everythings too complicated for her. Im going to go over and explain
This provides a wonderful interactive methodology for the user.
Just think, you will be the same someday with your children and grandchildren talking about you in the same way.
not me!! no i will be the "hip" cool grandpa! you watch! (*prays* oh god oh god oh god please dont let me be the nub)
This provides a wonderful interactive methodology for the user.
If your operating system didn't support TCP/IP and had a web browser as a standardized package in this day in age...
Yeah it's amazing how people expect "strange" operating systems not to be compliant with agreed upon standards that you're going to need.the guy sounded too arrogant to even know what those are!
hilarious! especially when those "strange" operating systems are trying to get a bigger market share and will normally have better standards/implementation then the OS that they follow and love!
Let's just say, you get there before you know it.
Time can pass very quickly, that much is certain. All the while technology will be evolving.
Believe it or not, that was a common reply in the early days.
I've actually seen people move away, as I would connect a LAN cable to a Mac, for fear of an explosion or whatever.
many people that use computers on a daily basis are still computer illiterate. They're knowledge on a computer is not much different then training a mouse to find cheese.
It's all just pattern recognition.
It's all just pattern recognition.
Obviously opening a program is exaggerated, but you can't deny that the simplest of tasks, like setting your graphics card the way you want, trying to access user settings, trying to install some driver, or even trying to join a wireless networks (yes it happens from time to time) prompts the UAC.
Ok, enough UAC talk before I sound like a scratched record.
No. See below.
I only need it when installing something or opening anything as admin.
I adjust my GPU without the hinderance of UAC (using a Radeon 4350) and I don't get it joining networks.
The only time I get a UAC warning is when I install something or opening something as admin. I disabled it though, because I need to run command prompt as admin a lot.
I use OS X more than Windows, but there are some things Windows is better at, like games and officey work and as of now, multi-media stuff like TV tuners and Blu-Ray.
Let's just say, you get there before you know it.
Time can pass very quickly, that much is certain. All the while technology will be evolving.
ive been away from the internet for a day (our home internet has decided to stop working, stupid ISP). i already feel old and outdated! so much news to catch up on!
So true... hmmmm, come to think of it. Some small things are different, and those are the things that make OS X unique and make people afraid of it.