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Why do you mix old designs with new ones? Have the laptops be uniform.
Price? Apple has been releasing better models and keeping a cheaper 'older design' model for literally decades.

Honestly I might pick up a refurb M1 MacBook Air for my nephew since it's still a good deal for the power it offers.
 
Price? Apple has been releasing better models and keeping a cheaper 'older design' model for literally decades.

Honestly I might pick up a refurb M1 MacBook Air for my nephew since it's still a good deal for the power it offers.
When Apple changes the design of the iPhone, the redesigned ones are sold for the same price the previous generation ones were sold for. The difference is, all of the models are sold with the new design - from the iPhone Mini to the Pro Max.

Apple doesn't apply the same concept to the MacBook lineup. It's nice that there's more pro models out there, don't get me wrong, but Apple should have introduced a redesigned Air and Pro for the same price and specs as the previous generation to replace the old design.
 
I'm not an artist..should definitely start with that and while I had a Pencil 1 and 2, I stopped using them because they never got any use.

I've had a iPad since the 1st generation and moved 11" Pro 2018 to 13" 2021 M1 Pro as a laptop replacement. The transition was slow then sudden where for many years I had a 15/16" MBP in my backpack + iPad Pro with keyboard and an iPhone and I'd consume on iPad, create on MacBook

Then I started doing 10-15K miles of motorcycle travel per year where I had to bring just one and the iPad had less moving parts and was smaller so I started traveling with that begrudgingly but then...trackpad support + Magic Keyboard was released and that put me on the iPad Pro as the default mobile choice and MBP only when creating content (photo/video editing)

My day job is a project manager so with Atlassian, Omni, Office 365, Adobe apps, I can do all of my work on an iPad Pro w/ trackpad that pays the bills. I can even import photos into it via my Canon 5D or GoPro and do some dailies for social media but mostly, I Just need to be on a trip or away from the office and be able to respond to an email in Outlook or approve a time sheet or review a document and sign / edit so iPad Pro IS my only workstation now. I sold my M1 MacBook Pro and Core i9 MacBook Pro recently because I wasn't using them anymore.

My plan, no matter what Apple did was to work 90% on my iMac, 9% on my iPad Pro and 1% on iPhone and that's my division. With these new machines, I will wait to see what Apple does with next iMac and if the performance is identical and sustained w/ thermal limits to today's MBP announcement, I'll end up replacing my iMac with a MBP 16" and then I'll have everything I need

1. Amazingly fast office computer
2. Mobile workhorse
3. iPhone for everything else.

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If software on iPadOS gets better, I may one day be able to do more content creation on the iPad Pro which is why I bought a 512GB model but I just don't see that happening in a way that is as good as what the Mac can do.
My job is similar to yours in terms of software used, I do do some sketching/whiteboarding however… If iPadOS had better pro software/multi user support, or ideally allowed dualbooting into macOS I could probably go all in on a iPad Pro.
 
It's about $4k for a decent spec with M1 Max. Is anyone actually going to buy one with an M1 Pro chip?

I sure did. I don't need a 32 core GPU, I have a 6900XT in my Windows desktop that far outperforms it, and no need for mobile GPU power (and even then, my desktop is a Mini-ITX build in a tiny case with a handle, bringing it somewhere is very easy).

I just wanted a 16" for screen space.
 
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Well shoot. Might go down to 14”! Currently on a 15” MBP and going down 1” for something closer to the old 13” sounds quite appealing.
 
Back in the old days when I worked in the Ad/MKT Industry I would love to get this Maxed out... Today I can afford to buy dozens of these nearing my retirement if I wanted to, but the passion is gone and I'm almost retired, no more traveling LOL. But this is definitely the best MacBook Pro to me. Now if the iMac has the M1 Max Super duper one, I would snap that one up when I'm fully retired in a year or so!
 
I’ve always been a MBP user. However, with these new MBPs, I have to say these are definitely for professionals, not your average joe who just wants a MBP. If you’re not a legit professional or creative, i feel like you shouldn’t be buying these noteboois, in my opinion.

Alas, i just know some 18 year old at his or her local community college, is going to have a maxed out 2021 MBP…

I find there are a lot of pretentious people in this thread. Don't apply your own priorities or circumstances to others.

Others can buy whatever they want to buy. The comments in this thread are no different from someone saying "That Tesla Model S Plaid is definitely for professionals, not for the average joe who just wants a car. If you're not a race car driver, I feel like you shouldn't be buying that car."
 
I almost understand the storage prices - a premium 4TB ssd is a grand, but the RAM price is just absurd.
 
I guess the way to roughly think about the M1, M1 Pro, and M1 Max is to think of them like the Intel i5, i7, and i9. Maybe they will be M1 Extreme or something similar that will be a xeon counterpart for the Mac Pro and iMac Pro.
 
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Why is this nonsense take always regurgitated in every thread?

Only factor that determines whether or not this "seems" expensive is how much disposable income one has; that's it! Nothing else!

Pro just means professional, it doesn't mean you spend money on things that don't have the right value proposition.
Here is a person that does not understand ROI
 
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If you are a Pro or an iOS Developer... Just from a productivity standpoint, a top of the line M1 Max will pay for itself in a month or two!
By that logic Apple should be charging twice the price as it will pay for itself in three to four months time.
 
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Here is a person that does not understand ROI
If we only made purchases based on ROI a lot of businesses would go under. A sizable portion of our economy is driven simply by want. Need and value do have a place, but they aren't as removed from the influence of our taste and preferences as we like to pretend they are.

On one end of the spectrum a $6,000 mobile workstation is a disposable commodity that will generate an exponential amount of income in its short lifespan before being replaced with a machine only slightly better. On the other end its a once-a-decade investment that will be used for years past its practical lifespan simply because of sunk cost mentality. In the middle, its a general purpose tool that people enjoy using because of aesthetics or particular features, but will likely be replaced before it ever performs sub-optimally for the tasks at hand simply because a newer model will be perceived as more appealing and desirable.
 
I sure did. I don't need a 32 core GPU, I have a 6900XT in my Windows desktop that far outperforms it, and no need for mobile GPU power (and even then, my desktop is a Mini-ITX build in a tiny case with a handle, bringing it somewhere is very easy).

I just wanted a 16" for screen space.
Nice. My way of thinking is these chips are going to see huge advancements over the next few years. So it wouldn't hurt to max it out now to keep current a little longer.
 
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