Up until I bought a uMBP earlier this month, I had been using a Matte 17" PowerBook for the last five years.
I strongly prefer the glassy.
I strongly prefer the glassy.
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Matte v Glossy v Glassy
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Up until I bought a uMBP earlier this month, I had been using a Matte 17" PowerBook for the last five years.
I strongly prefer the glassy.
did you buy the 17" or the 15"
The realest, truest, hardest O.G. pimp hustla gangsta hardcore mutha****az will always go with matte.
There really is no option anymore. Either you get glassy or you get aa $3000 portable machine and pay extra money.
Apple doesn't have a $3000 portable matte laptop.
The only option is to send your newly bought laptop to a repair shop (TechRestore) for fixing if you want a portable matte laptop.
I am hating on the Glassy or even Glossy screens.
I do use my laptop outside from time to time, am sitting at a desk now with windows behind me, that would cause awful glare and reflections if I wasn't working with a matte screen.
Sure the glass looks good, but it isn't functional, and I WILL NOT purchase a laptop with anything but a matte screen. I don't want a 17", and would be purchasing an MBP today if the 15" had a matte option. I mean, I'm working from a 5 year old Powerbook G4 and very ready for an upgrade. The tech restore option doesn't look very good (read the reviews and look at the pictures), so that isn't an option.
If you like the glass fine, but to argue that the glass is sufficient for most if not all of us, is ridiculous.
I do use my laptop outside from time to time, am sitting at a desk now with windows behind me, that would cause awful glare and reflections if I wasn't working with a matte screen.
Sure the glass looks good, but it isn't functional, and I WILL NOT purchase a laptop with anything but a matte screen. I don't want a 17", and would be purchasing an MBP today if the 15" had a matte option. I mean, I'm working from a 5 year old Powerbook G4 and very ready for an upgrade. The tech restore option doesn't look very good (read the reviews and look at the pictures), so that isn't an option.
If you like the glass fine, but to argue that the glass is sufficient for most if not all of us, is ridiculous.
To pretend that you know what most if not all of us need is ridiculous. Sure, matte seems to be "winning" the poll here, but does that really mean anything? Just like the far more numbers of complaint threads about MacBooks and MacBook Pros... it's because people are more motivated to complain and to voice their preference for one thing when there is another option that they hate.
In all reality (not to say that this is the case), but what's to stop me or you or 100 other people from repeatedly voting from different accounts?
We all know that the glassy screen makes reflections more of a POTENTIAL problem, but it's only a potential problem. Taking it to the next level of actually BEING a problem depends on the user... just like the matter of opinion and taste in the matter.
I don't have anything against the matte screens at all, I just prefer the glassy by far, because it is not a problem at all for me.
I did not say that I know what most if not all of us need. YOU DID.
If you said merely that it wasn't a problem for you, that would be one thing, but you don't. To be sure:
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Really? What about people stuck at a desk or in a place where they cannot reorient away from a bad reflection? Did you think about that?
How do you know what most people do or what is normal? Apparently, a lot of us do want to use our laptops outside. You imply with your statement that you seem to know what most of us do? YOU DON'T. But you accuse me of doing so, when I never made such a suggestion.
Just because I criticize your posts for assuming what most if not all of us need, does not imply that I do in return. That is a logical fallacy. Just like the opposite of hot isn't cold, but rather not hot. You know no more about what is normal than I do. But many of the people here seem to have a problem with reflections and glare that results from a glossy/glassy screen (as evidenced by their posts), and as a result are sharing our feedback from our own anecdotal experiences.
Glassy...with reservations
I just replaced my 1st-gen MBP (matte) with a Unibody MBP a couple days ago. The glassy display can be bothersome at times, but to me its worth it for the deeper blacks and better color quality. However, considering the entry price for a MBP is $2K, it would make sense for Apple to offer a matte option, even if it is a $50 option like it is for the 17". Macworld has a review for the TechRestore option and the tools they use actually damage the bezel.
http://www.macworld.com/article/138574/2009/02/techrestorembp.html
If you have the patience, it looks like the anti-glare film is a reasonable option. Good video review here:
http://www.obsessable.com/news/2009...lm-and-techrestore-matte-screen-replacements/
I just replaced my 1st-gen MBP (matte) with a Unibody MBP a couple days ago. The glassy display can be bothersome at times, but to me its worth it for the deeper blacks and better color quality. However, considering the entry price for a MBP is $2K, it would make sense for Apple to offer a matte option, even if it is a $50 option like it is for the 17". Macworld has a review for the TechRestore option and the tools they use actually damage the bezel.
http://www.macworld.com/article/138574/2009/02/techrestorembp.html
If you have the patience, it looks like the anti-glare film is a reasonable option. Good video review here:
http://www.obsessable.com/news/2009...lm-and-techrestore-matte-screen-replacements/
i use my glassy UMBP on a porch in the morning and have no problem. in the beginning i notice the glare and after about 30 seconds i dont notice it anymore until im finishing up. the human eye is designed to sense motion. if something stays static on a screen where there is motion ie scrolling, watching the mouse cursor, ect ect the eye omits the static image. it's just like watching a widescreen movie on an old tube television. you notice the black bars on the top and bottom in the beginning of the movie and then again at the end when the credits are rolling. it's the exact same thing with glare on a glossy/glassy screen.
im not trying to start more arguments about this. i have some friends that cannot stand the black bars during a wide screen movie because they say that they always notice them. i believe that it is these same ppl that have a problem with the glossy/glassy screens. i consider my self lucky that i don not have this issue.
so there it is. why i think some ppl can use glassy and why some cannot.
im not trying to start more arguments about this. i have some friends that cannot stand the black bars during a wide screen movie because they say that they always notice them. i believe that it is these same ppl that have a problem with the glossy/glassy screens. i consider my self lucky that i don not have this issue.
so there it is. why i think some ppl can use glassy and why some cannot.
Good to see this horse is still kickin!
Glassy is the best, just give it a rest sheesh lol
come on man! your not throwing in the towel?!?!
remember that moment we had in the "buying the girlfriend an expensive computer" thread. you picked up one stick and i picked up two sticks?!?! i thought we had something special?!
This is why glossy reflections drive me nuts. I mostly work with text on my screen. Never movies or animations. So the contents of my screen is static.
But the reflections move! People moving behind my back. Myself. My fingers on the keyboard. Or when I'm using the laptop near a window on the train, the reflections constantly move because the train is moving.
(This is BLINK also the BLINK reason why I BLINK BLINK hate flash ads BLINK on a web page BLINK BLOTCH BLINK I'm trying to BLINK read. The same BLINK with reflections BLINK. I Can't concentrate on BLINK what I'm BLINK doing. Maybe the BLINK MTV generation BLINK cope with it BLINK better.)
I can't use reflective screens for work.
you raise an interesting point about the generation. im in my early 20's and while i hate MTV i think people of my age are used to fast moving images and such. those .5 second cuts in those music videos are enough to give someone a seizure.
I think you can, since (like some told you), the brain automatically fix it. But i bet this "mental adjust" can produce some undesirable effect such extra stress, eyestrain and such.
My wife got my 2.4 uni mbp, and it's not a bad screen. Love the LED and the colors seem to 'pop' on it. In addition, if you turn the brightness to maximum, you can use it to tan.
Went out and got a good deal on a 2.33 mpb with the 256 ati video card. It's matte. Of the two, I PREFER the matte. It causes less eyestrain, and it's just more pleasing to my eyes. I'm not about to drive to Cupertino and light a torch or anything, it's just what I prefer.
Sidenote: I wonder if age or the user's optical health/condition have anything to do with the preferences?
I wholeheartedly agree with Scottsdale's earlier post 100%, but I don't think that any of his suggestions are going to happen. Number one is that Apple builds the computers they want to use, period. One of the earliest editors of Mad Magazine stated during an interview that they make magazines that they want to read, and hope that most people agree with their sensibilities. Apple has always marched to its own drum, and most people either love their decisions or grudgingly learn to accept them. In the long run, many of its unpopular decisions have been proven right, such as dropping floppy drives from the first iMac.
Secondly, as other people have pointed out, Apple is doing quite well with its sales and finances based upon its designs and choices, even in a down economy. I don't even remotely see Apple changing its ways concerning choices, features and prices. If Windows 7 is secure, stable and user friendly, and causes less people to go into the Apple Store, Apple MAY have to rethink some things to stay competitive.
Finally, there's a hardcore cadre of osx users who will support any decision that Apple makes, period.
Went out and got a good deal on a 2.33 mpb with the 256 ati video card. It's matte. Of the two, I PREFER the matte. It causes less eyestrain, and it's just more pleasing to my eyes. I'm not about to drive to Cupertino and light a torch or anything, it's just what I prefer.
Sidenote: I wonder if age or the user's optical health/condition have anything to do with the preferences?
I wholeheartedly agree with Scottsdale's earlier post 100%, but I don't think that any of his suggestions are going to happen. Number one is that Apple builds the computers they want to use, period. One of the earliest editors of Mad Magazine stated during an interview that they make magazines that they want to read, and hope that most people agree with their sensibilities. Apple has always marched to its own drum, and most people either love their decisions or grudgingly learn to accept them. In the long run, many of its unpopular decisions have been proven right, such as dropping floppy drives from the first iMac.
Secondly, as other people have pointed out, Apple is doing quite well with its sales and finances based upon its designs and choices, even in a down economy. I don't even remotely see Apple changing its ways concerning choices, features and prices. If Windows 7 is secure, stable and user friendly, and causes less people to go into the Apple Store, Apple MAY have to rethink some things to stay competitive.
Finally, there's a hardcore cadre of osx users who will support any decision that Apple makes, period.
so..any chance of seeing a matte option this summer/fall?
Whatever is your pref. for matte or glossy/glassy.....any idea if Apple will EVER give the consumer the OPTION to PAY them, so they can make more money....,and have a matte/glossy/glassy options?
Any take of an upcoming update to include matte option?
Come'on Apple....bring in the PAYABLE OPTIONS to your potential clients!
Make me a Mac convert!
Whatever is your pref. for matte or glossy/glassy.....any idea if Apple will EVER give the consumer the OPTION to PAY them, so they can make more money....,and have a matte/glossy/glassy options?
Any take of an upcoming update to include matte option?
Come'on Apple....bring in the PAYABLE OPTIONS to your potential clients!
Make me a Mac convert!
I won't say one way or the other until I see a better matte screen or take the time to adjust the screen at the Apple Store the day I want to buy my 17" MBP. I will state that today I went to my local Apple Store ready to buy a 17" matte MBP (thought I couldn't wait for WWDC) until I played around with it for about 1/2 hour. I brought a few photos of mine that I corrected on my iMac (matte screen and calibrated) and put them on the 17" MBP with matte screen. As I stated in another post the screen was awful compared to my iMac but to be fair the 17" matte wasn't adjusted to the same settings as my iMac. I also will say that for either screen those lights in the Apple Store, at least the one by me are terrible under the best of terms. However, the glossy screen did look nice but again I want to adjust the screens to equal or close to each other to compare when spending $$$ on something. I think if the screen was eye candy today I would be typing a different tune from a matte 17" MBP but that's ok, not the right time I guess
Add note: my gf has a new MB and so I'm use to the screen and it doesn't bother me one bit as I just want what will work for me the best and the longest.
Add note: my gf has a new MB and so I'm use to the screen and it doesn't bother me one bit as I just want what will work for me the best and the longest.
I'm well aware, but if you read the article it says the bezel is damaged on theres.
wow matte is really kicking ass. how many of you that voted matte gave in and went for the glassy?