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As many have said, why can Apple not add a backlit keys feature!?!?!? I'm using a second-generation wireless keyboard, and I'm leaning more and more towards the Logitech MX Keys as they offer all this and more.

The new Apple keyboard with the touch ID would have been a no brainer for me on my M1 MBP, but what the heck Apple!?!?!?!?!?

Also, what the heck is it with the super un-ergonomic Apple mouse? It's horrific to use (IMHO). As somebody who suffers from carpal tunnel, it's ridiculous they cannot build a decent ergonomic mouse. Again, I've reverted to a Logitech MX Master mouse which offers way more functionality.

Lagging Apple. Lagging.
Agreed. I stick to Apple keyboards but Logitech MX Master are great and made me enjoy using a mouse again.
 
not a huge fan of the rounded edges and keys... overly designed?

old iMacs had rounded edges as well and the old keyboard was fine without those crazy round edges
 
Yeah gotta be honest, with such a significant redesign, and the cpu now being Apple, I’m amazed they didn’t have Face ID as part of the whole package. Its not something terribly new, been on the iPhone since 2017.
I think iMac might be used from different distance and angle. making face id hard to adapt all use case.
Or maybe just because touch id is match cheaper。。。。。。。。。。。。
 
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unbelievable. if Apple was serious about driving adoption of USB-C from USB-A, peripherals with USB-C would have been the obvious way to do it.

Apple's pretty clearly moving to USBC for *host* devices -- *client* devices seem to be staying with Lightning.
 
Is this just Mac or iPad as well? Through magic keyboard? I didn’t watch the event and the article doesn’t allude to that information if iPad now has Touch ID through its peripheral
That is what i was wondering, too.
The article says "all macs with M1 chip" and lists them, but doesn't explicitly say whether the new iPad Pro with the M1 chip is supported or not 🤷🏼‍♂️
Would be really nice for using the iPad Pro in a "desktop setup" at home 👍

Update:
Well, it doesn‘t work with iPad. At least not right now. Might be a software issue with iPadOS.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ard-isnt-compatible-with-m1-ipad-pro.2292643/
 
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The lack of backlit at this point is tragicomic.
I have a Logitech K780 without backlit keys, and I’ve found that I don’t really miss the backlighting. It’s also a huge tactile upgrade over the older Logitech keyboard I have.
 
Yes. The light from the keyboard, which a typist should not be looking at anyway, distracts from the light on the display.

I don’t mind if they add the function with dimming - to each his or her own - but it certainly is not self-evident that keyboard backlighting is universally useful.
No it doesn’t or else the laptops wouldn’t have backlit keyboards and neither would that stand for the iPads.

you can add a screen bar light from e.g. XiaoMi or Benq, works better than backlight.

😂 My eyes started hurting 2 seconds in to that video. That’s terrible light placement.
 
With all this talk about the backlighting and whether there should be FaceID, I don't think we're giving enough attention to TouchID on a wireless keyboard. With the number of uses for TouchID—passwords, autofill, etc.—it's going to be excellent. (I love TouchID on my MBA, but I use a wireless keyboard most of the time for my at-home setup; it will be great not to have to reach all the way up to the laptop to use it.)
 
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With all this talk about the backlighting and whether there should be FaceID, I don't think we're giving enough attention to TouchID on a wireless keyboard. With the number of uses for TouchID—passwords, autofill, etc.—it's going to be excellent. (I love TouchID on my MBA, but I use a wireless keyboard most of the time for my at-home setup; it will be great not to have to reach all the way up to the laptop to use it.)
That's what I thought until I used touchid on the Mac. Then I quickly realized it was pointless and not needed.


Mac is almost always logged in and on. Sleeping when not in use.

RArely have to type in Mac login password.

When I do I'm already sitting at the keyboard and it's ~6 characters long.

Passwords are autofilled already. I just click to login.

It takes longer to take the right hand off of the keyboard or mouse and move the finger to TouchID.

TouchID on the Mac went from hero to zero in no time.

Opposite of TouchID on the iPhone.
 
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To hell with faceid, and wouldn't have made much sense for them either. What would they do, sell an expensive camera for macmini and everyone who uses macbooks in clamshell mode? Few would buy it. The magic keyboard with touchid on the other hand works in every situation and is a good product to begin with.
I'll give you the Mac mini and clamshell points as this solution is more ubiquitous in that regard. But it has nothing to do with the iMac or MacBooks for that matter having Face ID. The Touch ID keyboard can still exist, these aren't mutually exclusive concepts.

Touch ID is not well integrated on the keyboard. Firstly, you have to take your hands out of their normal position on the keyboard and reach for this single button in the corner...that's not the same kind of experience as Touch ID on an iOS device where your thumb/finger is already in position. It is easier to just keep your hands where they are on the keyboard and type in a password. It is not easier to do that on an iOS device. So the convenience aspect of Touch ID (which is the entire point) is lost on the Mac/keyboard.

On top of that, the way Autofill is handled on Macs with Touch ID enabled is absolutely dreadful. They've messed that up so much that I had to simply disable Touch ID.
 
With all this talk about the backlighting and whether there should be FaceID, I don't think we're giving enough attention to TouchID on a wireless keyboard. With the number of uses for TouchID—passwords, autofill, etc.—it's going to be excellent. (I love TouchID on my MBA, but I use a wireless keyboard most of the time for my at-home setup; it will be great not to have to reach all the way up to the laptop to use it.)
The way Autofill with Touch ID is handled on the Mac is absolutely dreadful. Until/unless that is changed, it is unusable.
 
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Both for me. Feel better now knowing?
Ya, I think this falls under accessibility and I agree that if it is a meaningful improvement for many people, Apple should accommodate.

I am sort of surprised that they haven’t, and given how far ahead they have pushed accessibility in their designs, I wonder what the reasoning is.
 
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I like the keyboard but I want an actual full size board with number pad so I can actually, you know, do some work

It’d be great if they’d offer one for users with your needs.

I prefer the compressed size since it helps me to do my work better by letting my keep my mouse closer and fit more on the desk; I never use the number pad.
 
I'll give you the Mac mini and clamshell points as this solution is more ubiquitous in that regard. But it has nothing to do with the iMac or MacBooks for that matter having Face ID. The Touch ID keyboard can still exist, these aren't mutually exclusive concepts.

Touch ID is not well integrated on the keyboard. Firstly, you have to take your hands out of their normal position on the keyboard and reach for this single button in the corner...that's not the same kind of experience as Touch ID on an iOS device where your thumb/finger is already in position. It is easier to just keep your hands where they are on the keyboard and type in a password. It is not easier to do that on an iOS device. So the convenience aspect of Touch ID (which is the entire point) is lost on the Mac/keyboard.

On top of that, the way Autofill is handled on Macs with Touch ID enabled is absolutely dreadful. They've messed that up so much that I had to simply disable Touch ID.
I'd rather lift my hands a dozen times than adjust my sitting position once just to unlock something. They are not technologically exclusive, but Apple wants maximum cash. They want to sell a lot of touchid keyboards before making you buy a new imac with faceid in 2-3 years.

I agree on autofill.
 
I'd rather lift my hands a dozen times than adjust my sitting position once just to unlock something. They are not technologically exclusive, but Apple wants maximum cash. They want to sell a lot of touchid keyboards before making you buy a new imac with faceid in 2-3 years.

I agree on autofill.
Adjust your position? One of the reasons Face ID is made for the Mac is the camera is always pointing directly at you, be it an iMac or MacBook.
 
That's what I thought until I used touchid on the Mac. Then I quickly realized it was pointless and not needed.


Mac is almost always logged in and on. Sleeping when not in use.

RArely have to type in Mac login password.

When I do I'm already sitting at the keyboard and it's ~6 characters long.

Passwords are autofilled already. I just click to login.

It takes longer to take the right hand off of the keyboard or mouse and move the finger to TouchID.

TouchID on the Mac went from hero to zero in no time.

Opposite of TouchID on the iPhone.
It's mandatory to lock computers when not at desk at a lot of companies. My password is way longer than 6 characters, absolutely hated typing it 10-20 times a day. Plus every time I had to autofill something from keychain. For me the touchid keyboard was the absolute high point of the event, by a huge margin.
 
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