Spoilers Marvel’s Avengers/Infinity Stone Epic (2011-19)

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Work in Progress
Established stand alone thread. I copied this post from an Avengers Endgame thread and continuing to update it as needed.

Please advise of any blatant errors or suggested improvements.
Updates
  • 11May2020- Added Avengers Post Credit scene, the debut of Thanos.
  • 9May2020- updated Infinity Stone name list.
  • 11Apr2020- Added Soul Stone location.
  • 3Mar- Updated Thor: Ragnarok description.
  • 2Mar- Added Doctor Strange and the Time Stone.
  • 29Feb- Moved Avengers: Age of Ultron after Guardians of the Galaxy. Added Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
  • 28Feb20- Added clip from Thor (2011), to the spoiler section, showing the war between Frost Giants and Asgardians on Earth 965AD, in Scandinavia but no mention of the Tesseract (Space Stone). Based on Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) and the Stone being found in a church in Norway, it’s a presumption without further mention as to why and when, the Stone is found on Earth.
  • 28Feb- Corrected info about Captain Marvel and placed this movie in the correct sequence directly after Captain America: The First Avenger.
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The Avengers Infinity Stones/Thanos Epic
You could watch these 12 movies: (without spoilers)*

*See below for this list with spoilers.
* RTA= Rotten Tomatoes Audience Rating

  • Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)- RTA Rating: 74%. The Tesseract (Infinity Stone) is discovered in a church in Norway by WWII Nazis (Hydra).
  • Captain Marvel (2019)- RTA Rating: 48%. Captan Marvell back story. Set in 1995, Mar-Vell experiments with the Tesseract on Earth In 1989. Shield exists, Nick Fury gets to meet some aliens and starts looking for other gifted heroes to create the Avengers. Nick Fury keeps the Tesseract At the end of the movie.
  • Thor (2011) - RTA Rating: 76%. Introduces the Asgardians, Thor, Loki, tells Thor’s back story, great movie, inclepuded because these characters are central to Infinity Stone saga. A post credit scene reveals the Tesseract.
  • Avengers (2012)- RTA Rating: 91%. Loki attacks Earth to conquer it and retrieve the Tesseract for The Other who serves Thanos.
  • Thor: Dark World (2013)- RTA Rating: 76%. Introduces the Aether, a primordial object, a fluid Infinity Stone that the Dark Elves want to use to destroy the Universe and reforge it as the Dark Universe.
  • Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)- RTA Rating 92%. CAPTAIN America and Black Widow work for SHIELD. Movie features Falcon. Trouble at SHIELD. Capt America runs into several old friends. Loki’s Sceptre seen in a Post Credit Scene.
  • Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)- RTA Rating: 92%. Peter Quill finds the Power Stone (Link). Features: Peter Quill (Star Lord), Gamora, Drax, Rocket, Groot, Nebula, Yondu, The Collector, Ronin, Thanos.
  • Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)- RTA Rating: 83%. Mind Stone.
  • Doctor Strange (2016)- RTA Rating: 86%. Brilliant, but arrogant Doctor Steven Strange loses the use of his hands for surgery, but gains insight and knowledge of the Mystic Arts, fighting time bandits. Time Stone.
  • Thor: Ragnarök (2017)- Thor and Loki contend with Hella’s return to Asgard after a detour to the planet Sakaar, and the Grand Master.
  • Avengers: Infinity War (2018)- Dedicated thread link. Thanos collects Infinity Stones so he can make some changes in the Universe.
  • Avengers: End Game (2019)- Dedicated thread link. If all the time travel paradoxes don’t bother #you, a pretty good ending, except for the extraneous final big battle, just because we want you to watch one more Avengers movie. 😝
Infinity Stones locations:
  • Space Stone- Held in the Tesseract, a crystalline Cube. Asgard, Earth, Asgard. Link.
  • Reality Stone- Also called the Aether- The Collector. Link.
  • Mind Stone- Loki’s scepter Link.
  • Power Stone- Peter Quill found it. Held at Nova Corp. Link.
  • Time Stone- Doctor Strange, Earth. Link.
  • Soul Stone- Located on the planet Vormir guarded by Red Skull. Link.
Misc Marvel Movies:
  • Ant Man (2015)- Dr Pym, the Pym Particle, Dr Pym used to work for Stark Industries.
  • Captain America: Civil War (2016)- Avengers have to deal with governments who want to put them on a short chain, and by the title you can presume they are not all on the same page.
  • Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (2017)- No Infinity stones here, but an outstanding complementary story, where you get to meet Peter Quill’s Dad!
  • Ant Man and the Wasp

The 5 Movie Strategy Spoilers Galore
...and without a desire to watch every Marvel movie made, the bare bones of the Thanos story arc, and his quest to obtain all 6 infinity stones, you could watch just 3 movies, Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), where he figured prominently in the story, see Gamora’s relationship to him, and his effort to retrieve the mysterious orb Peter Quill finds (Infinity Stone). Then jump to Avengers: Infinity War to know both how he acquired his first stone (Thor explains, he got it from Xander) which was one the locations in Guardians, then onto Avengers: End Game (2019).

However, I’d throw in Captain Marvel (2019) because it shows research on the Infinity Stone and Nick Fury in his pre Shield days. And Avengers (2012) besides being the first Avenger’s movie, Thanos and his desire to retrieve the Tesseract and the invasion of Earth.





12 Infinity stone movies with spoilers: (Not every Marvel Movie with an Infinity Stone is listed)
* RTA= Rotten Tomatoes Audience Rating

  • Unconfirmed: The Tesseract was lost or was left on Earth during the war between the Asgardians and the Frost Giants that took place on Earth (965AD), and it was found or given to humans and hidden away in Norway.
This clip from Thor (2011) features the war, but
makes no mention of the Tesseract.​
  • Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)- RTA Rating: 74%. Tesseract, one of the 6 Infinity stones. Of note, the Tesseract was once held on Asgard, home of Thor, sent to Earth. The Tesseract (blue, Space Stone) is discovered in a church in Norway by Nazis (Hydra) during WWII. Captain America fights Hydra, recovers the Tesseract, but it is lost in the ocean, later found by Howard Stark. Captain America ends up asleep, (in a coma?) for 70 years.
  • Captain Marvel (2019)- RTA Rating: 48%. Movie is set in 1995. Mar-Vell experiments with the Tesseract on Earth In 1989. Shield is created. This may not make complete sense but see link. Howard Stark loaned out the Tesseract for research? Unverified. How did Mar-Vell get the Tesseract. Story of how Carol Danvers becomes Captain Marvell. A critique, Captain Marvel is so powerful, Ronin who last seen in Guardians of the Galaxy, travels to Earth to destroy it, but after watching her tear up his fleet decides to run away. Nick Fury ends up with the Tesseract after it is swallowed by his pet flerken.
    Caroll Danvers thinks she‘s Kree, but she is Human. She thinks the Skrull (shape shifters) are bad, but they are victims. Mar-Vell, is a rebel Kree living on Earth as Dr Wendy Lawson, using the Tesseract (borrowed from Tony Stark?) to develop a light speed engine to help end the Skull-Kree war, and she is planning on giving the Skrull the technology so they can move away from the Kree. The Tesseract is found on Mar-Vell’s cloaked space station in orbit around Earth. Ronin, a Kree first seen in Guardians of the Galaxy makes an appearance.
  • Thor (2011)- RTA Rating: 76%. First Thor movie, brief mention of Tesseract (not by name) in the post credit scene. This is the best Thor movie and stand alone story, and is included because these characters are central the Infinity Stone saga.

Infinity Stone (Tesseract)- Thor (2011) post credit scene.
At the end of Thor (2011), Thor breaks the bifrost with his hammer to save jotunheim. At that time Loki dropped from the bridge and gets lost in space. After that he was seen in the post credit scene of the same movie, where at this point it is presumed, he met Thanos, made a deal of some kind and is controlling Dr Selvig to get at the Tesseract that’s in the possession of Nick Fury/SHIELD.

  • Avengers (2012)- RTA Rating: 91%. Thanos wants the Tesseract from Earth and makes a deal to let Loki conquer Earth with the help of the Other’s Chitauri Army in exchange for it. Loki really breaks bad in this story. He has a special Sceptre given to him by The other. After the Avengers (Captain America, Thor, The Hulk, Iron Man, Hawkeye, and Blackwidow) in coordination with SHIELD, defeat the alien army that pours in through the Tesseract Portal built atop Stark Tower in NYC, Thor takes Loki and the Tesseract back to Asgard for safe keeping. The Scepter is unaccounted for.
Avengers Post Credit Scene
Thanos Debut
  • Thor: The Dark World (2013)- RTA Rating: 76%. Loki is locked up by Odin for his malfeasence on Earth. The convergence of the nine worlds where their boundaries merge and the dark elf Malekith wants to use the Aether (a fluid, Red Infinity Stone) to destroy the universe and create a dark uninverse. Jane, Thor’s love interest accidentally trips across the boundary of worlds and absorbs said ether, fighting and chaos ensue. Loki dies again, uh huh.​

Thor-Dark World End Credits Scene​

Aether Infinity Stone Trivia: At the end movie credits we see the Asgardians, Sif and Volstagg delivering the Aether, now contained to The Collector (Guardians of the Galaxy) for safe keeping. Volstagg says that the Tesseract is held in Asgard and it would be unwise to keep 2 infinity stones there. After they leave, The Collector says 1 down, 5 to go.
  • Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)- RTA Rating: 92%. Not required for the Infinity Stone saga, but still one heck of a good movie. Captain America and Black Widow work for SHIELD. Movie features Falcon. There’s a sinister plan for world domination a foot. Capt America runs into several old friends.
The Winter Soldier End Credit Scene
Hydra has the Scepter Loki used in The Avengers​
  • Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) RTA rating: 92%. Peter Quill finds The Power Stone. (https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Power_Stone) After a brief stop in jail, Peter, Gamora, Rocket, and Groot fly to Knowhere to sell it to The Collector. It is taken by Ronan who wants to destroy Xander. The Power Stone ends up with the Xandarian peacekeeping force, the Nova Corps for safe keeping.
  • Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) RTA rating: 83%. The Avengers attack a Hydra base to acquire Loki’s Sceptre. Stark discovers it holds an advanced AI and uses it to create an AI for his Ultron Project, when attached to hardware is designed to protect Earth. However the newly created AI gains sentience, and goes rogue. It’s plans for a metallic organic humanoid body built for itself, then wiping the Earth of human life and replacing it with metallic organic life. The Avengers get hold of his unfinished body, Stark with the help of Banner load Jarvis (Stark’s personal AI) into the body intended for Ultron, and out pops Vision a new ally. They go on to defeat Ultron. Thor, though a vision comes to understand that the gem in Loki’s Sceptre, which is now in Vision’s forehead is the Mind Stone (Link) and is ok with Vision keeping it.

    Plot Point: Black Widow and Steve Banner get close, but he flies away at the end of the movie and no-one knows where he went, to Black Widow's disappointment.
    Post credit scene: Thanos is seen picking up the Gauntlet which can hold all 6 infinity stones and saying “I’ll have to do it myself”.
  • Doctor Strange (2016)- RTA Rating: 86%. Brilliant, but arrogant Doctor Steven Strange loses the use of his hands for surgery, but gains insight and knowledge of the Mystic Arts, fighting time bandits With the Time Stone.
  • Thor: Ragnarök (2017)- RTA Rating: 87%. Dire events allows Hella to take over Asgard, while Thor and Loki take a vacation on Sakaar and meet up with the Hulk, last seen flying solo into the sunset and in stealth mode at end of Avengers: Age of Ultron. Touring Odin’s vault, among Oden’s treasures we see The Tesseract, and the Gauntlet, that she pushes off its pedestal and calls it fake. After escaping and returning to Asgard, they fight Hella and decide only the proficy of Ragnarok can defeat her. Loki in Odin’s vault, fulling the proficy of Ragnarok, walks by and notices the Tesseract. The spaceship of Asgardians refugees, lead by Thor head for Earth. In a post credit sceen, they are intercepted by a large ship.
  • Avengers: Infinity War (2018) That large ship is Thanos, beats the **** out of the Adgardians (How many survive, if any?) and kills Loki. Is he really dead this time? Thanos acquires Stones. Thor explains how Thanos got the stone by destroying Xander. The Avengers come this >< close to defeating Thanos, but close only counts in horseshoes and nukes. ;)
  • Avengers: End Game (2019) I’m disappointed with the ending, time travel issues clogging my brain. See this post. :)
Misc Marvel Movies:
  • Ant Man (2015)- Dr Pym, the Pym Particle, Dr Pym used to work for Stark Industries.
  • Captain America: Civil War (2016)- Avengers have to deal with governments who want to put them on a short chain, and by the title you can presume they are not all on the same page.
  • Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (2017)- No Infinity stones here, but an outstanding complementary story, where you get to meet Peter Quill’s Dad!
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  • 28Feb20- Added clip from Thor (2011j, to the spoiler section, showing the war between Frost Giants and Asgardians on Earth 965AD, in Scandinavia but no mention of the Tesseract (Space Stone). Based on Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) and the Stone being found in a church in Norway, it’s a presumption without further mention as to why and when, the Stone is found on Earth.
 

Huntn

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Corrected info about Captain Marvel and placed this movie in the correct sequence directly after Captain America: The First Avenger.
 

Huntn

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Holy smokes, we need to hire you for QA and documentation :D
Somewhere along the line, I finally realized there was a Marvel master plan, and that (many of these) outstanding titles were tied together. In the beginning, I was pulled in by individual titles that grabbed me like Thor and Guardians of the Galaxy. Surprisingly, I did not care for Avengers because as a rule, I prefer individual titles focused on one character, and in Avengers there was too much of an ensemble, yet we (wife and I) will probably watch it tonight for a re-evaluation. ;) ...one of the benefits of Disney Plus. :D
 

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Pulled from the Movie thread:
Captain Marvel spoilers

The reason for the low ratings has nicely been summarised in this video. I agree with pretty much everything mentioned there.


Interesting video, I watched the first ten minutes and imo, this is a case where I will disagree with its analysis. I think the author put too much thought into the theme of controlling your emotions versus letting loose. I don’t see that as a theme at all. If I was to describe a central theme, it’s a story of manipulation and self discovery. This is the story of a person, she does not necessarily have to be a woman, but that works well for me, who is abducted by the Kree and manipulated to unknowingly be on the wrong side. She spends half the movie figuring this out.

In what I would call as a nice plot twist, we the audience spend a major portion of the movie cleverly being fooled until it becomes apparent that Carrol Danvers has been manipulated and this is her story of discovering, along with the understanding who the real oppressors and victims are.

The story at first is disorienting because when this movie was released we were already acquainted with the Kree, primarily Ronin the Accuser, and Korath who figured prominently in Guardians of the Galaxy. Then we discover that Mar-Vell is Kree, so this disorientation might appear as an origin story, or maybe I’m slow on the uptake which is possible :), until it becomes clear CM is being shackled with a lie and when she finally breaks loose, it has nothing to do with the theme of controlling ones emotions, but of liberation, especially with the power she had absorbed from the Space Stone. So in essence not only was she the Kree’s tool but she was operating with one hand tied behind her back.

I like Nick Fury, the story of CM’s discovery, discovery of what is really going on, the conflict of the Skrull-Kree war, the Flurken, a story that cleverly intrigues me with the disorientation of who the Kree are as described, in what I consider to be a creative plot. And at a bare minimum, I was pulled in by the story of the Skrull oppressed and scattered around the universe and really enjoyed Ben Mendelsohn’s performance as Talos.

That said, my critique is that her discovery of her true power could have been better. She suddenly becomes aware of a control chip on the back of her head, she just pulls off and then she appears over powered almost to the point of being omnipotent physically, if she can destroy a fleet of fighters easy peasy, and fly though a massive enemy cruiser ripping it to shreds in the process and emerge unscathed, I’d ask what can stop her? 🤔
 
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