AL-FAMOUS said:
i am saying that the imac from a marketing point of veiw (something you cannot come to grips with) is not an option to have its a must
Let me try this again...
Marketing can't make physics go away. I understand
perfectly what you're saying about the iMac needing more power, but that doesn't change things like convection and wattage.
you post on here and expect people to take your word as fact then give opinions... im not sure who you think you are exactly, but i am bound by contract not to speak about some of the things you post about (if you know what i mean) otherwise i would be able to make you look very small indeed, although i think you will do this for yourself as soon as the new i mac is unvailed,
please lets not get into a flaming match, but i cant apose your points in the way i would like to
I never claimed that my position was more than opinion,
when it is opinion. I link to facts, link to stories, and other ways of backing my positions. The MPC7447A runs at 11-12 watts at peak. That is fact. The 970fx runs at 25-30 watts at peak. That is fact. The current G4 iMac formfactor is designed with the MPC74xx series in mind, uses a lower graphics card, and doesn't have a whole lot of room for allowing passive cooling. That is fact.
I'm not impressed by claims of NDAs, because you don't even link to things that aren't covered by them. This is backpedalling and if you were restricted by one that would prevent you from talking, you'd also be restricted from mentioning the fact. Even implying that Apple has a revised iMac on the line (as you are) is probably a violation if it has anything to do with your work.
In other words: I either hope your bosses never find this board (for your child's sake), or I know that you're lying.
oldpismo said:
Well, I know that living rooms in the states are a lot bigger than those over here in the UK and europe, and having a tower in the room is not practical on both a space and a asthetics point of view, I know, I tried it with my current one which is smaller than the G4 tower and the wife just didn't accept it 🙁
Well, yeah, but it's not Apple's fault if your wife doesn't play along.
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I also don't agree that you can't get the power in the space, as at the moment at work I have a 1.8 MHz centrino laptop (yes I know different power chipset etc) but it is alot smaller in volume than an iMac, and there should be room to increase the processor and allow plenty of space for ventillation. I would like to point out that I am not opposed for a redesign in the case, possible making a bit bigger (though not too big) as I do realize that the current model may not have room inside it.
People don't seem to get that I'm saying the G5 iMac just isn't going to fit into the current form factor, and that a redesign will take much better airflow to achieve the size. Also, unless you
just bought that Centrino last week, I know that you're lying. The clock on Penitum-M systems was 1.7ghz until the Dothans were released, and the only ones I've seen in a product are IBM's Thinkpad t42s, and those are at 2.0ghz.
Just as a side note, the Centrino 1.7ghz 130nm part (which is possibly what you meant to say you had) runs at 30-35w at peak, but scales down below 10w when it's at idle. That's why it can go in a laptop, but the 970 or 970fx will still be a problem even in desktop machines. If IBM releases a new chip that we haven't heard about, one that has better power management, then I can see a revised iMac. In fact, if we're getting the 975s and they have PowerTune and other refinements, then we might very well see one in a modified enclosure.
My objection is to the ridiculousness of people's wants, not to existence of an "iMac G5." If it's going to be done, it needs to be done right, not as a crappy sop to "marketing."
