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I received the package today and just got around to opening it. I can confirm that it came with a ML retail box. I'm extremely disappointed and a little upset. Almost 3 weeks after Mavericks release and I still receive a box with ML on it.

Please (the community) do not give me a lecture. If this isn't important to you, great. It is for me.

I will be calling apple and see if I can get one shipped once they're ready.

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Believe it or not, people may associate it with 6 year old machine then.

It's very clear your not joking you seem to be wound a like tight.

Save the receipt and a copy of the Apple care record, a simple check of the SN on the Apple support will clear up when it was sold.

:D
 
It's very clear your not joking you seem to be wound a like tight.

Save the receipt and a copy of the Apple care record, a simple check of the SN on the Apple support will clear up when it was sold.

:D

It was rather annoying after getting my time machine restored to have install mavericks. Was it hard? No. Just something that should've been avoided out of the box.
 
Ok folks, so no big surprise here either. I got a Mountain Lion box and I can only presume that Mountain Lion is pre-loaded on this machine.

Before I open the box I'd like to know one thing. If I were to do a clean install of Mavericks, would the Internet Recovery and Recovery Partition still be Mountain Lion? If so, I think I'd rather return this one and wait it out. If not, I'm fine and I'll proceed with checking this new machine out. To me, it's not about the box. It's about what goes on this system (without tying it to my Apple ID) when I sell it 3 years from now.
 
Ok folks, so no big surprise here either. I got a Mountain Lion box and I can only presume that Mountain Lion is pre-loaded on this machine.

Before I open the box I'd like to know one thing. If I were to do a clean install of Mavericks, would the Internet Recovery and Recovery Partition still be Mountain Lion? If so, I think I'd rather return this one and wait it out. If not, I'm fine and I'll proceed with checking this new machine out. To me, it's not about the box. It's about what goes on this system (without tying it to my Apple ID) when I sell it 3 years from now.

I'm very frustrated with this as you can see by my posts above. I just updated to 10.9 and the recovery says that it'll install 10.9. I cannot confirm that it will, but it says it does.

I'm having some other issues with the software (not a clean install) right now that is really bothering me.
 
I'm very frustrated with this as you can see by my posts above. I just updated to 10.9 and the recovery says that it'll install 10.9. I cannot confirm that it will, but it says it does.

I'm having some other issues with the software (not a clean install) right now that is really bothering me.

Oh hey… you're up late too. :)

Was that for Internet Recovery or for a Recovery Partition on your SSD?

What other issues are you having?
 
Oh hey… you're up late too. :)

Was that for Internet Recovery or for a Recovery Partition on your SSD?

What other issues are you having?

Haha yeah I am! My girl friend has been over all night and kept me away from my new machine ;)

That's a good question. I believe it was the recovery partition on my SSD. If that's the case. The internet recover will probably be 10.8.

Here's my thread for my current issue:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1669859/
 
Ok folks, so no big surprise here either. I got a Mountain Lion box and I can only presume that Mountain Lion is pre-loaded on this machine.

Before I open the box I'd like to know one thing. If I were to do a clean install of Mavericks, would the Internet Recovery and Recovery Partition still be Mountain Lion? If so, I think I'd rather return this one and wait it out. If not, I'm fine and I'll proceed with checking this new machine out. To me, it's not about the box. It's about what goes on this system (without tying it to my Apple ID) when I sell it 3 years from now.

Internet Recovery boots from system firmware and downloads the OS that came from the factory with the machine. So if you do Internet Recovery and erase the drive then reinstall, you will always Mountain Lion even after you have installed Mavericks. When you run Internet Recovery Apple's servers will see that your machine's serial number came with Mountain Lion and that is what you will get.

Recovery from the recovery partition will always give you whatever version of the OS matches the recovery partition. So for example, if you have a Mountain Lion version recovery partition on there, you will get a Mountain Lion install. If you upgrade to Mavs, that will put a Mavs recovery partition on there and subsequent recovery partition reinstalls will give you Mavs.
 
Internet Recovery boots from system firmware and downloads the OS that came from the factory with the machine. So if you do Internet Recovery and erase the drive then reinstall, you will always Mountain Lion even after you have installed Mavericks. When you run Internet Recovery Apple's servers will see that your machine's serial number came with Mountain Lion and that is what you will get.

Recovery from the recovery partition will always give you whatever version of the OS matches the recovery partition. So for example, if you have a Mountain Lion version recovery partition on there, you will get a Mountain Lion install. If you upgrade to Mavs, that will put a Mavs recovery partition on there and subsequent recovery partition reinstalls will give you Mavs.

Thanks again Weaselboy! I see you replied to my questions on both threads. :)
 
I wanted to bring this thread up to the top again. Has anyone bought an iMac since the last posting and can share if Mavericks was pre-installed or not?

I am going to buy an iMac this Wednesday... It's not a standard configuration, I will upgrade the top 27" model to 3TB Fusion Drive. I hope that this configuration will be specifically built for me and will therefore come in the Mavericks box with Mavericks installed.

It's so mysterious, I haven't seen any picture so far of the iMac in that new Mavericks box.
 
I wanted to bring this thread up to the top again. Has anyone bought an iMac since the last posting and can share if Mavericks was pre-installed or not?

I am going to buy an iMac this Wednesday... It's not a standard configuration, I will upgrade the top 27" model to 3TB Fusion Drive. I hope that this configuration will be specifically built for me and will therefore come in the Mavericks box with Mavericks installed.

It's so mysterious, I haven't seen any picture so far of the iMac in that new Mavericks box.

Once someone confirms they got it. I will call apple and make an argument to send me a mavericks box, whether they think I'm crazy or not.
 
Once someone confirms they got it. I will call apple and make an argument to send me a mavericks box, whether they think I'm crazy or not.

As I said, I have ordered the iMac today and I will definitely inform you all in this thread if it was shipped in the new Mavericks box or not when I receive it next week.

Can you then please also keep us up to date if you managed to convince Apple to send you a new box? :-D I'm really interested if Apple will do this.
 
As I said, I have ordered the iMac today and I will definitely inform you all in this thread if it was shipped in the new Mavericks box or not when I receive it next week.

Can you then please also keep us up to date if you managed to convince Apple to send you a new box? :-D I'm really interested if Apple will do this.

Yes, I will let you know how the call goes. I simply need the initial confirmation that the iMac's are finally being shipped in Mavericks boxes.
 
BTO iMac 27" arrived today, it was built last Friday and shipped from CA. It came with Mountain Lion.

Damn, how long can it take to make a Maverick image.... my guess is there is an update on the horizon and they're wait for that release to make the image.

How is the display?
 
My replacement BTO iMac 27" arrived today and it had Mountain Lin 10.8.4.

The display is much better than the one I got last week with my other (defect) iMac. It is more bright and sharp. I would like though to wait a couple of days before judging it...
My late 2013 iMac arrived a week ago and after a day a vertical pink line appeared. Apple replaced my imac and the replacement arrived today.
 
how long did shipping take for you to receive the replacement?

Last week on Wednesday I called Apple support to let them know about the screen issue. The new order went on Wednesday afternoon live. The original order was with express delivery.
Apple originally said that my order would be handled with priority. Since this is a BTO iMac Apple needs 1-3 business days. In the online order status tool I could see that my new iMac would get delivered between 11-13 November, but somehow I had a bad feeling about it. The order status didn't change at all for many days, so I decided to write to my Apple support contact, which told me that my iMac would get send on last Monday, so I would get it on Tuesday. This didn't happen for unknown reasons. Instead I got an email from Apple that my order will get delayed! So much for priority handling...I was angry, so I wrote an email to Tim Cook explaining him the situation. Apple didn't keep its promise to deliver with priority and between November 11th - 13th. Yesterday I got a cal from Apple customer relations regarding my mail to Tim Cook! My iMac arrived today morning, and Apple even arranged to that UPS delivers at 9am, something that I confirmed with UPS! It was a special kind of express delivery!
Apple will also give me 100€ credit for my troubles.

It's sad that I had to contact Tim Cook to get any results, but having said that, I am sure I would get my Mac today anyway, but not at 9am.

Something else I noticed is that my Mac has a much brighter display and not only that, it is much sharper than the one on the defect iMac. (Which Apple of course told me to keep till the replacement comes).
Unfortunately. I haven't found a way to verify the screen manufacturer, since the terminal command doesn't return anything on this model...
 
Question for those who just got theirs with mavericks. Is the box a picture with mountain lion or mavericks?

This may be unimportant to some, but I think it'll add to the resale value later down the road.

I ordered mine today with a delivery date of the 8-12.

Not to toot my own horn here, but I do a lot of buying and selling of used Macs, some times for me, but more frequently for others. The OS depicted on the box literally does nothing to the resale value. Anyone who cares what OS is on it also cares what OS the model ORIGINALLY RELEASED with; which, Mavericks in tow or not, is still Mountain Lion.

You do want Mavericks to be on the box though, but not so you can have a box to resell it with; most people trash their Mac boxes. Sad; ill-advised, but true. The reason why you do want Mavericks on the box is that this is the damn-near sure-fire indicator of which OS comes pre-installed; and while you can do a fresh re-installation of Mavericks either via a Thumb Drive made from the Mac App Store installer or via the 10.9 recovery partition, the version of Internet Recovery will remain the version of the OS that it shipped with. Even this is more or less unimportant, especially if a clean-install of Mavericks just works. Still though, I think having the Internet recovery boot to Mavericks is far more validating of the OS that came in tow than the picture on the box, though the two are correlated.

I had figured that with Apple making Mavericks free and declaring that future versions of Mac OS would also be free, they'd use that as an opportunity to standardize Internet recovery across all machines that have it in tow in their respective EFI firmware as any Mac with Internet Recovery is also compatible with and capable of installing Mavericks. But Apple appears to have not gone that route.

Does it matter? It's free to install and fairly painless, especially on a brand new machine with nothing yet installed on it.

I can understand the concern, but again, only in terms of what OS my Mac boots to via Internet Recovery when my hard drive takes a dump. Otherwise, downloading, making a bootable thumb drive of, and then wiping and installing Mavericks is an irritating waste of time versus just hitting the ground running with it and that IS made more annoying with a Fusion Drive than with just a hard drive or just an SSD. But aside from time and the potential fusion annoyance, when all is said and done, using the iMac will be the same.

Clean install Mavericks http://justinseeley.com/tutorials/clean-install-mac-os-x-mavericks/

Although i'm not sure if it creates the recovery partition. Previous betas did not but not sure if it has been fixed with the current release

My box and so resale value is the old 10.8

Mavericks does make the 10.9 Recovery Partition. Similarly, if you install via a thumb drive made from the installer using Apple's new command line tool for making bootable Mavericks installer thumb drives, that will also make the 10.9 recovery partition. I'm pretty sure that all other non-standard installations (such as making a DVD that functions like the recovery partition) will not. There's a really great Macworld article online that goes into the reinstallation and making-a-bootable-install-drive options and how they differ from Lion/Mountain Lion.

My point is, old enough for 10.8 and it wasn't what I ordered. For some, this is a lot of money to spent and to not get what you paid for feels a little crappy when you've been putting away money every month for a few years and waiting it out until 10.9 came along :(

You didn't wait long enough! Had you asked, you could've found this out!

The only machines that will come pre-loaded with Mavericks on Day 1 are the machines that launched alongside it. This was the case in 2011 with Lion and the Mid 2011 Mac minis and MacBook Airs. For all other pre-existing models, it usually takes 1-2 months for Apple to modify whatever pre-installation techniques/tools they have for the new OS.

im planning on getting a 2013 refurb as soon as they become available (prob in about a month). do you think ill be getting one in a mavericks box?

Odds are it'll come with Mountain Lion preloaded. Refurbs tend to take longer to come with a newer OS if they ever do at all. As for the box, I'm seconding Bear's comment below". If you do not have the iWork apps in tow, there is an up-to-date program that you can sign up for that'll give you free codes for the new iWork apps on the Mac App Store.

It'll be in a plain white refurb box.

It's not really the problem of installing mavericks over mountain lion. I just don't want a box with ML on it.

Can anyone confirm having ML installed but still receiving a Mavericks box?

That's kind of silly. As your machine ages, no one who will try to buy your machine from you will care about which OS it came with; if anything, it coming with an earlier OS allows for greater flexibility as to what can be installed on it. Having a newer version of the OS for Internet Recovery is where having Mavericks preloaded (and thusly a Mavericks box) matters; but if it's just about how the box looks, there's nothing functional that you get from the newer box.

The box goes in a closet, does it really matter what's on the box?

Again, which version of Internet Recovery comes in tow matters; otherwise the only difference that matters is whether or not you have to clean install Mavericks.

It certainly can be a small deterrent for the resale value, given the age of ML.

Nope. Completely wrong here. If you have a Late 2013 iMac, that's all anyone will care about. The generation of the machine doesn't change just because the OS it is preloaded with does.

Once someone confirms they got it. I will call apple and make an argument to send me a mavericks box, whether they think I'm crazy or not.

I'd return the machine along with it as the box doesn't matter. But even then, if you don't care about which OS is initially in tow and which OS Internet Recovery boots to, then it REALLY doesn't matter.
 
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The reason why I'm asking is because I have place an order for my 1st iMac. I placed the order on Tuesday 11/12 and its stuck on ''Proccessing Order status'' for the past two days. You I should also write a letter to Tim Cook or should I wait.
 
Something else I noticed is that my Mac has a much brighter display and not only that, it is much sharper than the one on the defect iMac. (Which Apple of course told me to keep till the replacement comes).
Unfortunately. I haven't found a way to verify the screen manufacturer, since the terminal command doesn't return anything on this model...

I have tried this command on several iMacs now. The one I have at home and 3 more at the Apple store today. All of them failed to show any output. I'm guessing they changed the way the data is stored so it would take someone with an understand of that (not me) to get us a different command that works.

Did you notice any yellowing or other discoloration on the new iMac?
 
I have tried this command on several iMacs now. The one I have at home and 3 more at the Apple store today. All of them failed to show any output. I'm guessing they changed the way the data is stored so it would take someone with an understand of that (not me) to get us a different command that works.

Did you notice any yellowing or other discoloration on the new iMac?

Nothing. The display seems perfect.
 
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