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Marissa Mayer Says Yahoo Would 'Welcome the Opportunity' to Become Default Safari Search Engine

xdigi said:
It's called Bing.. and it has for some time now in images, maps, and search. Try it some time.



Apple will go with whoever makes the better deal. Considering how much the Firefox switch to Yahoo has hurt Google (given that they're aggressively advertising how to switch on their homepage), Google better get cracking.
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Is Firefox relevant though? I used to be a user myself but I was under the impression that the only two relevant browsers nowadays is Safari (both iOS and Mac), and Chrome.

kaldezar said:
You must work with an awful lot of brain dead people or alternatively people who hanker for the tech of 20th Century! Yahoo has to be the worst company for customer service I have ever encountered, they deliberately do not have a telephone number for customer support. Adobe does the same thing and their non existent customer service is probably worse, at least Yahoo don't charge for using their software!:eek:
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Who needs telephone customer support? This is the 21st century.

Poisonivy326 said:
It won't happen. Steve Jobs was a thermonuclear kind of guy. Tim Cook is a smooth operator, and he won't jeopardize customer satisfaction that way.
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Behind the facade he is an incredibly efficient and strategic guy. He's ruthless (due to experience with dealing with the supply chain and logistics part. Look what he did with the suppliers for the sapphires.).

Don't underestimate Tim.

Scott Forstall, despite being kind of like a 'mini Steve Jobs' figure, doesn't hold a candle to Tim. Tim's run the company very, very well.
 
Yahoo Can't even search it's own mail

Yahoo is terrible. I consistently have problems with my yahoo mail doing a search for emails. Having it be a default search engine for Apple would be a disaster. I can't see Apple actually pursuing this.
 
rekhyt said:
Behind the facade he is an incredibly efficient and strategic guy. He's ruthless (due to experience with dealing with the supply chain and logistics part. Look what he did with the suppliers for the sapphires.).

Don't underestimate Tim.

Scott Forstall, despite being kind of like a 'mini Steve Jobs' figure, doesn't hold a candle to Tim. Tim's run the company very, very well.
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I'm not underestimating him. I'm just saying Tim Cook (unlike Steve Jobs) doesn't make decisions based on grudges or outrage at the moment. Look at how he's managed to keep Samsung as a supplier of parts despite the "feud" between the two companies. Tim Cook won't change Google as the search engine because it's a win-win for both companies. iOS/OSX users get Google services and Google gets ad revenue. He's not going to fix something that's not broken.
 
Please do, Yahoo. Google's gone tedious for a while now, posting ads of whatever products I happened to have glanced at.
 
Poisonivy326 said:
I'm not underestimating him. I'm just saying Tim Cook (unlike Steve Jobs) doesn't make decisions based on grudges or outrage at the moment. Look at how he's managed to keep Samsung as a supplier of parts despite the "feud" between the two companies. Tim Cook won't change Google as the search engine because it's a win-win for both companies. iOS/OSX users get Google services and Google gets ad revenue. He's not going to fix something that's not broken.
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I agree with the first point.

An additional point: it was wise to help Samsung (indirectly, as profits from the manufacturing division can be funnelled towards the mobile division), considering how they're being estranged from Google.

Google's the main threat, not Samsung. Apple would be happy to capture the profitable high margin high-end spectrum of the mobile hardware industry, while Samsung can do the rest (if they can, that is. Compete against the Chinese and Indian mobile companies that can create phones at ultra low costs).

Second point, however, I disagree. Tim Cook will change Google as the default search engine on both the Mac (Safari) and iOS (Safari for iOS, Siri, ...). I believe they've already done so with Siri as well (with little fanfare).

Why would Apple benefit Google by funnelling both 1) Data 2) Users towards Google's search service, and also possibly lead them to being entrapped by Google's ecosystem?

In terms of Google services as well: iCloud suffices, and if not, Microsoft's offerings are an alternative (for the power users who want to use Office or OneDrive).

It is imperative for them to move away from Google.

I doubt Apple would create their own search engine (probably leverage Microsoft's Bing directly, or indirectly), but at this stage in time Google is becoming incredibly dangerous.

Envision the 1989 Mac poster, but instead of IBM or Microsoft as the big guy on the screen, it's Google. With all your data.
 
Umm, sure. Yahoo's ability to generate ad revenue would certainly skyrocket as a result, so great for them as they would have the most to gain. But what about us iOS users? Sub-par search results, no thanks. Regardless, most knowledgable iOS users would end up switching their preference back to Google and Bing in no time flat.
 
kaldezar said:
You must work with an awful lot of brain dead people or alternatively people who hanker for the tech of 20th Century! Yahoo has to be the worst company for customer service I have ever encountered, they deliberately do not have a telephone number for customer support. Adobe does the same thing and their non existent customer service is probably worse, at least Yahoo don't charge for using their software!:eek:
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Actually, they do have a number apparently, I have it if you would like, months ago I couldn't remember my password and was trying to reset it, no matter what new password I entered, it wouldn't accept it and someone from Yahoo on FB said I needed to call.


1-800-318-0612, from 6 am to 6 pm PST
 
Why does there have to be a preset? Why not allow everyone to declare their choice when installing the new OS?
 
firedept said:
Well it certainly would be good for Yahoo, but how good would this be for Apple?
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Exactly. Yahoo Search does not bring anything worthwhile to the table. At the very least, revamp the UI so that it does not resemble poor man's version of Google. It should stand out from the crowd in a good way.
 
a few months ago I tried to get my yahoo account back that I had ages ago because of something I was doing, some API thing probably. any who they refused to give it back to me and that was the final end of yahoo for me.
 
kaldezar said:
You must work with an awful lot of brain dead people or alternatively people who hanker for the tech of 20th Century! Yahoo has to be the worst company for customer service I have ever encountered, they deliberately do not have a telephone number for customer support. Adobe does the same thing and their non existent customer service is probably worse, at least Yahoo don't charge for using their software!:eek:
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Adobe requires you to pay a subscription fee for use of their software...for life?
It's insane
 
bigrustyjc said:
Yahoo is terrible. I consistently have problems with my yahoo mail doing a search for emails. Having it be a default search engine for Apple would be a disaster. I can't see Apple actually pursuing this.
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How is Yahoo terrible?

A side by side comparison of a "bill gates" search yields pretty much the same results.
 

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I'd use Google. What I'm worried about is all the OS X and iOS search services that currently(?) use Yahoo!. Yahoo! is junk.
 
kaldezar said:
You must work with an awful lot of brain dead people or alternatively people who hanker for the tech of 20th Century! Yahoo has to be the worst company for customer service I have ever encountered, they deliberately do not have a telephone number for customer support. Adobe does the same thing and their non existent customer service is probably worse, at least Yahoo don't charge for using their software!:eek:
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Agreed, Yahoo! is among the worst companies in general I can think of. The next worst would be Conduit.

I knew I was ****ed when I opened my grandma's DSL router/modem and saw that, for some reason I could not understand, the router software was made by Yahoo! around 2005. And I was. Stupid thing required me to install software on a Windows PC to set it up, which took hours to finish doing whatever it was doing, and the router is ridiculously unreliable.
 
Do you want to make the search function completely useless in Safari?

Because that is how you make people hate Safari.




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Seriously, this was one of the worst things to happen to the latest versions of Firefox.

TEG
 
I use DuckDuckGo, which is now available as an option in Safari in iOS and OS X. They don't track you, no creepy factor.

After being a huge Google search nut since basically started, then being turned off by their general creepiness, I've been surprised by the quality of DuckDuckGo results. It also uses the top space below the search as an instant answer space, instead of a whole bunch of ads.

Search has become a commodity, there is nothing magical with what Google is doing anymore. I wonder when that will become general knowledge.
 
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as long as I can continue to change the default to my preference (Duck Duck Go) then there is no issue with whatever deal Apple strikes for the default.

Better of course is if we could change the default for web browser, email and maps.
 
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