I'm not so sure. There's largely two separate customers wanting two different kinds of gaming experiences. The Mac has never really been a "Gaming Platform" so I can't see serious Mac users spending hours and hours on their Macs playing games, especially if they also own consoles. What I can see is Mac users spending an hour on a game, having that progress saved to the network and then picking up on the game at home on the couch from where they left off after work hours.
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That's one of the reasons I would think Sony would want to get most of their content off the PC going forward and move onto a platform where the community is more hospitable, likely would appreciate the releases more, and very likely would buy more.
During the pandemic all electronics companies had constrained production as a result of supply chain problems and that spanned until last year. Sony in 2024 is far different than it has ever been. PlayStation generates the lion's share of revenue for Sony as a corporation these days and most won't play games with the part of the business that puts food on the table, so I doubt they would artificially handicap themselves like that.
Unless they're "forced". Think long term. With AMD falling hopelessly behind in GPU performance and Nvidia being much more expensive and much higher power requirement, what happens to future Playstation consoles?
You can easily put a 2kW power supply in a PC, but with a much smaller and harder to cool console...? If I had to design a new console for gaming and Apple would be willing, I'd at least evaluate the option to put a Mx Ultra Super Duper in it with 250W to 300W power consumption. The question is at what price... (not financially).
One thing not mentioned is that along with that tribalistic thinking comes a generally lower opinion of non-PC games, a lowered opinion particularly very successful non-PC games which adversely affects sales on PC. So it's a sour grapes situation for a lot of PC players to finally have a few Playstation games on PC.
I'd believe they would go the iOS route before dipping their toes in the macOS pool. Not sure if they would reduce game prices from the 70USD they currently ask for though.
The iOS route would (ImO) be the biggest failure out the gate. If PlayStation is indeed partnering with Apple, it’s to show of off the M-series power. An M4 Max playing Ghost of Tsushima at 4K 120fps Max settings would be a huge W. PlayStation games on iOS would cause nothing but overheating and under 30fps performance.
It’s time Apple showed the gaming world just how powerful Apple Silicon is.
Also, giving that Microsoft is now shipping ARM laptops/PCs, it’s best for Sony to partner with the king first
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I second that.
There are some games for which the mobile platform would be ideal, Sony just doesn't make many games like that and a lot of the higher profile games for the platform aren't ideal for mobile...for a number of reasons.
It's important to look at things holistically I mean even if Sony could get, say, God Of War 2018 running reliably on their phone or iPad there aren't hundreds of thousands or millions of people that will want to log 20+ hours on a small screened mobile device to play the game. Who wants to play Alien Isolation 2 on their phone? I'll be playing it in VR one way or another. Short/shortish play sessions/rounds is why live service games do so well on mobile.
Yet the PS5 Pro is seeing the exact same product constraints in 2024 that the original PS5 saw in 2020. So either Sony is absolutely terrible at meeting initial demand for a product regardless of supply chain statuses or they're manipulating availability to generate publicity.
As far as profitability is concerned, Sony is structured in the same fashion as Samsung, in that there are multiple companies sharing the overall name, even though they are run as independent entities. For example, SCEA & SCE Japan are separate companies from Sony's consumer electronics division, so any such agreement would be between Apple and those entities rather than between Apple and Sony in a monolithic sense.
I also don't think they should focus on mobile, but that is where the money is. If there were a macOS version I wonder if they would be willing to require 16GB of ram for all the PS5 games they port.
What makes God of War different from Assassins Creed?
Now it all makes sense. The leak of the base level M4 MBP getting 16GB of RAM instead of 12GB.
You’ll get a half-assed port of Concord instead!
The dollar is powerful, but as mentioned before Sony values their console first.
I’m glad that you didn’t say first and only, because you have given enough space for Sony to spend some funds on a partnership with Apple.
How much do you think would be a fair price and time period for such a deal, assuming that this rumor turns out to be true??
If taking the conservative approach, i’d say 5-year deal. With Playstation bringing games to PC 2-years after, I can see a slow gradual rollout on MacOS. Fair price would be 5-year $100M contract
To be announced at the October event : all new Macs ship with a game from Sony 😇
Just like old iMacs shipped with demos of Pangea games (remember Bugdom and Nanosaur?).
Just like old iMacs shipped with demos of Pangea games (remember Bugdom and Nanosaur?).
It doesn't seem like that's exactly the case. It's been stated publicly that PS5 total sales were around the same place as PS4 sales around the same time last year:
PS5 Sales Finally Surpass PS4 Sales on Time-Aligned Basis
PS5 single-handedly lifting up games hardware market The post PS5 Sales Finally Surpass PS4 Sales on Time-Aligned Basis appeared first on PlayStation LifeStyle.
This is kind of true, but at least as far as Playstation is concerned it seems like there's a bit more collaboration between them and Sony Pictures with he Uncharted series of films and now with Sony Mobile games with the Starship Troopers PSVR2 game coming. My guess is that any agreement would start in one area and expand to others so it would be hard to determine if all the deals were brokered separately, but since Apple already has some dealings with multiple parts of the Sony it seems like the most efficient way, if multiple different arrangements are sought after, would be to cut one comprehensive deal between the Sony and Apple CEO.
Quite possibly, but I also suspect they could work around that with a fast enough SSD requirement.
It's really Sony specifically. PlayStation already went the route of dual platforms when they released the PSVita and the cost of maintain those 2 ecosystems apparently brutalized the company. They are very unlikely to engage in any discussion around rebuilding games for mobile. It is rumored that they are working on a portable to release around the same time as PS6, but I would guess that it's more of a Steamdeck that upscales lowres current gen games. If iOS can do that then great, but the sales of these games on iOS, as-is, doesn't look good.
It seems that AC on iOS didn't sell:
Disappointing AAA game sales on iPhones and iPads reported as Assassin’s Creed Mirage and Resident Evil fail to attract fans
AAA games like Assassin’s Creed Mirage and Resident Evil 4/Village have struggled to gain a strong foothold in the iOS market as a recent report has claimed that the titles have not sold well. For instance, users have apparently bought Assassin’s Creed Mirage less than 3,000 times since the...
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AC also bombed on Quest, as another mobile platform:
https://www.roadtovr.com/ubisoft-assassins-creed-vr-failure-quest-2-3/
When the games are re-built and graphically downgraded to run on mobile hardware the sales returns probably aren't going to justify the cost to make them, that's the trend.
It's really MacOS and/or a forked version of MacOS that Sony and Apple would want for something like this in the long run.
What do you think about Apple’s push for gaming at WWDC 2022 and the new Metal 3 features? Will it benefit Mac gamers?
IMHO, it would be for the same reason as Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, etc ... i.e. to make more money selling whatever they wanted to sell. Gamers will benefit when install base grows large.
I’m not the person you’re referencing, but I think any help is positive.
Beggars can’t be choosers after all.
The real hurdle is just getting the platform to the point where native ports are self-sustaining. The big game engines already support Apple’s libraries natively (due to iOS’s weight) and Macs are running the same software under the hood.
In my opinion, Apple’s strategy should be to use their resources to address any barriers that disincentivize native ports. Don’t ask me how though.
Personally, I think they should go for the big multiplayer titles. It would go far in breaking the stigma that Macs and games don’t mix. This would probably involve making some sort of anticheat api that is compatible with existing anticheat software.
But I digress, any support is better than no support. And the renewed focus at least gives a sliver of hope that our favorite games will come to our platform of choice.