Source please...I'll wait.Nope. Meta does not have access to whatsapp encryption keys.
Source please...I'll wait.Nope. Meta does not have access to whatsapp encryption keys.
You make an excellent point. I've really come to question the necessity of following this site. In the days I started following MR was around 2007; I was a "Creative" at an Apple store. Steve Jobs was still alive, and I was in love with the "Apple Culture". Part of that enthusiasm was due to this forum. But now, like all areas of the internet, hate runs ridiculously rampant here. I hate what it (MacRumors) has become. I only stay here out of habit; it appears more and more I should change my way of thinking...Engagement/comments -> ad revenue? It works obviously 🤷♂️
He’s a bit more than a money grab… He’s a robotic human installed into his position to run CIA/DARPA’s LifeLog population surveillance program, AKA Facebook.WhatsApp Is 'Far More Private and Secure' Than iMessage—Yeah, but it’s also owned by Meta/Facebook. 🤣
Every single human on this planet knows that Mark Zuckerberg is just a money grab. Never had an original idea of his own, and his ulterior motive with anything he does is making money, the sleazy way.
It’s a setting on your phone not on their end.Nothing happened on my phone, no updates... it's not even relevant!
Something definitely happened on their end, because I never enabled iCloud messages and I check it quite often not to be enabled.
So how come it got enabled and started syncing SMS and iMessages over two years old?
Why do they have this messages and iMessages stored?
This is something very serious, it's irrelevant that your messages are about eating donuts.
It’s the same reason they allow, and even promote people who dislike Apple products or Apple as a company to hang around here. It gets people fired up, and that means more engagement and more ads. It’s just how the Internet works now.You make an excellent point. I've really come to question the necessity of following this site. In the days I started following MR was around 2007; I was a "Creative" at an Apple store. Steve Jobs was still alive, and I was in love with the "Apple Culture". Part of that enthusiasm was due to this forum. But now, like all areas of the internet, hate runs ridiculously rampant here. I hate what it (MacRumors) has become. I only stay here out of habit; it appears more and more I should change my way of thinking...
Farewell to a golden era...
I have evidence of Signal doing the same data mining.I have multiple screenshots as evidence of Whats app mining chat messages and then displaying Facebook ads relevant only to conversations I have had in the Whats App chat. Things so obscure and unique to 'one-off' chat comments that the only way Facebook could consider displaying a recommendation for service is if Whats App was mining my data and sharing it with Facebook.
The only real option is to use Signal if you are concerned about privacy.
Good point.I notice he doesn't compare WhatsApp to Signal, Telegram, Threema, SafeSwiss or any of the many other private messenger apps out there.
You may refuse to use it but then you are isolated to the US. Not defending Whatsapp but outside the US that is what everyone uses. Nobody uses iMessages outside the US. Good luck with that.i refuse to use whatsapp or any facebook product. i'd say the same thing if i had an android. it's not about whatsapp vs imessage for me. i detest facebook and won't go near them ever again.
Seriously, though SMS needs to go away and RCS just needs to fully replace it.Meta is just one more voice against RCS![]()
iMessage is its own thing, and all iMessages are end-to-end encrypted. Even when you have iMessages in iCloud turned on.
There’s really not a need for it. Anyone concerned about security stopped using SMS loooong ago. That’s why the US carriers who were working on it stopped in 2021.Seriously, though SMS needs to go away and RCS just needs to fully replace it.
True. The actual credit should go to the original WhatsApp carriers instead of Zuck. Let’s say we are lucky that WhatsApp has maintained the e2ee and worked further for encrypting the backups. The two founders left Facebook because at that time, they were asked to compromise the encryption.The reason WhatsApp is secure and encrypted is because it was developed that way.....and then Facebook/Meta bought it. Ofcouse now that Zuck owns it, he can claim and take credit for its security.
Can he say the same thing about FB Messenger?