it's called personal experience, if your around drugs your more likely to take more drugs, you may be sensible or whatever, good for you but the fact is that most drugs have a large negative effect and 90% of users are convinced they dont have a problem and they are sensible about it.
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I bet you would be surprised at how many normal people you encounter day to day in London that use drugs and you would never know the difference.Hector said:
But in reality, I probably didn't know anything about drugs at age 17 either. Never drank, never smoked never did anything. It was only after I got to college I started doing more research on drugs and learning what they do and why people do them. I've done quite a bit of them but technically I've never done a drug that is classified as "physically addictive." Well, except caffeine, and I doubt I will ever be able to stop drinking Coke or any other soda. I've taken all my drugs with careful research (usually from erowid.org) and have maintained healthy doses to prevent anything damaging to my body. I am a full time student and a normal working citizen and you would never know I do drugs unless I told you myself.
jon
Umm- I hope I don't get banned for this, but when I was in college, I did every illegal drug known to man (except heroin and meth) and I turned out fine. I just wanted the experiences mainly. It was fun for a while, but got boring.
pseudobrit said:
Crackhead? Where did that come from?
Anyway, Wasnt it Steve Jobs who said that He wouldn't trust anyone who hadn't at least tried LSD?
oh wait...
The author even recounts how Apple founder Steve Jobs once told him that "taking LSD was one of the two or three most important things he had done in his life."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/04/24/RVGSIC93AT1.DTL
leekohler said:
So what scared you off heroin? It's not a particularly dangerous drug. You can drop dead instantly from a line of coke.
obeygiant said:
i think it started around.... here:
Hector said:
i will not point out the horrible grammar shown by any particular self-professed anti pot people based on how pot kills your brain, unlike "moderate" alcohol usage....
aquajet said:You can't fool me.
i don't think he was trying to fool you? he came right out and said he smoked pot....
dogbone said:
something tells me you stand a much better chance of dying right
off from an improper dose of heroin than a line of coke...
unless of course that line is an 8 ball and this is your first time doing
coke and its laced with rat poison...
there is a difference between recreationally using drugs and
abusing drugs... happy 4:20...
and pothead does not equal 85% crackheads... you anti drug
people are more screwed up than the pro drug people...
steve jobs... what a loser... he did acid... i bet he smokes crack
and eats glue too... im buying vista the day it comes out...
get off your crosses.
aquajet said:
i think it's great that you are trying to let people know what sort of problems drug use can lead to, from your personal experiences. like i've said, i don't do any drugs (even alcohol, tobacco..); however, i also don't think it's fair to generalize all experiences of those who do drugs as being equal to yours. i think that it is a case of self control and i know that some people have more of it than others. i think i have an addictive personality, and addiction seems to run in my family... so that is yet another reason i choose not to get started with drugs.
dogbone said:
I was afraid I'd like it too much. I'd tried opium and really liked that, so I figured heroin was probably a bad idea.
g30ffr3y said:
Not really. It's unlikely that snorting or smoking heroin would do you any harm, even if you had a lot you'd probably just feel really nauseous for a week. you woudn't get toxic shock. Most junkies die either from hitting up bad gear or, like Sid Vicious from not having any for a while and hitting up some very strong gear. Injecting drugs is not the usual way to try something.
However even if you don't get toxic shock from Cocaine, (and only takes a very tiny amount can do this) one can still have a heart attack. A line of coke is inherently more dangerous than a line of smack for a first time user.
leekohler said:
Heroin is not like other drugs. It's more a way of life. One really needs to be a dedicated loser to become a heroin addict.
jelloshotsrule said:
Point taken. Although, I wasn't exactly trying to generalize all experiences of those who do drugs as being equal to mine. Maybe you got that impression from my previous post. I guess my subtle bit of humor wasn't conveyed well enough.
aquajet said:Point taken. Although, I wasn't exactly trying to generalize all experiences of those who do drugs as being equal to mine. Maybe you got that impression from my previous post. I guess my subtle bit of humor wasn't conveyed well enough.
fair enough, i didn't catch the sarcasm! my bad.
dogbone said:
you could get hit by a car walking out from work for the day... i guess
i just see heroin as a "scary" drug where coke is more just like the
weed of speed...
This entire discussion is shifting ways from its origional focus. Well, I've been monitoring and throwing my 2 cents whenever I have thought it would fit. Now since we are all debating whether or not coke is bad or good, I think those who were anti-pot were in a way correct. Just like using the drug, pot has been a gateway for further discussion on more serious drugs. Ironic?
Well I guess I couldn't fool everyone, especially someone who does drugs like me. I guess I was referring to the general public I encounter everday at school and work. Not that they (general public) ever wonder if I partake in drugs, but I highly doubt they would suspect it. Being a well mannered and professional person at work and in everyday life keeps me out of the "druggie" stereotype.aquajet said:If there's one thing I've discovered through my seven year drug binge, it's how to spot a dope fiend. You can't fool me.
The only time I've had someone tell me they knew I used a certain drug was my 30 y/o cousin. He recently moved back here from the northwest and he said he could tell I used cocaine cause I itched my nose a lot. I laughed at him and told him I have never tried cocaine in my life. Must be the allergies and pollen.
jon
g30ffr3y said:
I remember about 30 years ago I was talking to someone who I knew to be a smack addict and I knew nothing about drugs then. I had a gut feeling of the 'badness' or heroin. I remember I was sitting in a cafe with him at one time and he took out a clear geletine capsule filled with a yellow oily substance that he proceeded to pierce with a pin and smear on his face, and I thought to myself. "wow, so that's heroin". Turns out it was just vitamine E oil.
i find weed soooo much different than other hard drugs. no matter what i try next, i always fall back to it. its just so relaxed. i haven't found it addicting in any way (clean for 2 weeks now due to living at home again, haven't craved it) and i've really put life in perspective. every now and then i refresh myself with some psycadelics to really think things through. I've always found that i'm bored of the reality i've been watching for 18 years, why not switch things up. last time i did shrooms i pretty well left this world, and i got a taste of what else is out there. honestly, what are the odds that these kinds of plants are naturally formed, and have such a specific effect on our minds and spirits? i do it more out of curiousity than anything.
as far as current legal drugs, i've strayed away from booze since i've started smoking, which has benefitted me physically and mentally (beer tends to slow you down a tad) and i'll never touch a cigarette. I find them very pointless and expensive. why get addicted to something that tastes bad, has no effect on you (as far as being high) and is physically unattractive? i'll never understand i guess, unless i smoke some dope, then i'll likely figure it out
as far as current legal drugs, i've strayed away from booze since i've started smoking, which has benefitted me physically and mentally (beer tends to slow you down a tad) and i'll never touch a cigarette. I find them very pointless and expensive. why get addicted to something that tastes bad, has no effect on you (as far as being high) and is physically unattractive? i'll never understand i guess, unless i smoke some dope, then i'll likely figure it out