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If apple did release new MacBooks tomorrow does anyone have an idea when they would be available for purchase? How long is the typical interval of time from when Apple announces a product to when it is actually available for purchase?
Apple's general M.O. is to have the products available at the time they are announced. The original iPhone announcement and the iPad were exceptions to the rule.

Financially, it is not in Apple's best interests to delay shipment of new products as it will tend to depress sales of its current models.

There are infrequent delays due to parts availability, but these are typically related to high-end models (e.g., 27" iMac shipped a little later than its brethren).
 
...from a business perspective - say that you're apple.... you can spend 2 or 3 million (easy) and participate at a macworld - an event at which you might be the namesake but not have control - or spend maybe 20% of that - at most - and get the type of media bang for your buck that we saw with the iPad announcement by renting Yerba Buena Center solo and controlling your message 100%.

you dodge the issue of why apple couldn't have simply scheduled its Yerba Buena Center space for the week OF MWSF rather than a week or two before, once it saw there was a product intro suitable for that time frame. You think IDG wouldn't have happily made the space available? You think the thousands who attend the meeting wouldn't have once more had their loyalty to apple justified?

the company would have gotten at a minimum the same exposure it got with its weeks-before event in the same space. and i think the customer enthusiasm can only reflect well on a product introduction.
 
It's tomorrow guys...

This is what 9to5mac said:"Although Apple won't officially be here, we've been invited to check out Apple's subsidiaries who have rented hotel space near Moscone to show their wares as well. "

Hmm if those won't be the new MBP models shown there, then I don't know...
 
To me, MacWorld Expo was a .MOV file on Apple's site with product announcements. And since they're not stopping with the keynotes and the Apple Media Events, to me, there will be no difference. As long as they keep brining out new products, everything is awesome.

I'm with you. Full disclosure: Yeah, I'm bummed apple dropped out. But the people who are complaining about how the meeting will be nothing without apple are people who:

1) never exploited the opportunity to see the latest and greatest products for the mac. At past MWSFs I've talked to developers, entrepreneurs, software writers, etc. It wasn't uncommon to visit a booth with questions about a product and end up talking to the project manager, whether it was a small new business or HP. That's "priceless", as the credit card ads say.

2) never took full advantage of the Users Conference and other educational opportunities. Pogue's always great. I've attended a multitude of sessions at the UC that have greatly extended my skills and enhanced my enjoyment of apple's products.

All of those things are scheduled this week, too. I'll be there. I think apple's making a PR mistake by dropping out. Maybe the company plans to let MW fade away and then start its own meetings for fans, with or without blockbuster product announcemtns depending on whether the timing's right for events that have to be planned far in advance. That would give them the same control they have over apps in the app store, over all the third party companies.
 
I'm with you. Full disclosure: Yeah, I'm bummed apple dropped out. But the people who are complaining about how the meeting will be nothing without apple are people who:

1) never exploited the opportunity to see the latest and greatest products for the mac. At past MWSFs I've talked to developers, entrepreneurs, software writers, etc. It wasn't uncommon to visit a booth with questions about a product and end up talking to the project manager, whether it was a small new business or HP. That's "priceless", as the credit card ads say.

2) never took full advantage of the Users Conference and other educational opportunities. Pogue's always great. I've attended a multitude of sessions at the UC that have greatly extended my skills and enhanced my enjoyment of apple's products.

All of those things are scheduled this week, too. I'll be there. I think apple's making a PR mistake by dropping out. Maybe the company plans to let MW fade away and then start its own meetings for fans, with or without blockbuster product announcemtns depending on whether the timing's right for events that have to be planned far in advance. That would give them the same control they have over apps in the app store, over all the third party companies.

Wrong, I haven't missed a Macworld in 9 years. I live right in the San Francisco Bay Area. I'm skipping this years show. Apple and Adobe have abandoned it. Yes, there are plenty of things to explore regarding the Mac, but Macworld isn't quite the same as it used to be.
 
I went the last three years and enjoyed the experience. I am skipping this year's event since Apple wont be there. Just not the same -even with a number of Macware providers being there. Too bad. I too want an updated MBP. I ordered my wife the 27 inch i7 last week and would love to add a new laptop into the mix for me.
 
Um what?

How in the world is anyone supposed to think you know what you're talking about when you can't even make any sense typing out that big wall of gibberish.

If there market share is so pathetic, how is it that they are closing in on Microsoft in terms of cash and have become the most valuable company in Silicon Valley? Market share doesn't mean a damn thing when they are still raking in money hand over fist. Market share also means nothing when you look at momentum, and Apples momentum since 2007 has been pure insanity. Their sales continue to skyrocket. Any of those companies you just named that are supposedly "better off" than Apple would absolutely KILL to be in Apples position. They would kill for a similar product line, high profits, and they would kill even more to have a brand name like Apple. Low volume/high margins has proven to work pretty well for them.

This seems to me to be a bit arrogant. I don't know, but I am guessing, that the the poster whose grammar is being criticized was not raised speaking English as his or her primary language. Congratulations to that person for learning another language and expressing their thoughts here. I understood the views expressed. In comparison, I took Spanish for 3 years in high school and college and I couldn't hope to post on a forum in Spanish. (As long as you went down the grammar-checking road, the way "Apples" is used, it is possessive, not plural.)
As far as discussing business models, that's opinion and preference. Obviously, Apple's (conjunction) doing well and Apple's (possessive) business model is working for them. As far as visual appeal, the various Apples' (plural possessive) designs are gorgeous. Still, I am sure that, were he to be asked, Steve Jobs would love to increase market share. I note that, when it is convenient, he proudly talks about the large market share iPods and iPhones command. This works with an enlarging array of products within the tech market. One might say that Mr. Jobs is not putting all of his apples (plural) in one basket.
 
Specifically what benefit did MacWorld provide that you can't get elsewhere?

you're kidding, right? I can't believe you've ever attended, to say something like that.

- you can play with Apple products at your local Apple store. Even if you don't have an Apple store nearby, it's still easier to get to te nearest one than to Moscone.

I'll grant you the point about traveling to SF, but it's not a shabby city to visit, is it! :) And I'll grant you you can try Apple products at apple stores, but what about the hundreds of products for Apple products?

You're ignoring the hundreds of hardware and software products available to handle and try out at MW. You can't do that in an apple store. Go to an apple store, select a (third party) software box, and ask them where you can try it out, see how it works. Hah! Or go to an apple store and ask to try out two or three different BT headsets. I did that, in Tampa, last month. They wouldn't get one out of a box! The closest i came to hands-on was the salesperson i was talking to telling me how he liked the one he had. No comparisons, no ability to try out the product. (Later a sales guy at an ATT store went to a backroom and got me one of the models so i could try it in the store, and i bought it, but after extended use the over-ear loop didn't work with my glasses; i returned it and got a second one, but i'm not satisfied with how it works. And these were the two models that fared best in online reviews. At MW i'd have been able to try them all and a hundred other products.) There's real value in that. So I'd have to say this part of your argument is simply wrong.

you can learn about third party products online better and easier than at a trade show. You can even download highly functional demos-- for free.

easier, yes. better? C'mon, Gasu, you've got to be kidding. Free online software demos are great. But you're going to say they're superior to the chance to talk with the software writers, maybe ask how to access that function you've been unable to find, or suggest a new feature in the next version, or even sit down in groups for training on software? You, and others here, are throwing out opinions that are simply unfounded. I suppose you'd argue all college classes should be taken online, too, because that's superior? ("better and easier"?) Even lab classes? Gimme a break! I'd have to say you're wrong here, too.

- if you really must attend a talk on Apple technologies, the developer's conference will provide better information and access.

You do know they're for different audiences, right? WWDC is a great opportunity for people with highly technical needs and interests. What about people who are interested as consumers, including the thousands who have attended past MWSFs each year?

And apart from that, what's a WWDC pass cost? What's that? Around $1,295? The MWSF 3-day user conference costs $195; admission to the trade show floor is $25 but there are plenty of free tickets available. Does WWDC require travel to a city other than one's home town? What? It's in San Francisco too? Why are you using it as an example, then? And what if you want to get training pertinent to your needs AND be able to see hundreds of products that enhance your apple computer ownership? So again, just wrong.

I don't care whether you want to go or not. I don't care whether you think it's useful or not. I just care--as in political discussions--that (harsh personal term deleted!) :) (not just you, there's a number of people on here blowing smoke; your points just provided a compact way to illustrate how flawed some of the arguments are) anyway, I don't think the discourse is served by people who think they can throw out whatever opinions they have, whether or not there's any foundation for them. So respond to the points i've made above, if you think i'm unfair or in error. I'll be interested to see what you can come up with.

peace.
 
Here's my little story about MacWorld and my experience with Apple & IDG.

My personal passion for Apple really started back in the very early 80's watching Guy Kawasaki and then years later a close friend Clent Richardson. Both were internal Apple evangelists who built the initial developer relationships and sold the idea that the Mac was a great platform to develop on. Year after year they worked hard to spread the gospel of the machine.

As a young boy I received an Apple II computer when I was in 6th grade. I quickly learned to program in BASIC and was recruited by my Jr. High School to teach the newly formed computer education department effective techniques for writing code, so they could pass along the information on to the students in class. I wrote two pieces of software that I submitted in contests and won two first place awards. Years later I went on through to college and attended USC and went directly into Retained Executive Search. While I did not pursue a career in programming, I've stayed up to date as much as I can as it's ingrained in my roots.

I've had the wonderful opportunity to work with Apple and Next Computer early on in my career, helping my father recruit several senior executive positions. Over the years, as a fly on the wall in the valley, it has been amazing watching talented people within the company grow, hit new highs, only to be personally degraded and then spring back and knock it out of the park. No matter how you look at it, Apple is a company for the ages. Steve Jobs and the the amazing company behind him, have taken us places we couldn't have imagined and the ride isn't over yet.

My firm has also had extremely close ties with the IDG Corporation over the years. We've completed many senior executive searches for the company and I have to say, there aren't many publishing corporations out there where the key members were as delightful and nice to deal with as this gang. Many to this day continue to be good friends and we've sprouted with them into different industries and different publishing organizations.

Where am I going with all of this, well I attended the very first MacWorld with my father years ago and, like many of you, I'm slightly worried about the future of the MacWorld show. Apple seems to be shying away from developer focus and it's a sign of concern for me. I'd like to see a resurgence from Evangelism and a push towards appreciation towards the developers, like they did in the early years of the company.

I know the current senior team at IDG has a great round-table of executives that should be able to reformat and push forward a caliber show in the years to come. I think we all agree that there needs to be a show for the developers and the mac audience to come together, get pumped up and talk about what and how they are going to be taking the products to the next level. In my opinion MacWorld should be able to bounce back and become stronger than ever. The Mac market is growing, Apples secondary consumer products are growing... MacWorld is the place for all these guys to get together and push each other to the next level of creativity, excitement and profitability.

I wish everyone attending the show a wonderful time. My best wishes go out to the developers putting forth the money & time to show their products. I hope it's a good investment for you! I'm looking with eager eyes to all the creative ideas and software that's coming to the platform.

I just had Achilles tendon surgery and my foot & ankle are in a cast, so I'll be scooting about on my knee-walker (which by the way is a great alternative to crutches, for anyone who is going to be in a similar situation.) Any of you developers out there see me scooting by, say hi. I'd love to chat and say hello.

- JW Ferneborg
The Ferneborg Group
http://www.execsearch.com
 
MPB Refresh?

After the Apple Store came back up this morning the "NEW" tags on the Macbooks, Mac Minis and iMacs has been removed.... Keeping my fingers crossed!
 
I'm a bit of an outsider in on this topic. I really enjoy Apple products, but am certainly not a "fanboy" by any stretch of the "word". I buy products I like and if those products are Apple great, if they're other manufacturers, so be it. I'm also not a long time Apple supporter. I'm a long time UNIX user that was lead to Apple with the release of OSX.

With that being said, as a business owner I've personally set up and paid for a booth at that convention center. It's not that much money even for a company such as mine with 8 employees let a long for a company like Apple. Yeah, they'd likely get a few booths, but we're not talking a lot of cash (a lot is used in a relative sense here). There's a lot more to this decision than cost.

I too believe it comes down to arrogance. Yes, as a company they don't NEED to be there. However if it's a large event made up almost entirely of your customers it's a "cool" gesture to attend. Even if you're not keynote speaking. Heck, I own a marketing company and I'll booth right next to Google. All similar companies to my own are a tiny fraction of what Google is but they still show up in marketing conventions. It's not like their objective to boothing at a show is to spread the word out of who they are and what they do like the rest of us... they're among their customers.

I'm not saying they should attend every single show that has to do with Mac's... but this is a big show. Do it out of respect for your customers. Job's assistant could probably pay the $10k for the booth out of petty cash and not even pull from their marketing budget. They could call it the customer appreciation booth.

Mike
 
So, the first day of MacWorld and not any updates? Is the show this bad or is it just to early to see what's happening??? Anybody there? Anthing cool announced? :confused:
 
So, the first day of MacWorld and not any updates? Is the show this bad or is it just to early to see what's happening??? Anybody there? Anthing cool announced? :confused:

I'm with you on this one... my 5 year old powerbook has broke this morniing... screen isnt working... having to hook it up to my tv .. not quite a laptop when you have to connect it to a tv :(

Really hoping for a new macbook laptop announced!
 
I'm with you on this one... my 5 year old powerbook has broke this morniing... screen isnt working... having to hook it up to my tv .. not quite a laptop when you have to connect it to a tv :(

Really hoping for a new macbook laptop announced!

My 5 year old powerbook died 2 saturdays ago. I feel your pain. I ended up buying an HP and will hand it down to my wife when the new MBP's come out.
 
It's time for change, time for Macfanboys to stop praying to their demigod Steve Jobs. The Macworld exhibition needs to name its event to PCworld or Googleworld exhibition, for I feel Google will be the company that gives Apple a run for its money.


Think different, don't think Apple

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Yaaaa! Your Googlefanboyism is stronger than my Macfanboyism!
 
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