I think he's referring to civilians carrying guns. US allows open or concealed carry in some places, and I guess UK does not.
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Man Could Face Charges for Carrying iPhone Gun Case in London Airport
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The only line in the post (to which he's replying) where his comment would make any sense whatsoever is, "Police or criminals might shoot you thinking you're a threat." Now, granted, criminals are generally civilians, but it's hard to construe the comment, "In UK they don't carry guns", in that context, as implying any other subject than UK police.
Is it wrong that the first thing that came to mind when I saw the overall photo of that case is "If it has two oval-shaped holes in the end where the bullets are supposed to come out, it is the real-world version of a Rob Liefield gun!"
Actually it's not, because it's not chrome-plated and the size of a toaster, but it's the closest proportionally I've ever seen.
Actually it's not, because it's not chrome-plated and the size of a toaster, but it's the closest proportionally I've ever seen.
He was referring to street cops, and it's correct,no street cop has a gun. If the situation arises we have firearms units which are despatched when necessary.
High profile targets such as airports, embassy's, no 10 street, will have heavy armed units.
The average person in London or any where in the Uk will not see a police officer with a firearm . Pull a gun out, and a few cars will arrive shortly with heaven armed officers.
Guns are illegal for civilians . Unless used for hunting / farming.
Edit: was suppose to add sudo also....reply to you both.
Also the guy that posted the original statement probably saw it in a movie lol
Separate from gun ownership, I highly doubt legal gun carrying causes more gun deaths... at least if you only count innocents dying.
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How about police think it's a real gun and start drawing their own guns and the people around it can be harm...
I am gonna get me an iPhone case that looks like a bag of cocaine. I do not see any problems with that. It is just a case. I'll probably zip right through. Right?
I have watched enough episodes of Locked Up Abroad to know better.
I'll be happy to buy you one of these if still available and have you walk into a major airport and see how that will turn out. What can go wrong? they are professional after all.
Yes, this is a very stupid thing to do. However, police in UK or the US, do not shoot people for just being in possession of a weapon, whether it is legal or illegal or real or fake.
Yes, this is going to get you stopped and may even cause them to draw weapons as the ask you to lay down on the ground. Which is what happened here. He didn't get shot because as stupid as he was, he was not so stupid as to resist the police.
The BS narrative that certain constituencies are making is that police shoot first and ask questions later.
In almost all of the recent shootings, the victim, refused to comply with police instructions and resisted arrest.
I don't know where people got the idea that a police office has to justify to you why you are being arrested before you comply. If people keep thinking that, then we will keep having situations like we just had. In this most recent situation, I'm not saying the cops were in any way justified, from what I saw, lethal force was not justified, but even racist cops aren't going to shoot someone who complies with their instructions.
Yes, this is going to get you stopped and may even cause them to draw weapons as the ask you to lay down on the ground. Which is what happened here. He didn't get shot because as stupid as he was, he was not so stupid as to resist the police.
The BS narrative that certain constituencies are making is that police shoot first and ask questions later.
In almost all of the recent shootings, the victim, refused to comply with police instructions and resisted arrest.
I don't know where people got the idea that a police office has to justify to you why you are being arrested before you comply. If people keep thinking that, then we will keep having situations like we just had. In this most recent situation, I'm not saying the cops were in any way justified, from what I saw, lethal force was not justified, but even racist cops aren't going to shoot someone who complies with their instructions.
Dumb and dumber. Not sure it is dumber to carry or dumber to think carry it in airport is ok.
There is all kinds of people in this world.
Let's say you are in a country where lots of people carry guns, like the USA. You are in a shop, and the shop is robbed by an armed robber with a gun. All he wants is money and not get caught, and everything goes alright, until he spots you with the fake gun in your pocket. He sees the danger in the situation and shoots you. And you can't defend yourself with your stupid iPhone case.
Never carry a fake gun. Personally, I think you shouldn't carry a gun at all, even where it is legal, but by carrying a fake gun you get all the disadvantages and none of the advantages of carrying a gun.
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Never carry a fake gun. Personally, I think you shouldn't carry a gun at all, even where it is legal, but by carrying a fake gun you get all the disadvantages and none of the advantages of carrying a gun.
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Guns are a major contributor to suicide in the USA. Not to suicide attempts, but suicide attempts with guns involved seem to be "successful" more often.
Unless, the guy robbing the place actually has an iPhone gun case and pretending it's a gun and then sees yours and realises you know his secret so he darts for the door. You then are the hero!
Bonus points if he runs through the airport with it, and lunges towards police while grabbing at the gun-shaped phone case in his waistband. I mean, that's all perfectly legal, right?
We do things a little different here the USA. If white man who is armed to the teeth is pulled over, the cop will politely ask to see his permits and possibly ticket him for the moving violation.
Or, if the white man was just in a gang shootout that involved shots fired at police, the cops will treat him like this:
Il y a pas d'innocents. Les hommes sont coupables. Ils viennent au monde innocents, mais ça ne dure pas.-- Jean Pierre Melville
No.... The correct ending to that story is...
he runs through the airport with it, and lunges towards police while grabbing at the gun-shaped phone case in his waistband, and screams "can you hear me now?" As he lands on the officers taking them all to the ground.
I'd rather not have lots of my society carrying guns, even legally thanks. We've evolved past that. Even when handguns were legal here up until 1997, people just didn't have the interest level they get in the States.
In the urban or the rural areas? The US is a big country with states full of different people. In general, the gun laws are less admissive in the cities here. No open carry for sure, sometimes no concealed carry either. But it's not fair to take away guns from people living out in the desert, where law enforcement takes to long to respond that you've already been killed (by a human or an animal) by the time they arrive. And they can't effectively ban guns anywhere because they're too easy to smuggle in. The UK has the advantage of being smaller and an island, so it's easier to control that.
Also, evolved? Your country doesn't even have real freedom of speech. Say something anti-Israel, and you'll be paying a fine.
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I was talking about people 'carrying' guns, not owning them in rural locations. You can own shot guns here with a license.
The UK doesn't allow freedom of speech? Of course we do! We've just allowed the people to vote is out of Europe without going through a Senate and our protests happen without people getting shot.
Gun ownership in the rural areas is half of it. Go anywhere outside your house, and what, you can't have a gun? And Brexit isn't a good example of a protest. We have serious race issues here due to our history, but bills tend to go through peacefully. Anyway, in the city, I don't support legal carrying. I'm on the fence about it.
Also, you most definitely do not have freedom of speech. As horrible as it is to be racist, you apparently have the thought police protecting people against it, which is even worse. Anti-semitism is the example I've seen in the news, and that's the only reason I'm mentioning it. Yeah, Nazis are bad, but a lot of these people are just enraged Palestinians, and they get fined for being rude even if they aren't threatening. I'd think a speech-related crime would involve only jail time, not fines. A few examples: https://cst.org.uk/antisemitism/prosecutions
In the US, you wouldn't be prosecuted for most of these things. They're very careful to respect free speech. If you made an actual threat to someone's safety, you could be arrested and/or jailed, maybe sued in a civil court for harassment, and that's it.
Well, the UK is at least far better than France in that area.
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