I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Glad somebody got the reference!
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Apple should thank the NSA (or was it FBI) for complaining that their systems were secure enough that they couldn't be accessed by government spying. You can't buy that kind of publicity.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
3) Sanitize your hand so you don't get the germs the last guy/girl had on their hands on yours.Well in the rest of the world (not America), we have this great thing called 'chip and pin'. And it's everywhere.
So the steps are:
1) take out your card
2) put your card in and type in your pin
Granted. IOS8 has been the smoothest roll-out since Vista. In opposite land.I appreciate Apple Pay will be great across the pond, but it's essentially the same process -- except your phone is your card and your pin is your fingerprint. And as iOS 8 was a steaming buggy pile I'm sure you can grant me a little cynicism.
Glad somebody got the reference!![]()
Well in the rest of the world (not America), we have this great thing called 'chip and pin'. And it's everywhere.
So the steps are:
1) take out your card
2) put your card in and type in your pin
I appreciate Apple Pay will be great across the pond, but it's essentially the same process -- except your phone is your card and your pin is your fingerprint. And as iOS 8 was a steaming buggy pile I'm sure you can grant me a little cynicism.
This +++. I was initally skeptical of Apple Pay and was blasted in the comment sections as being misinformed and out-of-touch.
We see through the PR spin that Apple Pay is 100% secure in theory. Even many large retailers are also reluctant to go all-in with it. (And they have IT experts/analysts who are much more qualified at vetting the Apple Pay business model and risks than I am.)
So I will hold off a little longer...
Where are you going with this? Some how provide a view point that is in Apple's favor that has nothing to do with the topic?And that random person would be a real, typical baseball fan? As opposed to myself, for example? Or the people in my section I see throughout the season?
Where are you going with this? Some how provide a view point that is in Apple's favor that has nothing to do with the topic?
Your diversion worked!!!I was going to ask you the same question. In fact I already have. You seem to want to characterize "real" or "typical" baseball fans in some way that implies they are not the types to use a smartphone to pay for their food and drink. But I'm not sure, and I'd prefer not to guess.
Your diversion worked!!!
You took a post literary to take it out of context to steer away from the fact that people with dirty hands/finders will most likely not be using AP.
AP is DOA. The End.
MC is really going hard in for thePay
Might be irrelevant to some - but this is going to save them billions in fraud charges - that's why these banks are so happy.
That long long time will be the end of 2015 when the laws will force all retailers to upgrade their systems![]()
What's the point of NFC if you can't pay with your phone. All other uses for NFC are just gimmicks.
kdarling said:Shoot. Everything is a gimmick until you find your own user for it. E.g.
Six Sweet Things You Can Automate With NFC
Great link. I do four of the six. Tasker is one of the greatest apps to ever exist![]()
Actually, major retailer are holding off because they are coming up with their own type of transaction network. The problem is that their idea would allow them to target buyers with ads and promotions based on their tracked spending habits. That's the whole reason major retailers are vetting on that system. They don't want Apple Pay preventing them from targeting their customers.
This is the message I got back from Discover today. I really hope this doesn't mean they're going to wait till iOS 9!!![]()
Well in the rest of the world (not America), we have this great thing called 'chip and pin'. And it's everywhere.
So the steps are:
1) take out your card
2) put your card in and type in your pin
I appreciate Apple Pay will be great across the pond, but it's essentially the same process -- except your phone is your card and your pin is your fingerprint. And as iOS 8 was a steaming buggy pile I'm sure you can grant me a little cynicism.
Chip and Pin cards are great and available in every country but the United States. However, NFC and Apple Pay is still better at least for the US.
1. In the US we have this abomination called Chip and Signature, so if you have a chip on your card it doesn't mean it will work with a Chip and PIN terminal particularly if its automated such as at a train station, etc.
2. We tend to have many credit cards and the stores tie lots of sales, benefits to that. Memorizing all of those 4 digit random numbers is difficult. I have two and need to incorporate them into my passwords to remember them. Otherwise you write them down.
3. There is a lot of confusion about randomly generated PINs and the PINs we have for our ATM cards that we set. So there is a lot of education required. Having a system that bypasses PINs and is based on biometrics is very nice and avoids this.
4. In the US, there are lots of terminals that have a slot for Chip and Pin usage but I have never, ever seen one turned on even though I have a true Chip and PIN card from USAA, one of the few banks that actually issues one. And I have used it in Europe with my randomly generated PIN.
5. The liability shift is supposed to happen in October 2015 where the merchants become liable but this has a long way to go.
6. I have used Apple Pay at Whole Foods and McDonalds, very familiar with it and Walgreens, first time for that clerk. It was very simple.
7. You don't have to get your wallet out. You also don't have to hide your pin. Unless somebody steals your phone or kidnaps you they can't replicate it.
8. There is a unique token for every transaction. This is Apple's killer feature. I hope they can license this to other manufacturers.
9. Credit cards magnetic stripes wear out and the embossed lettering gets scraped if you have multiple cards in your wallet. I have a merchant credit card that I never used to carry that is now just another entry for Apple Pay.