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MacWorld Expo!

The keys are laser-cut, which is probaby why the font is different, and the letters are in the middle of the keys for aesthetic reasons i'd imagine. looks better to have them centered.

I've only had one bug with safari so far, it doesn't always handle mailto: tags correctly-- it seems to send the request to Mail without sending the address with it. Not a huge deal...

The 12" powerbook never claimed to have light-up keys. What i want to know is whether or not this feature will eventually make it to the 15" models. Along with the new antennas, and the aluminum shell, etc etc...

BTW, my congrats to arn as well, i didn't give that rumor much thought, it was a total surprise.

I think these updates can tide us over into at least the summer, before sales start to drag again, and by all reports Q3 will bring new processors... new updates to the iMac and iBook (and perhaps tower and emac) should help to keep things above water until then... i have a feeling we'll see G4 ibooks in the very near future...

:)
pnw
 
They're getting it wrong already...

Jobs also showed off a new suite of software, iLife. The package of programs, some of which used to come as free downloads, will be bundled together for $49 beginning Jan. 25.

iLife includes updates of the popular iPhoto, iMovie, iTunes and iDVD programs, bundling them together so they interact. That means creative users can e-mail home videos with their favorite music playing in the background, or integrate still photos into video projects.

iLife is a cornerstone of Apple's attempt to turn the home computer into a center of entertainment and creativity.

Apple executives hope iLife will boost market share of the Macintosh operating system, particularly the newest Mac OS X, and entice customers to switch from personal computers using Microsoft Windows.

Less than 5 percent of computer users have the Macintosh operating system. Although many users praise Macintosh for its stability, programmers and engineers often develop software and hardware to run exclusively on Windows computers because of its wider reach.

Alan Promisel, a research analyst for Framingham, Mass.-based IDC, praised iLife's $49 price tag, noting that Apple is one of the few companies able to impose fees on previously free products without a major customer revolt.

But he doubted iLife could even being to reverse Windows' momentum.

"It's another source of revenue for them, and it does position the company in the top tier of multimedia applications in one package on a computer," Promisel said. "But without a lynchpin that causes people to switch to a Mac, I'm not sure it will really increase its market share."

I hate AP.

Regards,
Gus
 
Originally posted by Head Wound


Its about time! Ive been waiting for someone to call them AluBooks!
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I personally prefer "AlumaBooks" ... rolls off the tongue, and nicely alludes to the most useful feature, the "illumination" of the keyboard ...

Sounds better than "Aluminium Books", no offense to the Brits in the audience ... :)
 
No i!

What a great keynote!

One thing that I really liked was the lack of items with "i" in the title.
It works really well for the key iApps, and small things like iCal and iSync, but I think we would all be a little pissed if Apple had called Safari anything with "i" in the name.

Although Safari is a strange name...
Anyway, I'm using Safari right now, and I love it. I miss Chimera's tabbed browsing, but I'm loving everything else about this thing.
For those who don't believe Steve, it really is faster, and way better than Internet Explorer.

Way to go Apple! :D
 
Well, it appears you can't use aiport extreme with an iBook. I wasn't even able to access the "old" card on apple's site.

I hope they drop the price on the airport card for the iBook.
 
Personally, I bought the 1 GHz 15" about two months back and aside from the $200 price break, my decision certainly would not have changed today!

The 12" is awesome. Kudos to Apple for a full featured (albeit with loose ends -- no DVI, no PCMCIA, and no cache) sub-notebook with a SuperDrive.

However, the 17" to me is just plain awkward. The keyboard is sweet and integrated bluetooth is sweet but... lets face it, the thing is gigantic. The 15" hit my sweet spot as far as size was concerned, it fits in a backpack, its not too heavy. The 17" however is 2 inches wider and an inch deeper, which is enormous. I feel its a loss-leader so Apple can brag about how they have the biggest notebook screen on the market. The 12" is the clear innovation today, and shows that the iBook is not getting a G4 until Apple puts something else in the PowerBook... which should be just in time for me to sell this one :-D

Apple's switch to NVidia however... the 64 meg 440 is no better than the 64 meg 9000... its kind of all a wash. Plus, the 17" has a clear battery issue, as the 15" off the bat has a better battery and clearly uses less power.

Give Apple six months and the 15" will get a revision just like everything else. But at least I'm happy with what I got.

Just my 2 cents as always...
 
Did I mention Safari has a great UI?

It really does! The bookmarks are easy to use, and not having that stupid little bar at the bottom is really nice!
 
Safari

By the way, has anybody noticed that Safari really is much better with font smoothing? Go check out some really small text in it, vs. Chimera or IE. Nice.
 
Re: Re: SAFARI

Originally posted by paulwhannel


Oh give it up... Apple's never made a web browser before, and it's amazingly well-featured, simple, and compatible. Not *that* many people use tabbed browsing, i'm happy to get it now and see tabbed browsing come in an update, rather than the whole thing be delayed until they could get THAT mess sorted out...

IE and Netscape are officially off my dock... yay!

:)
pnw
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Actually, Apple *did* make a browser a few years back (in the OpenDoc days) called "CyberDog". Still the best browser name ever, IMHO. Unfortunately, the browser sucked, at least on the hardware I was running at the time - LC475 25MHz/8MB RAM/160MB HD.

Gather 'round now, kids. I remember, in my pre-475 days, lusting after a straight-up LC. They had COLOUR DISPLAYS! And it was so exciting when I found a *4x* CD-ROM drive for my 475 for *only* US$335

And I like to tell myself that I'm not even that old!

:)

-spikeovksy
 
gus: it should be noted that iTunes, iMovie and iPhoto are still going to be available for free download, iDVD is simply being sold, as Jobs says, because it's too big to download. The other three free programs are simply in the package for convenience's sake.

iDVD has never been free. Tho i don't know how much it cost originally... they just tied things together, didn't change availability much...

edit: Yes i do remember cyberdog, but it's almost in a different class, it's not a modern browser by today's standards. But i stand corrected, they have made a browser. My point was that they didn't have a previous version to start from, like other companies, but rather had to start from scratch. Safari is an amazing first-run of a beta browser.

:)
pnw
 
Originally posted by weinmatt
Personally, I bought the 1 GHz 15" about two months back and aside from the $200 price break, my decision certainly would not have changed today!
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yeah, me too. Actually, i prefer spending that extra $200 a month ago, and still being able to boot into OS9 (my scanner drivers haven't been updated by Epson yet- i have to scan in OS9). Plus, bluetooth is only like 50 bucks as a USB add on. All in all, the update didn't cause much anger amongst those who just bought the TiBook last month. That's saying something.

I thought the jabs at Quark were pretty funny, but the body shots to Microsquash were hilarious. EAT THAT, POWERPOINT/IE!!!
 
Originally posted by paulwhannel
i have a feeling we'll see G4 ibooks in the very near future...

:)
pnw
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I think this IS Apple's answer to a G4 iBook from what I see. I think Apple would be smart to leave the G3 iBook as it is and lower the price some more, maybe stick a 1Ghz in it next time around. If they do not lower the prices I think the new Powerbook 12" will kill the iBook sales.

There should be no more I want a G4 iBook whining on here anymore!!!

Will we ever see new iMacs and eMacs? or are they going to make the current models hold on until summer???

Safari is good and quite speedy, but I won't be dumping IE until it works as good loading all different types of pages. Every browser I have ever tried, although faster then IE, has had some issues with certain sites. IE might be slow, but it works with everything.

Keynote is exciting and nice to see.

I still think an iBook 1Ghz Sahara would have this new 12" Powerbook for lunch, but that is just my opinion. Will they ever make it now? Probably not.
 
Originally posted by Abercrombieboy
I think this IS Apple's answer to a G4 iBook from what I see. I think Apple would be smart to leave the G3 iBook as it is and lower the price some more, maybe stick a 1Ghz in it next time around. If they do not lower the prices I think the new Powerbook 12" will kill the iBook sales.
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True, the 12" did blur the lines between the two models, but Apple's certainly going to keep the iBook around, and i think while we wait for the next-generation processor, Apple's going to top out their existing equipment. That way, they can impliment much faster G5's in the next round of updates... Tho of course they might want to bump the iMac to 1.25 and iBook to 1GHz, while moving the tower and then Powerbook to G5. but who knows? i know we've been looking at iBooks a lot lately (almost bought one last night), but i'm gonna try and convince the husband to go with this now... if he insists on getting a laptop, that is...

:)
pnw
 
Re: Re: Re: SAFARI

Originally posted by spikeovsky

Gather 'round now, kids. I remember, in my pre-475 days, lusting after a straight-up LC. They had COLOUR DISPLAYS! And it was so exciting when I found a *4x* CD-ROM drive for my 475 for *only* US$335

And I like to tell myself that I'm not even that old!

-spikeovksy
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And I remember when the $4000 8088 I have and use was new... And *I'm* not that old!

I was kind of hoping for iMac updates, but the 12" PB might have changed my mind. I will probably wait until they start shipping and see what people say about them.

As someone who uses Powerpoint on both PC's and Mac's, I can not wait to get my hands on Keynote!!!!!!! I am not particularry fond of the OS9 version of Powerpoint (don't have OSX) and Office XP puts features in weird places...

Wow! These posts are coming faster than I can read them!!!!!!
 
MWSF...

I am very happy with what happened at MacWorld today. I love the new Powerbook, too. I was waiting until after the expo to buy an iPod, because I was kind of hoping for price drops. But, even though the price didn't drop, I am still going to buy one, and I can't wait!
 
More great Safari fun!

I just discovered that in Safari, your toolbar bookmarks are automatically assigned a keyboard shortcut! :)
The first site is apple-1, the second is apple-2, and so on...

Safari is really cool, I just want it to have tabbed browsing!
 
Safari Icons

Great Keynote!
One thing about safari tho-those little icons in the address bar don't carry over into the Dock, so I still just end up with a bunch of springboard icons!
 
Originally posted by Abercrombieboy


Will we ever see new iMacs and eMacs? or are they going to make the current models hold on until summer???
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My prediction is that new iMacs/eMacs/PowerMacs will be released the week of January 20th to precede the 1/25 release of iLife. The new machines will ship with iLife preinstalled. I think the only reason they are waiting on releasing iLife is so that it will coincide with the release of the updated hardware (keeping in mind that the updated PowerBooks won't be available until around the same time or later).
 
A confused offering

Hey I remember lusting after a hard disk when I ran everything from two floppies on an Atari way back when! Then when i got one - 120Mb, it was the ****!

Concerning the laptops: no DVI is the biggest letdown of the 12" - I was set to buy one along with a 17" screen to get the best of size and portability, but it seems Apple doesn't want this. Then the 17" PB, what the hell are you gonna plug that into other than a 22/23" for another several grand? So that issue is screwed. Then there's the useless FireWire 800 with nothing to plug into. Then on the 12" PB (that better be a real PB design and not a paint job on the iBook; it must be, if they say it's the smallest ever, smaller than the Duo, etc) - as someone pointed out without the L3 cache you get sound issues; yet they include a line-in. This is a very confused laptop offering from a user standpoint, but makes great sense from Apples perspective as a lot of people will buy the AlumiBook (read what you will into that name) over the real iBook and so they'll make a bundle, while the 17" will be great for their image.

My biggest qualm: where is AAC? I'm at crisis point here in that I can't rip another CD (been chucking stuff for months, now I'm down to the un-chuckable music) until a smaller format/larger iPod comes along. I was really hoping for AAC, so PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE STEVE! We now know you read these, so in the next month give us AAC!

In closing, despite what I've said above, I hugely enjoyed the keynote: Steve's speaking is great, no lengthy talks by developers, AlumiBook may look better in the 'flesh' than onscreen, Sahari is gonna be great (hell it is, but moreso) once it gets rolling, the other apps are great.

Here's to Apple Office a couple of years down the line, and a tiny PB like this one but with L3 cache and DVI (they'd have my order by now if it weren't for this - why, Apple, why?!).
 
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Now, if we can manage a new and less expensive display line in the next 4-6 weeks, I'll be happy. And I'm another who just purchased a TiBook 867 Combo and doesn't feel shortchanged. Well, not nearly as much as when I browsed to the 17" iMac on my shiny new 15"...

Good show, well-delivered presentation.
 
Good thought...

Originally posted by chetwilliams

My prediction is that new iMacs/eMacs/PowerMacs will be released the week of January 20th to precede the 1/25 release of iLife. The new machines will ship with iLife preinstalled. I think the only reason they are waiting on releasing iLife is so that it will coincide with the release of the updated hardware (keeping in mind that the updated PowerBooks won't be available until around the same time or later).
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That sounds about right, good call!
We know new iMacs and eMacs will come soon, but right around the release of iLife sounds just right.
Although it might be a few days afterwards, instead of before.
 
What I'm somewhat surprised about is how the 15" TiPBs weren't upgraded to include built-in Bluetooth, AirPort Extreme, FireWire 800 and DDR RAM.

As for the 12" PowerBook not having a L3 cache, does it have a L2 cache? If so, how much? Remember the 800MHz iBook doesn't have a L3 cache either, only L2.
 
Imalave

"When you're the underdog, you have to go for as many open standards as possible, whereas the 800-lb. gorilla's strategy (MS) is to create as many propietary 'standards" as possible'...Nice


Tom800

"Then there's the useless FireWire 800 with nothing to plug into."

I believe they HAD to ANNOUCE this feature...We'll see peripherals that compliment soon enough.....

MY question is DOES DVD3 support 3rd party BURNERS? I didn't see any mention in the specs, but I keep hearing people say NOW they'll invest in a BURNER...


BTW, isn't there alot of NOOBS here that are kinda negative from the first post !...Anyways, IT was a great show.....The browser will get better, let's just "mail" APPLE with criticism_not constructive bitching.....Just relax.
 
Originally posted by chewbaccapits


MY question is DOES DVD3 support 3rd party BURNERS? I didn't see any mention in the specs, but I keep hearing people say NOW they'll invest in a BURNER...
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No, it does not support third party burners. the website says that it is for iMacs, eMacs and Powerbooks equipped with Superdrives.

Maybe next time.
 
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