May I ask, why do people keep make comments that 4/4.5 screen is LARGE? Its the same.

[cyks]

In real life do you only choose to hold things that are 4.5 x 2.3?

Do you stray away from holding things of different sizes because that size is the optimal size of things to hold in the human hand?

ITS A BIGGER SCREEN!

It will also be thinner...

Glad you are so dense that you can't understand that different people have different preferences than you. What you think is a minor change can be a big one to others.... and have to resort to making outrageous claims and exaggerations to try to prove your point.

In your first post, you claimed that there is barely a difference and since then you have gone on about how a bigger screen outweighs any size difference.

That is YOUR opinion. Not everyone shares it.

The fact is that some people like the current size, some would like it to be 4", and some like it even larger. Regardless, there is a noticeable difference in any of them.

In your subject you asked a question... yet have repeatedly denounced any answers that didn't match your preferences.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Glad you are so dense that you can't understand that different people have different preferences than you. What you think is a minor change can be a big one to others.... and have to resort to making outrageous claims and exaggerations to try to prove your point.

In your first post, you claimed that there is barely a difference and since then you have gone on about how a bigger screen outweighs any size difference.

That is YOUR opinion. Not everyone shares it.

The fact is that some people like the current size, some would like it to be 4", and some like it even larger. Regardless, there is a noticeable difference in any of them.

In your subject you asked a question... yet have repeatedly denounced any answers that didn't match your preferences.

I already debunked your logic in post #12

The concept of "not everyone likes the same things as you" or "different people have different opinions" is trite and low-brow. A useless stalemate.

Duh, everyone has various opinions. Duh!

Bobby goes further than that and asks "WHY do people have various opinions, what information can be derived from the patterns behind these various choices, and what conclusions grounded in sound reasoning and critical thinking can be extrapolated from such patterns?"

 

[Kyotoma]

I already debunked your logic in post #12

The concept of "not everyone likes the same things as you" or "different people have different opinions" is trite and low-brow. A useless stalemate.

Duh, everyone has various opinions. Duh!

Bobby goes further than that and asks "WHY do people have various opinions, what information can be derived from the patterns behind these various choices, and what conclusions grounded in sound reasoning and critical thinking can be extrapolated from such patterns?"

"Houston, we have a problem. This guy next to me is...well, talking in the third person, sir, and frankly it's creeping me out. Roger that, I got duck tape."

 

[cyks]

I already debunked your logic in post #12

The concept of "not everyone likes the same things as you" or "different people have different opinions" is trite and low-brow. A useless stalemate.

Duh, everyone has various opinions. Duh!

Bobby goes further than that and asks "WHY do people have various opinions, what information can be derived from the patterns behind these various choices, and what conclusions grounded in sound reasoning and critical thinking can be extrapolated from such patterns?"

Thinking and patterns...because different people can't possibly have different sized hands or pockets.

 

[joefarrell86]

I already debunked your logic in post #12

The concept of "not everyone likes the same things as you" or "different people have different opinions" is trite and low-brow. A useless stalemate.

Duh, everyone has various opinions. Duh!

Bobby goes further than that and asks "WHY do people have various opinions, what information can be derived from the patterns behind these various choices, and what conclusions grounded in sound reasoning and critical thinking can be extrapolated from such patterns?"

Wait. Did you just refer to yourself in the third person?

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Wait. Did you just refer to yourself in the third person?

Oh did I?

Must have slipped out...

 

[mikelegacy]

4.5 is huge. I have countless friends who have 4.5" phones. Way too big.

4" is perfect.

 

[Schweitzer]

you realize its like the same overall size in your pocket and hand right?

lol

Top thread.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

4.5 is huge. I have countless friends who have 4.5" phones. Way too big.

4" is perfect.

Ok Kyotoma said to compare side by side the 3.5, the 4, and the 4.5. Right? (This is a valid notion that the 4.5 is perhaps a significant size increase)

The reason I put it in italics is because look at it like this:

Try this test:

Set the iPhone down on the desk. Now pick it up. Now put it in your pocket. Now take it out and play with it.

Wait 5 minutes

Do the same with the 4 inch.

Wait 5 minutes

Now do the same with the 4.5 inch.

Was each experience fundamentally any different?

If one were to rate the difficulty of putting it in your pocket as easy, medium, or hard, would the different models really get different ratings? Would any of the logistics really change?

All I am saying is its in the same ballpark on a general level of usability. Its a thin flat square. It will slide into the same pocket and will be held by the same amount of fingers. Overall its the same thing. I have played with bigger phones and the only thing I couldn't stand was the visible pixels of the screen and the build quality. I don't remember fondling with it and feeling any sense of annoyance or anxiety about the size.

Some people even have cases they put on the phone that makes it way huger and that is common.

Don't forget the assumption that Apple build quality and aesthetics shall be nicer than a comparably sized Droid so that helps too.

 

[tjb1]

Sorry Bobby, neither my hand or pocket is retarded...they both know the difference between 4" and 4.5". No other way to justify it.

 

[brodas]

Apple will not make a 4.5" iPhone, I wish they would but they won't I think they are going to introduce a 4-4.3" display and that should be good enough for another 4 to 5 years

 

[TM WAZZA]

If you want a 4.5" phone, go buy an Android. Have fun with your brick.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Sorry Bobby, neither my hand or pocket is retarded...they both know the difference between 4" and 4.5". No other way to justify it.

I know you can tell the difference and I know you are making the choice to decide that its "too big"

I am saying that decision that its supposedly too big, the act of deciding its too big is what is retar.... uh... illogical

(please don't use the R word)

 

[Geckotek]

We all make decisions based on our own experiences. It doesn't matter if you think it's illogical or not. What you think means squat. I too owned all the old PDAs and smartphones. I too wanted a big screen on my PDAs. But when I got a converged device, I realized I wanted smaller. The smaller the better. That way it would be easier for me to have on my person at all times without having to compromise too many things such as comfort or style of my clothing. So you see for me, my decision is completely logical. I don't give a flying (explitive) if you agree or think it's illogical.

Edit: I agree, don't use the R word...it's offensive.

 

[cyks]

I know you can tell the difference and I know you are making the choice to decide that its "too big"

I am saying that decision that it is supposedly too big is what is retar.... uh... illogical

(please don't use the R word)

If you don't want us to use it, you probably shouldn't have used it yourself.

Either way, it's your decision and unwavering idiotic stance that's illogical.

As has been said repeatedly, not all hands and pockets are created equally. It doesn't have to be a choice that it's is too big, something can simply be physically too big.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

If you don't want us to use it, you probably shouldn't have used it yourself.

Either way, it's your decision and unwavering idiotic stance that's illogical.

As has been said repeatedly, not all hands and pockets are created equally. It doesn't have to be a choice that it's is too big, something can simply be physically too big.

So you're saying that everyone that makes comments like "I hope they don't make the screen bigger, I like it now" all have small hands and pockets?

Nah, its more complicated than that.

That phenomenon is what this thread refers to. Those people and the reasons behind their parochial stance of "less is more" applied in the wrong scenario.

 

[cyks]

So you're saying that everyone that makes comments like "I hope they don't make the screen bigger, I like it now" all have small hands and pockets?

Nah, its more complicated than that.

That phenomenon is what this thread refers to. Those people and the reasons behind their parochial stance of "less is more" applied in the wrong scenario.

No. I never said everyone, nor do I talk in absolutes. You do.

You've consistently proclaimed your opinion as fact or that two different measurements are somehow equal... all while ignoring or contesting any logical reasons people have to disagree with you.

Of course, your true colors shine through perfectly when you refer to yourself in the 3rd person and have to resort to momma jokes.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

No. I never said everyone, nor do I talk in absolutes. You do.

You've consistently proclaimed your opinion as fact or that two different measurements are somehow equal... all while ignoring or contesting any logical reasons people have to disagree with you.

Of course, your true colors shine through perfectly when you refer to yourself in the 3rd person and have to resort to momma jokes.

When did I ignore any logical reason? I talked about the battery life, talked about the size and the pros and cons. I even gave a reasonable psychological breakdown of why the people think what they think...

 

[Geckotek]

I even gave a reasonable psychological breakdown of why the people think what they think...

Yes, from a perspective that makes them wrong and you right.

 

[AnthonyHarris]

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While there may be a 'psychological' explanation to the choices we make, I fear that it isn't nearly as complicated as Bobby thinks it is. Many of the Droid handsets I have seen and used are far more uncomfortable for me to hold and use with one hand and I have very long fingers. I like the grip I have when holding the current iPhone, and even though the size of the device is only likely to grow by several millimetres in width if a bigger screen is added, i think it will make a difference to my own personal comfort while holding it. Of course, no such device (4"+ iPhone) currently exists, so the real judgement will be reserved until it does but personal preference and my experience of other large handsets will prevail over Bobby's argument... !

 

[boss.king]

This thread put a smile on my face.

Even though I want a bigger screen, I'm not narrow-minded enough to assume it's suitable for everyone. Even if people have bigger hands they may just have a preference for a smaller phone. It's completely subjective.

 

[greytmom]

Bobby goes further than that and asks "WHY do people have various opinions, what information can be derived from the patterns behind these various choices, and what conclusions grounded in sound reasoning and critical thinking can be extrapolated from such patterns?"

Man, you are too young to be this pompous. I bet you got picked on a lot in school.

 

[Geckotek]

This thread put a smile on my face.

Even though I want a bigger screen, I'm not narrow-minded enough to assume it's suitable for everyone. Even if people have bigger hands they may just have a preference for a smaller phone. It's completely subjective.

Funny thing is this, this forum tends to lean toward the larger screens. But this guy has just upset everyone in his approach. I rarely see negative scores on people requesting larger screens.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Yes, from a perspective that makes them wrong and you right.

You're just a hater.

This thread put a smile on my face.

Even though I want a bigger screen, I'm not narrow-minded enough to assume it's suitable for everyone. Even if people have bigger hands they may just have a preference for a smaller phone. It's completely subjective.

Yeah but even subjectiveness can be analyzed and commented upon. Its not enough to say you prefer a smaller phone. You have to say you prefer it at the expense of more screen real estate - which is a weirdly misguided choice - and I have commented on the reason I feel people make this odd choice and take this odd, unpopular stance.

Man, you are too young to be this pompous. I bet you got picked on a lot in school.

Its always the same usual suspects isn't it? I don't remember how many times i have intellectually vanquished you in the past, but haters crop up and attack me out of the blue quite often.

Funny thing is this, this forum tends to lean toward the larger screens. But this guy has just upset everyone in his approach. I rarely see negative scores on people requesting larger screens.

Hater alert ^

I don't really wish to speak to you. You're just a hater, like the people who vote down posts negatively, which lets other people know I am saying something real because you guys can't handle the truth.

 

[JReinn]

Dude chill out. You say "haters, haters, haters" but you act like you hate anyone who is trying to debate this thread with you..

Anyway, I too would like a larger screen, but nothing larger than 4". I like the screen as it is now, and a small increase would be perfect. Whenever I look at my 3,5" iPhone screen and compare it to an old Nokia phone, I see the difference, and think that the screen size is good enough.

Bigger screen results in worse battery life, and that is the main reason to why I don't want a screen that is larger than 4".

Peace