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May 18th? G5 Updates?

oldpismo said:
Firstly, it is always dodgy accusing people of lying, as it is unlikely that any individual knows everything. As it happens I have had my Dell Latitude D600 for a few months now. The spec is as follows according to the dell.co.uk web site

Up to Intel ® Pentium ® M processor 745 (1.80GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 400Mhz FSB and 855GME chipset)
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Yeah, that "Intel® Pentium® M Processor 745 (1.80 GHz, 2MB L2 Cache)" is a new part, so I'd love to hear how you got one a few months ago. They didn't exist commercially until last week, when the revised chips were released. There are a couple ways I can tell, and one of those is the 7xx naming scheme, and the other is the fact that it's over 1.7ghz. Also, if you click on the Customize tab and go to "Help Me Choose," you come up with a chart that shows I'm right. Centrino 735, 745, and 755 processors all have 2MB of L2 cache, which is a Dothan refinement.

So, rather than calling me "dodgy," how about we hear how you acquired a laptop "months" before it was available?

Then the other point that I made was that I am fully expecting to have the iMac remodelled to improve the ventillation, and would not mind if it was bigger than the current model to compensate.

Also, spending quite alot of time in Japan, I am aware of how well things can be designed to minimise the size and increase the performance. It's a difficult problem I will admit, but one that I believe that the people at apple can solve. They are after all some of the best in the world at it.
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As I said... The iMac might be possible if the form factor is revised, but it won't be nearly as small as it is now. There's too much heat to dissipate and expecting something even remotely the same is a recipe for disappointment.

I have faith in Apple's engineers, as well, but I don't believe that they're going to break the laws of physics.

AL-FAMOUS said:
firstly i have not said that they have revised the imac at all secondly i have no restrictions about talking about my restrictions thirdly please dont mention my child whilst speaking to me as you have no idea of my finacial situation ( what i took from you saying "for your childs sake" ) i have no need for a job... i do it because it is a passion
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In order: You've said that you have special knowledge that somehow makes you more right than me, and that this applies to the iMac. That's pretty NDA0implying and borderline revealing. If you have no need for a job, then why is there any restriction on your posting ability, since you gave it as a reason for not being able to reply more fully? Also, if you don't want me to mention that I fear for your child's financial security, don't bring him or her up as a part of the argument.

and however much you harp on about not being able to cool it or fit it in is going to change that it will in my opinion stay nearly the same
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Have you ever met a poster named Dont Hurt Me? I think you two would get along.

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As a footnote, I'm kind of sick at the moment, so if I'm coming across as more of an ass than normal, I'm sorry. I'm logging off the computer and taking a nap now.
 
thatwendigo said:
If Apple doesn't at least partly update the line at WWDC, I think we'llwe'll be in some serious trouble as a user group. This is a window of opportunity the likes of which they haven't had since before Microsoft managed to market their way into dominance. I believe we'll at least get announcements of new PowerMacs, and I'm thinking that we really need at least a rollout of new models or a hard timeframe of when they're coming.

Anything else, and there really will be a serious reason for people to jump ship.



What am I "sure" about? That's difficult, since I'm dwelling in the nebulous field of industry standards, competitor's specs, and other things that could easily impact the Apple line. I've done a couple of lists, constantly revising them, for what I think should by put in the PowerMacs, and a few others where I've speculated about what we might see.

Let's divide this two ways:

Almost-Certain Updates
  1. Revised 970fx processors up to at least 2.6ghz with commensurate FSB
  2. Better graphics cards (9800XT or similar) with a possible bump at the low end (GeForce FX 5600 Ultra or ATI 9600 Pro) for towers
  3. SATA RAID controllers
  4. 8x SuperDrives
  5. A fix for the audio noise issues.

Things I Would Like To See
  1. 975 dual-cores in dual-processor motherboards using full HyperTransport, clocking at 2.6, 3.0, and 3.4 ghz. They will hopefully have the on-die memory controller and high speed interconnect between processing units, along with SMT. This would afford Apple's pro users a line of towers with 8 processors as far as the system is concerned.
  2. Move to PC4200 dual-channel RAM.
  3. Adopt the ATI x800 PCI-Extreme card as top-end, while adding PCI-Extreme and keeping AGP 8x for legacy cards.
  4. The reappearance of the Quadro FX, FireGL, and Wildcat graphics cards for pro users. In tests where the G5 is getting beaten, it tends to be the GPU that does it.
  5. Solving the reported PCI incompatibilities.
  6. Offer 10000RPM SATA RAID as standard on at least the top tower, BTO on the lower ones.
  7. 12x SuperDrives
  8. Kill the iMac and offer a real tower in its place, using single processors instead of the now all-dual pro line.
  9. Use of the FreeScale e600 in the PowerBooks, rather than the G5. For the love of God, use the e600 instead.
  10. OS X 10.3.5 - Optimized for SMT, using XCC instead of GCC, and only available for the G5.
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Actually you do quite well at reinforcing my wish list, only you are a bit
too strongly worded in how you express your rebutals.

We DO agree that Apple SHOULD have the best selection of pro parts in the industry.

I also do appreciate that you are more aware of specific upgrades coming into the picture and would like to see those improvements as well.
Including better audio support.

As far as preventing duplication of OSX for use in unauthorized machines,

If I told you I'd have to kill you! :)
 
I don't blame Genie at all, she is a very lovely nice young lady! ;)

FFTT Listed under "Things I Would Like To See" #10 are you hoping for and OS X that uses the 64 bit?
 
wdlove said:
FFTT Listed under "Things I Would Like To See" #10 are you hoping for and OS X that uses the 64 bit?
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Actually, that's my list, and I'm not expecting there to be much, if any, benefit to changing OS X to a 64-bit system for a while yet. It's still not common to go above 4GB of RAM and consumers aren't using 64-bit math, so there really wouldn't be much of a reason for it yet.

Instead, hardware optimizations specific to the G5 (or other chips, if you pat attention to the rest of my wants list) seem more appropriate.
 
Just had it comfirmed by Apple UK - Powermacs are being upgraded 18th May!!. This was the reason for the delay on my CTO Powermac.
The guy I spoke to wouldn't give me the new specs but told me I would recieve a email later today giving me the new specs. Can't wait to see the new specs are. I would love to see a dual 3Ghz but I'm happy with any upgrade.
:D
 
Digitalzoom said:
Just had it comfirmed by Apple UK - Powermacs are being upgraded 18th May!!. This was the reason for the delay on my CTO Powermac.
The guy I spoke to wouldn't give me the new specs but told me I would recieve a email later today giving me the new specs. Can't wait to see the new specs are. I would love to see a dual 3Ghz but I'm happy with any upgrade.
:D
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are you lying???
 
Digitalzoom said:
Just had it comfirmed by Apple UK - Powermacs are being upgraded 18th May!!. This was the reason for the delay on my CTO Powermac.
The guy I spoke to wouldn't give me the new specs but told me I would recieve a email later today giving me the new specs. Can't wait to see the new specs are. I would love to see a dual 3Ghz but I'm happy with any upgrade.
:D
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SO DID YOU GET THIS EMAIL?????
 
AL-FAMOUS said:
SO DID YOU GET THIS EMAIL?????
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I doubt that he will be able to tell, he may have a non disclosure agreement. We have less than 24 hours now to find out. At least we know for sure that we will get another free song!
 
I have had a email cancelling my original order along witha new order number - but the new order number brings up jack when I enter into Apple's order tracking system.
I'd be peeved if they were not updated after what the guy told me this morning.
As soon as I get any more info I'll post it here.
 
Updates tomorrow? Probably not

Less than 24 hours to go. Interestingly, now new rumours have appeared since the intial May 18th one. My guess still is that we'll have to wait until WWDC. But I woulnd't mind if were to be proved wrong in a few hours. :)
 
I find it very hard to believe that the Apple operator would say anything like this. Especially quoting an actual date. It just doesn't seem to fit. I'm not saying he didn't say this, but it's just hard to believe. What were his exact words??
 
Digitalzoom said:
I have had a email cancelling my original order along witha new order number - but the new order number brings up jack when I enter into Apple's order tracking system.
I'd be peeved if they were not updated after what the guy told me this morning.
As soon as I get any more info I'll post it here.
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By new order # you mean something like M9020LL/A (thats the G5 1.6 order number in the USA btw)?

If you have a new neverseen before order number, we may be getting into something...
 
I call foul, on two counts. The first is that I find it extremely unlikely that Apple would pre-announce through email what they haven't even called press for. MacRumors has traditionally been pretty decent at noting when Apple sends out invitations to the news agencies to show up for a product announcement and I've not seen anything about this. Most likely he's being upgraded to the next highest model due to wait over the one he ordered, as I've heard of such things happening for particularly hard-to-fill or botched orders in the past. Perhaps the poster who claims his upgrade could sanitize his email of any identifying information and post it here, so that we could see for ourselves what Apple has to say.

Secondly, I was at my local reseller today, and there was no sign of change or of new materials and they've been pretty good about getting things as soon as possible. The workers were all casually discussing the rumors with me, and they all agreed that the most likely course of action is that we'll see some kind of update at WWDC. While this is hardly a conclusive point, the only marked-down inventory were portables that are now a generation back.
 
Talking to an apple operator, I was told that they usually don't find out till 5 minutes prior. She said she's in the dark just like the rest of us. Not sure if this is the truth or not.
 
Johnkb said:
Talking to an apple operator, I was told that they usually don't find out till 5 minutes prior. She said she's in the dark just like the rest of us. Not sure if this is the truth or not.
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Thats my understanding as well. Resellers here in Oz for example were completely suprised by the emac upgrade earlier this year and Apple A were non the wiser...
 
sebaz said:
By new order # you mean something like M9020LL/A (thats the G5 1.6 order number in the USA btw)?

If you have a new neverseen before order number, we may be getting into something...
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That's not an order number, that's a part number or model number.
 
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