Mark Zuckerberg Says Apple Vision Pro Has No 'Magical Solutions'

[riverfreak]

Mark’s engineers recognized the problems but couldn’t solve them. Noted.

When you’re a social media mogul, you see everything through that lens.

But it might just be that what we need are more seamless and facile interfaces to technology, not to each other.

 

[bejib66000]

Why did you announce the Meta 3 the Friday before Apple showed this off?

Cmon dude. I have a Meta 2 and it’s a toy compared to this.

But VPro 🤿 is also a toy with no particular purpose, just more advanced and expensive.

 

[Abazigal]

But it requires an iCloud account, pick your poison. Power corrupts.

I don’t see how anyone can equate a Facebook account vs Sign in with Apple or an Apple ID in terms of tracking.

You know he is not wrong. He made very reasonable arguments, he even mentioned he will see how it goes. Do not forget when iPhone launched it had no app store so it was locked to just a phone with built in apps. No one can tell the future but we can only judge with what we know so far.

Hence the saying - he who laughs last, laughs best.

And my personal favourite - one bets against Apple to their own detriment.

 

[Dark_Omen]

I’m gonna guess cell phone providers adopt this tech and break up the cost over 36 months, like they do now with cell phones.

 

[Gasu E.]

Zuckerberg is insanely myopic on this. There's no money to be made in a rudimentary skeletal proto-Metaverse, so no developers at this point are going to have a financial incentive to build it out. It makes more sense to start by building high-end niche VR applications, which have an immediate payoff. Then, when enough of those exist, you can start connecting those up into possible nodes in your Metaverse. Apple's do-all headset is clearly going to be the platform of choice for those initial set of applications; not some less capable, compromised platform, even at a lower price point.

 

[RevTEG]

He really lives in a different world. While $499-$999 is much cheaper, it’s FAR from "accessible and affordable to everyone." I work in parts of the world that barely make that per year.

 

[noSpeed]

Who doesn’t have an iTunes account? Also, iTunes accounts aren’t there specifically to harvest your data?

Everyone who has nothing to do with apple...

 

[Cesar Battistini]

We can hate on LeZuck all we want but he has a valid point. He was probably scared Apple would make some revolutionary use for it (which they would have to copy) but in the end there’s nothing new. Just done much better. I think developers is what will make Vision Pro shine

The same, name one spatial computer at that level.

 

[MacUser00]

You are such a stupid, idiotic person. Crawl in a hole. Don't come out again. Ever.

 

[CastroAstro369]

Let’s be real… what magical solutions has Zuckerberg offered to this world?

Facebook Ads, invading privacy, collecting users' data?

for reals! this guy is talking about values! lol. what a joke.

 

[dandyryan]

Is that what Apple fanboys think of Meta ??

🤣🤣

Come out of your cocoon.

it's not about what they "think"
these are simply facts.

Meta fined €390m over use of data for targeted ads

The EU data watchdog says the way Meta obtained permission to process users' data for ads broke data law.

www.bbc.com

 

[CastroAstro369]

In a companywide meeting with employees today, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg responded to Apple's announcement of the Vision Pro, according to The Verge's Alex Heath. Zuckerberg said the Vision Pro has no "magical solutions" that Meta has not thought of, and "costs seven times more" than its recently-announced Quest 3 headset.

Zuckerberg added that Apple's announcement "really showcases the difference in the values and the vision that our companies bring to this," noting that Meta's goal is to offer products that are "accessible and affordable to everyone." Vision Pro will be priced at $3,499, while the Quest 3 will be priced at $499 and the Quest Pro costs $999.

Meta's goal with the metaverse is "fundamentally social," whereas the Vision Pro appears to be more isolating, according to Zuckerberg. He admitted that Apple's approach "could be the vision of the future of computing," but is "not the one that I want."

Zuckerberg's full comments, as reported by The Verge:Just days before WWDC, Meta previewed the Quest 3, its next-generation mixed reality headset. Launching later this year, the headset features a 40% slimmer and more comfortable design, a higher-resolution display, and up to twice the graphics performance as the Quest 2. The headset will start at $499 with 128GB of storage, and the company plans to share more details about it at an event on September 27.

Apple said the Vision Pro will be available in the U.S. in early 2024.

Article Link: Mark Zuckerberg Says Apple Vision Pro Has No 'Magical Solutions'

Values! Haha! What a joke. While invading your Privacy. Typical rant, like a little toddler.

 

[McNoise]

The future will show what people accept: a (second) Second Life with Nintendo graphics or a real life where digital things will simply be added we have been using for a long time.

Enriching the reality will be the future, not creating another one!

Go for it, Apple - I'm excited to see the Apple Vision Air in a few years.

 

[Solomani]

For the last several months.... the tech world kinda forgot Meta and Zuckerberg even existed. Hardly any mention of anything they've done lately that's news-worthy.

Today..... Zuck is trying really really hard to stay relevant. 🤣

 

[frenchcamp49er]

Zuk pooped his pants. 🤣

 

[ThunderSkunk]

Meta's goal with the metaverse is "fundamentally social," whereas the Vision Pro appears to be more isolating, according to Zuckerberg. He admitted that Apple's approach "could be the vision of the future of computing," but is "not the one that I want."

Good thing the world is not beholden to what this clown wants. When I socialize, it's on a beach or trailhead, around a bike, a windsurfer, or a fire, not sitting indoors with headgear on so I can pretend to be socializing somewhere I'm not with cartoon versions of people who aren't there. I get that this guy wants to worm his way into monetizing our personal lives, but I want a restraining order & a galaxy of spacetime between computers and my social life.

 

[Boeingfan]

Is that a data harvester behind you, Mark?

 

[Boeingfan]

Good thing the world is not beholden to what this clown wants. When I socialize, it's on a beach or trailhead, around a bike, a windsurfer, or a fire, not sitting indoors with headgear on so I can pretend to be socializing somewhere I'm not with cartoon versions of people who aren't there. I get that this guy wants to worm his way into monetizing our personal lives, but I want a restraining order & a galaxy of spacetime between computers and my social life.

Beautifully put. There were many advantages to the world BEFORE the internet existed.

 

[Hildy]

Meta would have to straight-up fire almost all of its workforce, and aggressively poach replacements for them from the hardcore silicon engineering, electronics, and 3D graphics industry, just to begin catching up to the extremely strong custom hardware/firmware/software integration that Apple just demoed, and after all that they wouldn't be able to manufacture the thing at scale. Zuckerberg knows he's stuck making plastic knockoffs for the next FIVE YEARS.

Your summary is fantastic, 20 years ago we used to build massive rooms with 10'x30' screens curved in two directions and connect them to computers that fill rooms. We did it to interpret very large and complex geometries in massive data sets. Now those computers are equivalent to the new Mac Pro and the headset replaces the immersive environment. 3D immersion has global professional applications which will change the game in many sectors now that it is approachable.

We tried to integrate Oculus a long time ago and realized it would take hardware evolution to reduce the nasuea. Apple's device is expensive, but it had to be to set the bar for latency and experience. This first iteration is like Gretzky skating to where the puck will be, not where it is. Prices will stay the same for high end, Moore's law or some evolution of it will continue to shrink hardware, extend and shrink batteries and eventually the hardware experience will catch up and lower cost models will be created to compete on the lower non-professional end.

All of the amazing developers and the solid operating environment Apple ties into are where the rubber meets the road going forward, build for this high end tool set and grow with the platform. I'm no longer in the game, but I'll grab V2 of this set up and enjoy it for non-professional applications. Or maybe I'll buy one when I start designing our next house, if I can find an architect working with tools which will work in this space! Let's go developers!

 

[Kissmo1980]

Zuckerberg is insanely myopic on this. There's no money to be made in a rudimentary skeletal proto-Metaverse, so no developers at this point are going to have a financial incentive to build it out. It makes more sense to start by building high-end niche VR applications, which have an immediate payoff. Then, when enough of those exist, you can start connecting those up into possible nodes in your Metaverse. Apple's do-all headset is clearly going to be the platform of choice for those initial set of applications; not some less capable, compromised platform, even at a lower price point.

Zuckerberg is reacting to this, the same way Steve Balmer reacted to the iPhone - if you remember (just google Steve Balmer reacting to iPhone)

We all know Meta was doomed from the beginning.
I already said it before - When you try to change the Logo before changing your business ethics, sooner or later this is what happens.

I had ZERO interest and excitement about Apple's VR.
After the keynote and reviews - I realize that this has an iPhone potential.
Even Mr Z knows it - he should have kept his mouth shut and make no public statement.

 

[Born Again]

But Apple doesn’t require a Facebook account; worth the price of admission

you and many of us won't pay for that admission lol

who are we kidding?

 

[Born Again]

Let’s be real… what magical solutions has Zuckerberg offered to this world?

Facebook Ads, invading privacy, collecting users' data?

lets be real - macrumors tracks your usage and sells ads as well as apple

you do see that macrumors has targeted ads?????

 

[Alvin777]

In a companywide meeting with employees today, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg responded to Apple's announcement of the Vision Pro, according to The Verge's Alex Heath. Zuckerberg said the Vision Pro has no "magical solutions" that Meta has not thought of, and "costs seven times more" than its recently-announced Quest 3 headset.

Zuckerberg added that Apple's announcement "really showcases the difference in the values and the vision that our companies bring to this," noting that Meta's goal is to offer products that are "accessible and affordable to everyone." Vision Pro will be priced at $3,499, while the Quest 3 will be priced at $499 and the Quest Pro costs $999.

Meta's goal with the metaverse is "fundamentally social," whereas the Vision Pro appears to be more isolating, according to Zuckerberg. He admitted that Apple's approach "could be the vision of the future of computing," but is "not the one that I want."

Zuckerberg's full comments, as reported by The Verge:Just days before WWDC, Meta previewed the Quest 3, its next-generation mixed reality headset. Launching later this year, the headset features a 40% slimmer and more comfortable design, a higher-resolution display, and up to twice the graphics performance as the Quest 2. The headset will start at $499 with 128GB of storage, and the company plans to share more details about it at an event on September 27.

Apple said the Vision Pro will be available in the U.S. in early 2024.

Article Link: Mark Zuckerberg Says Apple Vision Pro Has No 'Magical Solutions'

Hehe, sure, sure Mark.

I think it's all about the integration with our other Macs, especially the restoration of our documents and apps on Time Machine.

God bless the amazing eco-system of Apple. I can't wait to buy (sell all the Macs and stuff) to buy the amazing Vision Pro in 24 or more easy payments (hopefully the Apple partnering with the credit card companies will offer 0% interest 5 years installment plan) it's heaven as described in Revelation 21:4

But if people complain, Apple should significantly lower the price by less than US$999 putting it at Valve Index 1 or 2 territory (brand new) even though Vision Pro is really similar to Varjo specs.

 

[Solomani]

There is no existence of Apple Vision Pro. No. That is Western Propaganda. Do not believe it.

Only believe that our Dear Leader, Zuckerberg, will deliver on AI and all things Metaverse.

Everything else is foolishness. We will crush our enemies. We will vanquish our rivals. We shall plunder everyone's personal data. Oh wait. Forget I said that. In any case, we declare victory in the Mother of All Virtual Battles.

 

[Kierkegaarden]

But if people complain, Apple should significantly lower the price by less than US$999 putting it at Valve Index 1 or 2 territory (brand new) even though Vision Pro is really similar to Varjo specs.

Varjo XR-3 goes for €6495 + required subscription at €1495.