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Which do you Prefer

  • Glassy

    Votes: 98 30.8%
  • Glossy

    Votes: 46 14.5%
  • Matte

    Votes: 174 54.7%

  • Total voters
    318
I'm a big fan of glassy, but I think its because the computer I am used to is a 2007 iMac, so I've adjusted well to glassy. When I was setting up my brothers computer, I was convinced he had a broken display, as images looked strange on it. Only when I looked at a 17" matte MBP did I realize his display was matte! I felt so stupid... but I knew hands down I wouldn't switch to matte. I can tolerate glossy, but matte makes me feel like I'm in a different, dull world. But if the 2007 iMac was matte, then I would probably not like glassy.
Regardless, Apple should make matte an option on the 15", as some people prefer it, and some people need it(creative professionals who edit on site). I think Apple will cater to this though, as its just a spot to milk out more money(if I'm correct, then it costs less to make a matte screen, as there is no glass), which Apple likes. Just my 2¢.
SG :apple:
 
matte for me. i bought the 15 inch unibody when they first came out and went through a couple of them (because upon opening them most of them had debris under the screen or some other defect) and then when i did get one which was perfect about 3 weeks later somehow there was dust under the screen.

so i waited for the 17 inch unibody, got it the first day it hit the apple store over here. the next morning noticed a speck of dust was under the screen, don't knwo how it appeared there so i exchanged it for the matte and haven't looked back since.

Glossy is great but it attracts or rather makes dust a lot more apparent when it gets on the screen (and i'm talking about just even if it is the tiniest bit) than the matte and it seems because of the way the glossy is manufactured there is a chance of dust appearing in between the glass and the screen.
 
What you can control is the direction you face your laptop...and also your screen's angle. If you can't make it work for you, and if it really causes you THAT much pain, then I don't think the laptop is at fault.

Like I said before, I also use mine in various places with various lighting conditions... although I can't say that I use my computer out "in the sun" like you...Do many people do that?

I just hate to see people get discouraged about anything by haters...especially when there are many fans of that thing.
Not every screen type is for every person. Check them all out and find out what is best for YOU.
If I used my laptop outside in the sun a lot, then it might be a problem.
Since I consider the outside as being for outdoor activities, reflections are not a problem for me.

I find that the glass screen makes the image quality delicious...
MMMmmmmm it looks so sexxxy.

OK this post is completely crazy.

In answer to your question, do I use my computer in the sun?:
No because I have a glossy screen and the reflections suck, but if I had a matte screen then I would, quite often. The other guy is completely right and your answer to "just change the light/tilt your screen/look the other way" is bogus. Tilting the screen doesn't work, changing the light is impossible in a cafe or park, and facing the other way is also impossible if the chair across from at your table is occupied. Since the technology exists to prevent these problems, it is not hating to express the preference for it.
 
OK this post is completely crazy.

In answer to your question, do I use my computer in the sun?:
No because I have a glossy screen and the reflections suck, but if I had a matte screen then I would, quite often. The other guy is completely right and your answer to "just change the light/tilt your screen/look the other way" is bogus. Tilting the screen doesn't work, changing the light is impossible in a cafe or park, and facing the other way is also impossible if the chair across from at your table is occupied. Since the technology exists to prevent these problems, it is not hating to express the preference for it.

im not saying that im agreeing with NickM but i usually have pretty good success tilting my screen down. it's not the best choice but if there is a light source behind me it works ok.
 
This is why glossy reflections drive me nuts. I mostly work with text on my screen. Never movies or animations. So the contents of my screen is static.

But the reflections move! People moving behind my back. Myself. My fingers on the keyboard. Or when I'm using the laptop near a window on the train, the reflections constantly move because the train is moving.

these are my thoughts on the issue. The screens look great for lost of things,but for typing, im not so sure!
 
Very OT....

in the words of Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks "Can't we all just get along."

altho right after that they kill him so we'll see what happens.

That line was loosely taken from Rodney King's TV speech to the public during the 1992 L.A. riots:

"People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along? Can we stop making it, making it horrible for the older people and the kids?...It’s just not right. It’s not right. It’s not, it’s not going to change anything. We’ll, we’ll get our justice....Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to work it out."
 
That line was loosely taken from Rodney King's TV speech to the public during the 1992 L.A. riots:

"People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along? Can we stop making it, making it horrible for the older people and the kids?...It’s just not right. It’s not right. It’s not, it’s not going to change anything. We’ll, we’ll get our justice....Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to work it out."

I can see that and sadly that line didnt work out to well for him either.

how many of you think (not hope) that we will see a matte option for the 15" after the WWDC?
 
It doesn't matter to me, and so there's no poll question that fits that.

I used to be a steadfast matte display proponent but with the unibody MBP that's on my desk, I've changed my mind. That being the case, I like both the glassy and matte displays.
 
Glare (Glossy) Vs. Non-Glare (Matte)

There is more misinformation about the merits and limitations of glossy versus matte displays than any other topic in notebook computing. Let’s start with the basics that everyone agrees with: glossy screens have more vivid color and contrast while matte screens are better at rejecting reflections from ambient light.

A matte LCD display has an anti-glare coating and waffled surface that diffuses and scatters ambient light. This minimizes the reflections that occur, but as a result, the screen can be easier to read across a wider range of environments. The scatter of the light has its own consequences. Diffused light from ambient light as well as the backlight will lighten the black tone and make the screen surface look hazy and washed out.

A glossy screen does not use any diffusion at all. Instead, a standard polarizer allows light to freely pass through the filter. Since there is no scatter of the backlight, colors are more intense and accurate, and blacks are also deeper. However, the lack of ambient light diffusion means that surrounding light can result in noticeable reflections.

In controlled lighting environments, there is very little difference in color accuracy between the two types of monitors when using a colorimeter. In uncontrolled lighting, the glossy screen has better color accuracy except for the parts of the screen with bright reflections. The matte screen has less of a difference in the image, but has poorer color accuracy due to the diffusion of the light producing haze over a larger area.

Fans of matte displays can point out that top-of-the-line desktop monitors for digital photography such as the HP DreamColor LP2480zx or Eizo ColorEdge CG301W are matte designs. Again, given that color quality is dependent on the LCD panel and backlighting technology more than the polarizer, monitors such as the LP2480zx are arguably among the best of the best. On the other hand, fans of glossy displays can point out that flagship digital mammography displays such as the Eizo RadiForce GS520 are designed with glossy screens because the superior sharpness (MTF) over matte screens allows radiologists to better detect more subtle changes in the breast and identify breast cancer at earlier stages.

So, when it’s comes to making a life or death decision, glossy wins.

Clearly, it would have been nice if Apple continued to give users the option for glossy or matte screens depending on their anticipated work environments. However, in the interest of saving money and reducing inventory expenses, Apple chose to go glossy. In the previous generation, glossy screens were outselling matte screens by a factor of 10 to 1.
THG, 1/26/09, review uMB
 
Screen Comparisons

This technical site seems to answer the question rather well:

http://www.screentekinc.com/pixelbright-lcds.shtml#advantages

So I guess the question is, What exactly are the screens in each of the MBPs? The description Mac uses is a little unclear - at least to me.

What exactly is a "backlit glossy widescreen display"?

Can these backlit glossy screens be repolarized?

Perhaps some knowledgeable person could clear that up.

:)
 
This technical site seems to answer the question rather well:

http://www.screentekinc.com/pixelbright-lcds.shtml#advantages

So I guess the question is, What exactly are the screens in each of the MBPs? The description Mac uses is a little unclear - at least to me.

What exactly is a "backlit glossy widescreen display"?

Can these backlit glossy screens be repolarized?

Perhaps some knowledgeable person could clear that up.

:)

according to some ppl on this forum the matte screens are exactly the same as the glassy screens just with out the piece of glass in front of them. could be wrong about that tho.
 
Well I bought a 17" MBP with glossy even though I like matte. The glossy doesn't bother me as I've been using my girlfriends 13" MB (unibody) and became used to the screen since posting last in this thread. I'm in a position though where a ton of light doesn't hammer on the screen and give me glare as it does to some.
I think that even if I were to have bought a MBP w/matte I still would have bought one of those "hood/lid covers" to close off light to the best it could if I needed to work outside using live view with my camera or adjust things near a strong light source.
I can say I'm very happy with my 17" MBP glossy decision. My iMac has been great to me and it's calibrated very well with the matte screen so anything newer would be looked at under heavy criticism no matter which I bought or if I buy an external display latter for the extra space using Blender.
So maybe a neutral vote cast here and now for the poll but I just wanted to update the thread now that a 17" has a new home :D
 
Matte is where it's at!

I had been using a 1st generation 15" MBP that I picked up in April of 06 (I think that's right. Feel free to correct me.) It has the matte screen.

I use it everywhere. I needed/wanted a new machine since the aforementioned Mac had become the house computer and I'm about to need one for school. This is a Master's program. I am a full time student (which has been nice) and I go to school 8 hours a day. I love it.

So, I played with the MBPs for months. I'd go to the Apple store, I'd ask others if I could putz around with their machines (Mac users are a great group). I simply came to the conclusion that I had to have a matte screen, again. Also, the brightness of the new MBP far, far exceeds that of the 1st gen machines. I was willing to buy a new 15" and pay to have the screen changed to a matte screen by a third party.

But something happened on the way to heaven. Apple gave us a bunch of cookies but then took away our milk. The 15" machines lost the Express Card 34 slot. I'm sorry Apple: That's downright stupid and greedy. But then they lowered the price of the new machines, reduced even further for students and threw in a iPod touch. All is forgiven.

I ordered a 17" Matte with 3 GHz processor and the 500 GB drive. I am considering a move that will remove the optical drive and put in another 500 GB drive that I will use in a striped RAID and then double the hard drve speed. I'm still thinking about that one.

But all that to say that I am a really big fan of the matte screen. So much so that if an Express Card was on the 15, I'd be all over it. Right after I shipped to someone to "fix" the screen. I have no desire to stare at myself all day ;)

BTW, my machine showed up today. It doesn't feel "huge". Bigger for sure but manageable. Another thing I like about the matte screen is the aluminum bezel. I think the black bezel (while necessary) is just as distracting as the reflections.
 
Matte all the way

In retrospect, I can't even believe that I even pondered the choice between matte and glassy when I was first choosing my unibody 17". It was my first major computer purchase in years and I wanted to make sure that I made the right decision. I went with the matte and never regretted it. It is a truly beautiful machine. Besides the screen I love the silver bezel. I find it more aesthetically pleasing. When I first saw pics of it, the slim black trim around the bezel worried me, but in person it looks great. Overall it has the classic macbook pro look but with enough changes to make it a departure from the previous design.

As I mentioned in another thread, I hope they eventually offer the matte option for their other machines. I hope to get a smaller laptop for traveling in the future, but after using my beautiful matte it would be hard to go to a 'glassy' machine (though I could tolerate the more subtle glossy of the macbook air).
 
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