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Every iPhone since the very first one has had a significant SOC upgrade over its predecessor. While the A15 may stay at 5nm like the A14, it's hard to believe that it won't be significantly better than its predecessor (if history is any guide)
I expect that you are correct. However, I wonder how close the industry is getting towards the point of diminishing return. As in do we just hit a wall at some point in terms of performance in that size package?
 
I may not buy apple products other than iPhones / beats.
That said I buy the new top end phone every year.
Great quality.
Will pick up a 13 pro max too!
 
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I get the new iPhone every year just because the trade in value of the old phone is still high even when the differences aren’t great. Bought a 12 Pro when I didn’t really need it even though the visual changes were nice. If this phone has Touch ID, a 120hz display and a smaller notch, I don’t see how they could top the phone the year after without getting rid of the notch completely. Will be getting a 13 pro max.
 
It might just been a few weeks of jumping ahead, but those few weeks give millions in extra capacity which could either be used to slightly increase launch stock or to upgrade products that were scheduled to get last years IP.
No, it’s been planned this way month ago... tarting early just means that someone would be keeping/increasing inventory and that doesn’t happen with Apple
 
No, it’s been planned this way month ago...

Sure it has, and "WE" just found out now.

Sometimes in January Tim "Supply-Chain" Cook got a call from TSMC "Hey Timmy, we finished testing the enhanced 5mm and if you want we can switch some production lines earlier than planned".

This would be the result and it would also explain why the rumored M1X Macs didn't get released or at least announced yet.
 
I wonder if the 'M1X' will be based on the A15 chip then...

A and M series chips are not “based on” each other. They use the same core microarchitecture, but neither is the basis for the other, though one or the other may tape out first. They also use different physical designs, netlists, etc. In SoC design, you design a core for use in multiple chips, you don’t design a chip and then say “let’s make a different chip based on that chip.”
 
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Sure it has, and "WE" just found out now.

Sometimes in January Tim "Supply-Chain" Cook got a call from TSMC "Hey Timmy, we finished testing the enhanced 5mm and if you want we can switch some production lines earlier than planned".

This would be the result and it would also explain why the rumored M1X Macs didn't get released or at least announced yet.
sure, whatever ...
 
A and M series chips are not “based on” each other. They use the same core microarchitecture, but neither is the basis for the other, though one or the other may tape out first. They also use different physical designs, netlists, etc. In SoC design, you design a core for use in multiple chips, you don’t design a chip and then say “let’s make a different chip based on that chip.”
yes, and as usual, there are lots of experts here :p
 
Sure it has, and "WE" just found out now.

Sometimes in January Tim "Supply-Chain" Cook got a call from TSMC "Hey Timmy, we finished testing the enhanced 5mm and if you want we can switch some production lines earlier than planned".

This would be the result and it would also explain why the rumored M1X Macs didn't get released or at least announced yet.
There is no way that Apple would ever be that casual about their best selling flagship product. Everything about the next iPhone has been meticulously planned for years.
 
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The chip shortage was mostly because companies like auto manufacturers CANCELLED their chip orders because of the pandemic. Chip companies then focused on all the new demand for computers. But companies like Apple pay far in advance to guarantee to have components in production without hiccup. The shortage is mostly from companies that did not place the orders ahead of time and could not have foreseen the added demand.

And conversely, sometimes Apple has had to pay penalties to companies like Samsung when it did not meet order requirements for the guaranteed capacity.
 
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The entire micro-electronics industry is in disarray and Apple is managing to get it's suppliers to produce it's chips ahead of schedule? Good job Apple.
More accurately, the entire industry is in disarray because Apple (and other very large OEMs) contractually secured their supply years ago and is now getting enough supply at the expense of individual buyers and low volume OEMs. Chip makers are losing sales anyways because they can’t keep up with demand, but they might as well keep Apple happy since they pay the big bucks.
 
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It might just been a few weeks of jumping ahead, but those few weeks give millions in extra capacity which could either be used to slightly increase launch stock or to upgrade products that were scheduled to get last years IP.
60-80 days of cycle time to turn a silicon wafer into a platter full of computer chips.
at least another 30 days to test that platter and then into little black packages you recognize as actual computer chips, and test some more.
Now someone has to take that little black thing and put it on a circuit board and put THAT into a phone.

And all of that is overlooking other manufacturing realities (like an ice storm in Texas).
 
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Everything about the next iPhone has been meticulously planned for years.

You can't plan cutting edge tech years in advance and expect it to just work out. There will be delays, there will changes in markets, there will SNAFUs like the pandemic and every once in a while there will be lucky breaks.

Depending on how early you get wind of these you will want to change course and adapt, and that is the question here how early did Apple knew and what opportunities did they see in it?

For all we know it might be as simple as increasing the launch stock for the iPhones expecting high demands, maybe move launch day a week ahead or fasttrack other products.

The idea that Apple (with Tim Cook as CEO) would just ignore the possibilities to avoid having to change some plans doesn't sound very plausible to me.
 
The bionic series was a major boost in performance. When I went from an iPhone 7 Plus to a iPhone 8 Plus with bionic chip it was noticeably faster. o_O
 
there is no ahead of schedule here, it takes ~ 3 months to make them so naturally they have to start now to build the first phones.
And Apple pays big bucks to be front of line, and the chip shortage today is not so much in the very advanced nodes but in the more mature ones ...

Exactly. Stating the same thing every year, and every year everyone continue to ask and state the same thing.
 
Remember when everyone was up in arms over how their iPhone 6s’ SoC was manufactured by TSMC and not Samsung? Man times have changed.

Sure do. Our oldest is a Process Engineer with a Big Box Company. He saw this coming after the A7 processor.

He feels TSMC is 2 years ahead of Samsung at a minimum.
 
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