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Macworld San Francisco 2010 Kicks Off This Week
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That's really the attitude they should take. CES is successful without being focused on a single big announcement. Mac vendors and peripheral manufacturers rarely have a chance to get together and make some noise. This could be a great chance to showcase all of their innovation without being overshadowed by a Jobs keynote.
I agree generally with your assessment.
But once they decided to announce the iPad around the end of jan, why would it have mattered to wait til macworld--two weeks later--and share some excitement with their most loyal customers? Millions of other customers would enjoy that gesture vicariously.
and remember: they held their feb announcement at the buena vista, same venue the macworld announcements have been held in the past! I just don't understand making an announcement in the same hall, but ignoring MWSF to do it 2 weeks earlier.
If you can tell me how announcing it late jan instead of early feb makes a diff to the company's planning and execution, i'm all ears.
pls keep in mind apple is a company whose financial achievements have passed google and intel and are soon to overtake microsoft. take a gander at how those people represent at CES, for ex, and tell me they wouldn't be laughing at apple's "too costly" excuse for skipping MWSF. Upon examination, that explanation simply doesn't compute.
Not wanting to be forced into external scheduling forces for product release, I understand. But this year I don't see how that mattered to their agenda (see prior post)
It's so simple even a baby could understand yet,... so many here...Phil Schiller from Macworld 2009 said:
Macworld, always in early January up until now and Apple is always expected to have A LOT of new product to show, release or announce on that date -- every year, no excuses. Did Apple ever live up to the expectations? No,... so it seems that even the fans didn't appreciate Apple even WHEN they were actually there. I wouldn't bother either.
Who wants to be on IDG's timetable? I wouldn't. With the Mountain of cash they have, it's not the money. It's the time they have to prepare to announce for products that really aren't even ready to be announced yet. Apple wants total control in how their products are announced and Macworld was a big giant pain in the butt with this strategy because they always had less to announce than would make people happy. Huge laundry lists never satisfied kept the mac fans at large unhappy and negative blogging and forum posting for weeks later.
The funny thing is, if all the people who typed about products they wanted actually bought them, Apple would be a lot richer. There's a lot of trolls who like to preach and piss and moan but never really bother to buy anything.
Why feed the trolls?
Because that would be falling back into the "Apple always announces new products at Macworld" trap that they wanted to avoid. Apple rightly wants to announce new products on their own timeline. Even if that timeline happens to be 2 weeks before Macworld.
On the flip side you get Microsoft at CES showing off a tablet that will be released sometime in 2010. Helpful.
+1
And another thing: I have a MBP that I use at home, and a Dell Latitude E4300 that I use at work. There is no comparison in using the two. And I'm not even talking about the OS. I like the Mac OS better, but Windows 7 is not bad. However, the difference in the quality of the hardware is amazing. I'm very, very close to buying a MBP specifically for work, and just turning the whole HD into a Windows partition. Dell, and all of the other "more reasonably priced" hardware is just crap.
And this is coming from someone who has run Windows machines for decades before ever using a Mac.
That's because you misread what I wrote. I didn't say it was "too costly," I said it was "not cost-effective." It doesn't matter how much money you have, it's the way you spend what you have that counts. If Apple feels they can get more for their investment by doing their own shows, that's what makes sense financially.
Word. My employer-issued HP laptop is a joke too, and it's not even a bargain-priced model:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9202024#post9202024
Why do people keep buying these things???
Specifically what benefit did MacWorld provide that you can't get elsewhere?
- you can play with Apple products at your local Apple store. Even if you don't have an Apple store nearby, it's still easier to get to te nearest one than to Moscone.
- you can learn about third party products online better and easier than at a trade show. You can even download highly functional demos-- for free.
- if you really must attend a talk on Apple technologies, the developer's conference will provide better information and access.
OK, if you are an average user you can no longer attend a "SteveNote" live. But that has little to do with MacWorld, as in any case, Apple would have untied their major product announcements from having to take place on a single, pre-ordanied date.
Well, I'll still be attending. It'll be weird without Apple there, but frankly I never spent much time in their booth anyway. For me it's more about seeing the latest software, hardware add-ons, and accessories, as well as my once-a-year chance to get some of this stuff at cheaper-than-usual prices.
I'm betting that attendance and the number of exhibitors will be down, though.....
I'm betting that attendance and the number of exhibitors will be down, though.....
what's the point of this expo????if apple isn't their!!!!!
it's like a high school science fair.....with guys who want to impress people with powerpoints.
Lucky for you, you don't have to attend. For those of us that find value in attending classes, seeing venders of products we might not otherwise be aware of, hear interesting feature speakers, and socialize with many like-minded individuals, I'm glad it is available.
The perfect time, if Apple wants to take away whatever media attention the conference might otherwise attract. Apple would be doing the conference a favor if they wait until next week to release new MBPs.
Yeah, maybe if they renamed it iWorld ...
Is Apple a business or a rock band?
It used to be a little of both, but not anymore.
My late 2006 17" MBP died this morning, barely a month out of my AppleCare warranty. Thinking of getting a new 13" MBP if they get updated, since the repair costs just don't make sense.
Anyone have an idea what kind of performance gain I should expect?
Anyone have an idea what kind of performance gain I should expect?
Would be nice if Apple could slip the convention something tasty to reveal. Doesn't have to be a new product, maybe just info. I'm sure Apple have their reasons for not being there, scheduling possibly being a reason, but they could at least have some marketing interns or something there to at least keep a presence..
iPod and Mac users are two very different constituencies. You, on the other hand, probably belong to a third group which simply buys everything Apple
Saturday dates are not new
I went to a few Saturday Expos in the 80's...
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=3549
-Scott
I went to a few Saturday Expos in the 80's...
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=3549
-Scott
I've been holding out all year for an MBP 17". I'm not one of Apple's "fans" (wtf?) but I need a new laptop badly and if something doesn't happen by Tuesday I might do something drastic like run out and buy one.