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Safari blows on bookmark importation

- Hmmm, once it imports the set of IE bookmarks on the first launch, you can't reimport new ones, even from IE

- If you try and delete the bookmarks and reinstall the app, it doesn't work again - only one import per person i guess

- Not compatible with Mozilla bookmarks on import (and I'm not gonna drag and drop 1k bookmarks like it suggests in the help section)

- Looks good though and seems fast

- Tabbed browsing would be dope.
 
iMovie 3 not free, apparently

Steve said iMovie was free and availablie in iLife. But according to the Apple web site, iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3 are only available in the box set, not for free download.

Who's right, or did I misunderstand him?
 
Congratulations to Arn for his excellent rumour-gathering and to NewOrder for fanning the flames last night.

I'm starting to wonder why SJ didn't show off the 12" first? That way the extra features that the 17" has wouldn't have seemed to be 'missing' when we took a closer look at the 12". Although I'm sure he didn't say it had all the features of the 17" that was what I inferred from the way it was introduced. I suspect it was this that has created such a backlash against it here.

With regards to Safari I too am disapointed that it doesn't have tabbed browsing. I use tabs every day. They're great. It also seems a shame that Apple didn't embrace Chimera and help them out instead of going with KHTML (I'm a web developer and I've never heard of it - anyone want to fill us in?)

Otherwise I totally enjoyed the keynote, the software developments looked excellent.

I tell you what If I were into mountain sports or lived somewhere cold that Burton jacket would be so cool. (Okay, warm then.)

i_b_joshua
 
Maybe I missed something...

Will existing TiBook and iBook customers be able to get in on the 802.11g bandwagon?

I've held out on picking up any wireless things because I figured something like this would happen sooner or later. 802.11g or a I was expecting.

Can we buy airport cards for current ibooks? :confused:
 
Re: iMovie 3 not free, apparently

Originally posted by artistry
Steve said iMovie was free and availablie in iLife. But according to the Apple web site, iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3 are only available in the box set, not for free download.

Who's right, or did I misunderstand him?

I think they're not available until the 25th of January.

i_b_joshua
 
Re: Maybe I missed something...

Originally posted by Deltan
Will existing TiBook and iBook customers be able to get in on the 802.11g bandwagon?

I've held out on picking up any wireless things because I figured something like this would happen sooner or later. 802.11g or a I was expecting.

Can we buy airport cards for current ibooks? :confused:

No. Airport Extreme ready machines only.
Shame, I was thinking the same thing.

i_b_joshua
 
Confusion now...

Well, great!

Now I can't decide if it will be worth it to buy the 12" Powerbook over the 12" iBook. I have been intentionally waiting until after this MW to buy...

Do we expect the performance to justify the price?
 
Re: No i!

Originally posted by pyrotoaster
One thing that I really liked was the lack of items with "i" in the title.
In the sense, they reduced the number of iApps by three by turning iPhoto, iTunes, iMovie, and iDVD into one iLife package, as least for marketing and packaging purposes.
 
Re: Re: Maybe I missed something...

Originally posted by i_b_joshua


No. Airport Extreme ready machines only.
Shame, I was thinking the same thing.

i_b_joshua

Are you serious? Wow what a kick in the teeth from Apple. My ibook isn't that old, it's a 700Mhz Model and I can't even get 802.11g? gg Apple

:mad:
 
Originally posted by pyrotoaster
Did I mention Safari has a great UI?

It really does! The bookmarks are easy to use, and not having that stupid little bar at the bottom is really nice!

I miss the status bar - I use it to check where links take me and other things, and for web development it's really useful. Plus I think it just needs something to close the window, aesthetically speaking ;) It looks like everything's going to fall out of the bottom!

More seriously though, the status bar is where I look to see if a page has loaded. I don't like the progress bar in the address box - it seems counter-intuitive to me, and contradicts the OSX user inteface guidelines (try selecting the address while something's loading - can you tell the difference?)
 
Originally posted by paulwhannel
gus: it should be noted that iTunes, iMovie and iPhoto are still going to be available for free download, iDVD is simply being sold, as Jobs says, because it's too big to download. The other three free programs are simply in the package for convenience's sake.

iDVD has never been free. Tho i don't know how much it cost originally... they just tied things together, didn't change availability much...

pnw

Yes, I understood that. My point was that AP did not understand that. I was quoting an AP article which never states that those Apps are actually free. Thank you though. ;P

iDVD was free with all machines that had a Superdrive. The upgrade to iDVD 2 was 19.95 +shipping.

Regards,
Gus
 
Where can you connect to 802.11g now anyway?

I thought this was more of a move to make sure all new Apples are working on the most progressive industry standard. Are there really that many places you can connect that fast wirelessly now?
 
Next up..

First off, I praise Apple for thinking outside the box they've been in for the last two years. Second, I didn't buy the November Powerbook b/c of build quality issues that several of my friends have had (screws coming loose and the bottom falling off!) and the wicked tumble one guy had at the Powerpage.org with his new 1 Ghz. My Pismo has been dropped several times; one guy's Ti drops and cracks, with the battery falling out as soon as he picks it up! I also knew that it was time for a case revision anyways.
Although I always knew that an Apple tablet is not in the future (come on, you see Jobs on CNBC all the time being asked about that and he dogs/balks at the idea everytime), I still held out the hope for something much more.
Well, wow. I am surprised -- macrumors is usually very accurate every single time something like this happens, but when I checked in this morning before heading off to class, I had my doubts about a 17 in. PB. What would battery life be like?! How would you carry it?!?!
Alas, all of my fears have been put to rest!
I figure this will be a good birthday present for myself to get (late Feb.)!
I can't wait, I've been holding out for several years to squeeze out as much utility out of this Pismo as possible. I have the G4 Bluechip upgrade and if PowerLogix had their new G3 800 mhz upgrade (announced today) ready for purchase on their web site, I would have gotten that immediately!!!!! I'll be getting that anyways to have this as a backup machine. ; )

Here's what the products like down the road --
SOLID INFO:
WWDC: XServes updated
Special Event (Feb. 12): Updated iMacs (1 ghz NOT the 7457) and updated PowerMacs (dual 7457 G4 1.4 Ghz starting at dual 1 ghzs); iTunes 4 also released here

QUESTIONABLE, but what I'm certain about:
Summer Events: Bluetooth Mice and Keyboards released; lighted keyboards optional
Around October: Powerbook line updated to 7457 chipsets up to 1.4 Ghz with faster superdrives); iBooks get G4s up to 1 Ghz)
MWSF 2004: Economy picks up, New IBM 970 PowerMacs, starting at dual 1.7 Ghz, then single 1.8 and 2.0 ghz models with 3D display technology; DVDs will be at $1;
WWDC 2004: PowerBook line revision, IBM 970 1.7 Ghz; Convertible notebooks that turn into tablets on the fly, with a new suite of Apps designed for these applications (similar to Windows Journal but much better organized)


Well done Apple and welcome back!!
 
Did Apple check their own sites in Safari?

Apple's UK store doesn't seem to workin Safari!
The site's not working anyway (can't place an order, change my setails or anything) but that's true in other browsers too.
But images aren't loading in Safari and the pages look awful...

I'm liking Safari but this is a bit odd to me!

Features I miss: auto form filling, status bar and a splash screen as it loads ;)
 
Originally posted by artistry


I miss the status bar - I use it to check where links take me and other things, and for web development it's really useful.

Totally agree. However I think the 'progress bar' is ingenious.

i_b_joshua

PS
I lived in Brighton for a year until 18 months ago. Nice wee city.
 
Originally posted by i_b_joshua


Totally agree. However I think the 'progress bar' is ingenious.

i_b_joshua

PS
I lived in Brighton for a year until 18 months ago. Nice wee city.

Ha! :)

Just edited my original post to say I don't like the progress bar! Just goes to show you can't please everybody, can you ;) Oh well, that's the way it goes...

Just moved to Brighton - don't know anybody yet (most boring Christmas and New Year ever) but at least I'm learning JavaScript and ActionScript! It is a nice place but daunting for a newcomer!
 
Originally posted by chetwilliams
My prediction is that new iMacs/eMacs/PowerMacs will be released the week of January 20th to precede the 1/25 release of iLife. The new machines will ship with iLife preinstalled. I think the only reason they are waiting on releasing iLife is so that it will coincide with the release of the updated hardware (keeping in mind that the updated PowerBooks won't be available until around the same time or later).

Nope, Apple is offering a package where people who buy new Macs after today can get iLife when it's released for free. It's on the website. I think the 12" PowerBooks are going to be available about 10 days before iLife is released...

artistry: The status bar is still around, go to View > Show Status Bar. It gives the text displays during loading, the progress bar itself stays behind the URL bar. I'd be lost without the status bar.

Gus: Sorry, just wanted to make sure :)

Bigjohn: Have you tried selecting all of your Mozilla bookmarks and dragging them, all at once?
[edit: sorry i doubted you. this is not amusing, they should definitely have an "Import Favorites" feature, i mean netscape stores it in very simple HTML format... dunno how Safari stores it, it might just be simpler to go editing the files, then do a batch "find/replace" to fix the separator code. that's a lot of work tho...]

I haven't tried importing my Netscape bookmarks yet... i hope there's a simpler solution to be found...

:)
pnw
 
Originally posted by paulwhannel


artistry: The status bar is still around, go to View > Show Status Bar. It gives the text displays during loading, the progress bar itself stays behind the URL bar. I'd be lost without the status bar.

Ahem...

I wondered, who'd be the first to spot that one. Well done, that man. Rest of you - pay attention. :D
 
Originally posted by i_b_joshua


Totally agree. However I think the 'progress bar' is ingenious.

i_b_joshua

PS
I lived in Brighton for a year until 18 months ago. Nice wee city.

You can turn on the Status Bar in the View menu..
 
New Airport on older PBs

Originally posted by i_b_joshua


No. Airport Extreme ready machines only.
Shame, I was thinking the same thing.

i_b_joshua



This is on the UK Apple Store site - not for sale yet though.

At a Glance
The Belkin 54g Wireless Notebook Network Card provides you with networking speeds nearly five times faster than the current Wi-Fi (802.11b) standard. This Card uses the wireless 54g 2.4GHz standard to offer you the widest working range ? up to 1,800 feet ? and greater interoperability in mixed networking environments! 54g technology is backward compatible with the 802.11b Wi-Fi standard, so it allows you to implement faster wireless technologies in combination with existing 802.11b Wi-Fi networks. An added Turbo Mode feature isolates your network from 802.11b wireless clients and allows your network to transmit at the highest 54g data rate ? 54Mbps. Sets up with the ease and the simplicity of Plug-and-Play technology on any Macintosh laptop equipped with a 32-bit CardBus slot.

Specifications:
? Maximum distance at 54Mbps: 50M, maximum distance at 18Mbps: 150M
? Backward compatible with the 802.11b Wi-Fi networking standard.
? Security: 64/128-bit WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy)
? Antenna Type: Integrated
? LED Indicators: Power, Radio Activity
? Turbo Mode feature isolates your network from 802.11b wireless clients and allows your network to transmit at the highest 54g data rate ? 54Mbps
? Keeps laptop batteries running longer with advance, low-power consumption chipset
? Free 24-hour technical support
? Belkin Lifetime Warranty

System requirements
? Any PowerBook with a 32-bit CardBus slot
? Mac OS X v. 10.2 recommended
 
Re: iMovie 3 not free, apparently

Originally posted by artistry
Steve said iMovie was free and availablie in iLife. But according to the Apple web site, iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3 are only available in the box set, not for free download.

Who's right, or did I misunderstand him?

If you read the iLife press release it says "On January 25, iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3 will be available for free download at www.apple.com." It's just not stated on the iLife page.
 
Warning, hype will wear off soon...

... and that spinning box you saw on KeyNote? Yeah... it's just a spinning box. That's been every OpenGL example program since... forever. It isn't innovation.

Chimera is still better than Safari. (Death to the death of tabbed browsing!) Btw, I *hate* brushed metal. Why invest so much money to create the Aqua look and then use brushed metal??? If I am going to use a web browser EVERY DAY, I sure as hell want it to look like my other windows. First chance I get, I'm nib-hacking.

I love apple, but when the glow of Steve's oddly luminescent (yet colorless) turtleneck dies down, these little bits of "innovation" are just that... hype.

You want to flame me? Go ahead, but my G4 isn't getting any faster.

- RMG

P.S. The snowboarding jacket looks cool... maybe I'll steal one... next season... 'cuz I sure as hell cant afford it :)

(Ugh. I forgot to mention. Now my mom is telling me what browser to use... after using IE for so long. She's telling me about searching with google... I mention tabbed browsing and she says "whuzzat?")
 
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