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Macworld San Francisco 2007 Rumor Wrapup: Winners and Losers
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Did Apple Spread False Information?
...or are there more iPhones coming?
Perhaps the next iPods will also have phones as an option, where you just slide in your sim card and it's good to go.
It'd be a great cover up for Steve to say that they spread false information about decoy phones, only to release different phones at a later date.
Anyone on board with this idea?
...or are there more iPhones coming?
Perhaps the next iPods will also have phones as an option, where you just slide in your sim card and it's good to go.
It'd be a great cover up for Steve to say that they spread false information about decoy phones, only to release different phones at a later date.
Anyone on board with this idea?
Once again, the big winner in the rumorfest is the Wall Street Journal, contributing to my theory that they are Apple's designated recipient of official leaks.
No mention of the displays
My hope is that these will be released like the new Airport did.
Been waiting for nearly 6 months now since I got my new Mac Pro...
My hope is that these will be released like the new Airport did.
Been waiting for nearly 6 months now since I got my new Mac Pro...
ultra-thin macbook pro?
I would be very intrigued by an ultra-thin machine which used those nifty new 32 gig compact flash hard disks instead of a traditional laptop drive. I could see a high performance feature like that being a big factor in Apple charging $1700 for a 12" machine.
Overall I found Macworld to be an interesting but uneventful start. The iPhone is pretty but needs to become compatible with applications I use in the office before I would carry a phone that large. Right now my trashbox office PDA has a touch screen phone that I can't dial without staring at it so I'm hesitant to cancel my personal cell just because I'm an Apple fan.
I would be very intrigued by an ultra-thin machine which used those nifty new 32 gig compact flash hard disks instead of a traditional laptop drive. I could see a high performance feature like that being a big factor in Apple charging $1700 for a 12" machine.
Overall I found Macworld to be an interesting but uneventful start. The iPhone is pretty but needs to become compatible with applications I use in the office before I would carry a phone that large. Right now my trashbox office PDA has a touch screen phone that I can't dial without staring at it so I'm hesitant to cancel my personal cell just because I'm an Apple fan.
Equivalents? I'd be hard pressed to find free, built-in Windows apps that are equivalents.
Windows XP's (disclaimer: I haven't yet seen Vista) built-in Photo Preview functionality is rather primitive compared to iPhoto. Windows Movie Maker is similarly simplistic. I don't think there is a Web-publishing app like iWeb built into XP; there might be one in Vista.
However, I can definitively say that there is nothing built into XP like GarageBand. Nothing. At best, there may be one General MIDI synth DLL, but its sounds are somewhat dull and static (even though the sound set is from the usually superlative Roland GS library), it's up to the user to find some sequencing program to harness it, and there is no changing the sounds themselves. Someone looking for GarageBand-level functionality would have to purchase something like Cubase or Cakewalk. I have Cakewalk Sonar 5 myself, and it cost me considerably more than what some people pay for entry-level PCs nowadays-- and it only does music/audio composition and recording.
Isn't videoconferencing practical now on browser based servises? You know, with postage stamp size images.
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iTunes name
Does anyone else think it's time to rename iTunes? It already plays movies and syncs photos, but now it's going to sync your contacts, bookmarks, and everything the iPhone needs to sync. If iPhone also syncs PDFs and Office documents, it will do those, too.
I think this could be part of the delay in iLife.
I kind of like where it's going, but it almost replaces the Finder. Eventually it seems like everything is going to go through iTunes at some point. I'm not sure what they can do to sort this out. Most likely they would just rename iTunes (but then they lose the branding), but they could also make a new "iSync" app for Mac and Windows. Anyone have any ideas?
Does anyone else think it's time to rename iTunes? It already plays movies and syncs photos, but now it's going to sync your contacts, bookmarks, and everything the iPhone needs to sync. If iPhone also syncs PDFs and Office documents, it will do those, too.
I think this could be part of the delay in iLife.
I kind of like where it's going, but it almost replaces the Finder. Eventually it seems like everything is going to go through iTunes at some point. I'm not sure what they can do to sort this out. Most likely they would just rename iTunes (but then they lose the branding), but they could also make a new "iSync" app for Mac and Windows. Anyone have any ideas?
There's a Windows equivalents of iLife apps thread about this. When iLife '07 is out, we'll need to update that discussion.
My girlfriend and i would really like to see that. i hope that the harddrive isn't 32 gb though. Maybe they could come up with one that was twice or (preferrably) three times that size. 32 GB is my girlfriends photo collection. We were thinking about upgrading the HDD in her 12"PB to 160GB if all else fails. That flash based HD is also a bit expensive. Like $600.
Understandably so, but man! Putting that into an ultra thin book is going to jack the price way above the 17inch MBP.Even if Apple puts a regular HDD in the machine, there is much more than can be shaved off of the MBP to get it down to 12 inches.
* ExpressCard 34 slot
* FireWire 800
* Dedicated ram slot (like the old 12"PB and iBooks did)
* Full size dvi port
After that, it's up to engineering it and making it look good and making all of the features practical. Not that I am an engineer
The thinbook is something Apple could integrate that touchscreen tech into and make easier to read stuff on such a small screen. Make the battery life better than all of the current books (anything better than 5 hours) and price it at $1700 like alfismoney said and it would be a machine worth buying.
I don't know if anyone else suggested this in a different thread but could it be possible that Apple has changed the look of Leopard's UI (something that has already been rumoured). It would then be logical that Apple did not release iLife at MWSF since that would reveal too much about Leopard's new UI. Am I making any sense?
Yup, 3G iPhone with secondary camera in front of phone for videoconferencing.
Not only that, but GPS built-in for even more Google Maps / Google Local integration goodness.
3G also implies the ability to download audio/video directly onto the phone, and also to view live streaming video or listen to streaming audio.
Speaking of Streaming Audio/Video, why not put Front Row/Apple TV type software directly on the iPhone? Why not put 802.11n on the iPhone, and then Macs can stream audio/video to the iPhone the same way they do to an Apple TV device?
Can't wait for 2008. I'm stuck with my Samsung Blackjack until December of 2008. (Not that the Blackjack is a bad phone. It's actually a fantastic device despite SJ's disparaging remarks).
I applaud Macrumors for the effort and will continue to visit.
I guess I'm a little disappointed.
In regards to this rumor roundup, and I don't think it's MacRumors fault mind you... I would be hard pressed to think that any of these tipsters truly had real information whatsoever. Through the last two years, I've read 100 different "insiders" claim they know the size of the iPhone. So it's not amazing to me that a person got it right (well, almost right) and coupled that "leak" with the fact that it was going to have metal casing (duh). We knew it would double as an iPod (even the crap Motorola model does that and syncs through iTunes!)... So where does it leave us? I'm not sure. But I know that we may not have many more real insiders left (I hope there are more to come).
Slightly off topic but this is how I saw this Macworld, let me know if anyone agrees (I already know lots will roll eyes with how unimpressed I am):
1. iPhone - 1000 insiders said this would be coming... I guess it's not a surprise anymore. Only for Cingular, NON-3g, 2mp camera. So many reasons that this product needs help.
2. iTV - Wow, already shown this. Now we see it again. Next.
3. Airport Extreme Base Station - About time to see 802.11n especially since we are supposed to be sending high def video to our TV. No gigabit ethernet port, so it's slower than the 802.11n... Not really surprised. Replaced a product that needed to be replaced and also is sub-par by tomorrow's standards. I'd rather they keep the price the same and give me the great Apple technology I have come to love.
4. No computer product, no new software, no non-obnoxiously rumored products released or talked about to surprise us.
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = Blah Macworld. Guess I'll put my hope in 2008.
I guess I'm a little disappointed.
In regards to this rumor roundup, and I don't think it's MacRumors fault mind you... I would be hard pressed to think that any of these tipsters truly had real information whatsoever. Through the last two years, I've read 100 different "insiders" claim they know the size of the iPhone. So it's not amazing to me that a person got it right (well, almost right) and coupled that "leak" with the fact that it was going to have metal casing (duh). We knew it would double as an iPod (even the crap Motorola model does that and syncs through iTunes!)... So where does it leave us? I'm not sure. But I know that we may not have many more real insiders left (I hope there are more to come).
Slightly off topic but this is how I saw this Macworld, let me know if anyone agrees (I already know lots will roll eyes with how unimpressed I am):
1. iPhone - 1000 insiders said this would be coming... I guess it's not a surprise anymore. Only for Cingular, NON-3g, 2mp camera. So many reasons that this product needs help.
2. iTV - Wow, already shown this. Now we see it again. Next.
3. Airport Extreme Base Station - About time to see 802.11n especially since we are supposed to be sending high def video to our TV. No gigabit ethernet port, so it's slower than the 802.11n... Not really surprised. Replaced a product that needed to be replaced and also is sub-par by tomorrow's standards. I'd rather they keep the price the same and give me the great Apple technology I have come to love.
4. No computer product, no new software, no non-obnoxiously rumored products released or talked about to surprise us.
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = Blah Macworld. Guess I'll put my hope in 2008.
Just as a show of hands...so to speak who thinks apple will have a "one more thing" type event? notice how steve didnt say it this year. this would lead me to believe that he will be introducing more products sometime between now and june. in that regard here is what I am hoping steve will introduce:
Full screen TRUE video iPod (with 100GB or 80GB HDDs) with a multi touch interface. (it will not have the same OS as the iPhone as not to cannibalize iPhone sales)
New Apple Cinema Displays with even higher contrast ratios and a iSight camera built in (hopefully with a higher resolution)
to go along with that Steve will release 10.5 as well as iWork/iLife (perhaps merged as a single product called iLife Complete?)
new Dual-Quad Core ProMacs with an LG hybrid HD-DVD/BD-ROM drive? (most likeley one or the other) with Nvidias 8800GTX or AMD X2800 XT (one can dream)
maybe new MacBook Pros?
Full screen TRUE video iPod (with 100GB or 80GB HDDs) with a multi touch interface. (it will not have the same OS as the iPhone as not to cannibalize iPhone sales)
New Apple Cinema Displays with even higher contrast ratios and a iSight camera built in (hopefully with a higher resolution)
to go along with that Steve will release 10.5 as well as iWork/iLife (perhaps merged as a single product called iLife Complete?)
new Dual-Quad Core ProMacs with an LG hybrid HD-DVD/BD-ROM drive? (most likeley one or the other) with Nvidias 8800GTX or AMD X2800 XT (one can dream)
maybe new MacBook Pros?
I'm so glad the iPhone is on the winners list.
I've been waiting for this for so long.
Everyone remember all of the pessimists in this forum...contradicting even the slightest hope that an iPhone would come out...boy am I happy they were wrong! I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL JUNE!!!
I've been waiting for this for so long.
Everyone remember all of the pessimists in this forum...contradicting even the slightest hope that an iPhone would come out...boy am I happy they were wrong! I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL JUNE!!!
I hear you!
At the end of the day, this is still just a phone and personally I'm not really that interested. I was really hoping for something new in the way of mac hardware and software as well as a demo on Leopard.
I'm sure the phone will sell just fine and Apple is actually overdue for an entry into this personal electronics market but I really really need a new mac pro and I want an octo core machine with updated displays.
Please Apple don't forget those that brought you to the big dance.
Now there's an idea. Perhaps the whispers about a new iMac form factor could also refer to a multi-touch screen. A 30" multi-touch iMac would rock! And the improvement would be even more significant for notebooks, upgrading from a small trackpad to a full screen for the ultimate in control.
With multi-touch technology, we could even see the beginning of the end of the mouse and the trackpad. Apple, one of the first companies to dispose of the floppy disc drive and the internal modem, may well be the first to dump the mouse (considering some of the mice Apple has come out with, some people may not consider this a great loss, but with a multi-touch screen, who needs 2 buttons?).
What's the innovation
I'm curious what people think about this idea. In what context would something like this make sense? Who would use it? I mean it's cool and everything, but how is it useful?
I'm curious what people think about this idea. In what context would something like this make sense? Who would use it? I mean it's cool and everything, but how is it useful?
here here!!
I'm just waiting to replace my 3G ipod too. You have to wonder though, on one hand they could release the WS video ipod early because they don't need FCC approval. On the other hand, an early release might cannabalize iPhone sales.
Instead of moving your mouse over a pad on your desk to move the cursor on the screen to an item you want to move, double-clicking on the item, and finally dragging it, simply touch your finger directly on what you want to move and drag your finger to where you want it to go. Which would you say is easier and more intuitive?
I just drug my finger across my powerbook's screen. It shook. Doesn't seem like a great setup. Plus I didn't like dragging my finger all the way across a screen. Seems like a necessary hassle.
Not to mention that you presented your question in a biased way...
I didn't think of it as biased. The simplest, most intuitive way of doing something on a computer is to do on the computer what most closely represents what you would be doing with your own hands. When you're using a mouse, what you're doing with your hand is a close approximation of what's happening on a screen, but it's not exactly the same. The difference between the two makes using a mouse more difficult and less intuitive. And there is the added frustration of having the mouse at the edge of a mousepad or surface and needing to pick it up and reposition it to finish what you wanted to do on the screen. You may not notice this with daily use of a mouse, because you get used to it, but if you pay attention to how often this happens, you might be surprised. Of course, it's even worse with a trackpad.
This is not to say that a multi-touch display would be superior to a mouse or stylus pad for all applications, but I can see where a multitouch screen could improve the user interface.
I agree. Rename it. Something.
Perhaps it should be called iLife
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if iPhoto appeared for Windows, but who knows..
ps. (Anyone notice that iTunes for Windows installs the "Apple Software Update", not the "iTunes Software Update". Why?)