May I ask, why do people keep make comments that 4/4.5 screen is LARGE? Its the same.

[Robby S]

Wow, all that hating coming from a guy who thinks that a 4" screen and a 4.5" screen is the same... Yeah, I get it, it is perfectly feasible to have two phones be the same overall physical size and have different sized screens, but that wasn't exactly how the thread title articulated it.

The thing is, it's not so much the height of the phone that's the issue, it's the width. Assuming all things equal regarding bezel, a 4.5" screen on an Android will result in a narrower phone compared to an iPhone with a 4.5" screen due to the different aspect ratios. Maybe not by much, but I have held a GSII and despite it being thin (does not always mean more comfortable) it just felt too big for me. So, I really do not want an iPhone with a 4.5" screen, but 4"...yeah, should be OK.

It's interesting you going on about people not wanting screen estate, but you fail to acknowledge that screen estate mainly relates to resolution, not physical size. Sure, a 4.5" 960 x 640 screen might be easier to use than a 3.5" 960 x 640 screen, but both fit exactly the same amount of information on screen.

Do you always call people haters when they have a differing opinion to you?

 

[nutmac]

The thing is, it's not so much the height of the phone that's the issue, it's the width. Assuming all things equal regarding bezel, a 4.5" screen on an Android will result in a narrower phone compared to an iPhone with a 4.5" screen due to the different aspect ratios. Maybe not by much, but I have held a GSII and despite it being thin (does not always mean more comfortable) it just felt too big for me. So, I really do not want an iPhone with a 4.5" screen, but 4"...yeah, should be OK.

It's interesting you going on about people not wanting screen estate, but you fail to acknowledge that screen estate mainly relates to resolution, not physical size. Sure, a 4.5" 960 x 640 screen might be easier to use than a 3.5" 960 x 640 screen, but both fit exactly the same amount of information on screen.

Apple will not change pixel density (PPI) on future iPhones, as to maintain perfect backward compatibility with existing apps. That is, any UI widgets on iPhone 4 apps measuring 1-inch wide should measure 1-inch wide on future iPhones. FYI, iPhone 4 has 326 PPI.

3 scenarios

1. iPhone can accommodate larger screen without increasing the physical dimension. For instance, if the screen becomes edge-to-edge on the front surface (with 0.05" bezel), it could accommodate screen as large as 4.95" diagonal and still maintain current iPhone 4's physical dimension. Screen resolution will be roughly 1435x750 at 326 PPI.
2. More realistically, if future iPhones were to adopt cinematic 16x9 aspect ratio with 1280x720 resolution, the largest possible screen size will be about 4.5" at 326 PPI. It will still leave some room (about 0.25" above and below the screen) for ear speaker, front facing camera, and smaller home button.
3. If future iPhone keeps iPhone 4's horizontal resolution at 640 pixels and increase only the vertical (1138 is 16x9 aspect ratio), the screen size becomes 4" with 326 PPI.

 

[greytmom]

Its always the same usual suspects isn't it? I don't remember how many times i have intellectually vanquished you in the past, but haters crop up and attack me out of the blue quite often.

LOL. I can help you with that number. It's zero.

Dude. You talk about how many "haters" target you on a regular basis. Usually that's an indication that it's not them... it's you.

 

[204353]

You have to say you prefer it at the expense of more screen real estate - which is a weirdly misguided choice - and I have commented on the reason I feel people make this odd choice and take this odd, unpopular stance.

How the heck is preferring a smaller phone (with a smaller screen) over a larger one (with a larger screen) a 'weirdly misguided choice'? That's just offensive.

You feel that people choosing smaller phones are making an "odd choice and take this odd, unpopular stance"? Again, that sounds pretty offensive. You're essentially saying that people who believe that a smaller device is more suited to their own preferences are 'weirdly misguided' and 'odd'. Just think about what you're saying for a minute.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and there's certainly no need to be disrespectful about them when they're different to your own.

 

[baypharm]

Look at the phone, its so beautiful

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Thats not bad at all

Yeah PhotoShop works wonders....

 

[Robby S]

1. iPhone can accommodate larger screen without increasing the physical dimension. For instance, if the screen becomes edge-to-edge on the front surface (with 0.05" bezel), it could accommodate screen as large as 4.95" diagonal and still maintain current iPhone 4's physical dimension. Screen resolution will be roughly 1435x750 at 326 PPI.
2. More realistically, if future iPhones were to adopt cinematic 16x9 aspect ratio with 1280x720 resolution, the largest possible screen size will be about 4.5" at 326 PPI. It will still leave some room (about 0.25" above and below the screen) for ear speaker, front facing camera, and smaller home button.
3. If future iPhone keeps iPhone 4's horizontal resolution at 640 pixels and increase only the vertical (1138 is 16x9 aspect ratio), the screen size becomes 4" with 326 PPI.

All fair enough, but I wasn't talking about pixel density, I was just saying how the aspect ratio of the screen has a direct impact on the width of the device. iPhone has adopted a 3:2 ratio, which results in a wider phone, and it's width that makes or breaks how it feels in the hand.

 

[204353]

Apple will not change pixel density (PPI) on future iPhones, as to maintain perfect backward compatibility with existing apps. That is, any UI widgets on iPhone 4 apps measuring 1-inch wide should measure 1-inch wide on future iPhones. FYI, iPhone 4 has 326 PPI.

3 scenarios

1. iPhone can accommodate larger screen without increasing the physical dimension. For instance, if the screen becomes edge-to-edge on the front surface (with 0.05" bezel), it could accommodate screen as large as 4.95" diagonal and still maintain current iPhone 4's physical dimension. Screen resolution will be roughly 1435x750 at 326 PPI.
2. More realistically, if future iPhones were to adopt cinematic 16x9 aspect ratio with 1280x720 resolution, the largest possible screen size will be about 4.5" at 326 PPI. It will still leave some room (about 0.25" above and below the screen) for ear speaker, front facing camera, and smaller home button.
3. If future iPhone keeps iPhone 4's horizontal resolution at 640 pixels and increase only the vertical (1138 is 16x9 aspect ratio), the screen size becomes 4" with 326 PPI.

Sorry, but changing the resolution would give developers a lot more headaches than simply increasing the display size a little. Moving from 3.5" to, say, 3.7 or 4" would increase the physical size of on-screen elements only slightly, and certainly wouldn't require apps to be redesigned. If anything, it would make it easier to touch the smaller buttons etc. with greater accuracy.

It's very unlikely that Apple will introduce a new phone resolution at this stage.

 

[ckurt25]

Sorry, but changing the resolution would give developers a lot more headaches than simply increasing the display size a little. Moving from 3.5" to, say, 3.7 or 4" would increase the physical size of on-screen elements only slightly, and certainly wouldn't require apps to be redesigned. If anything, it would make it easier to touch the smaller buttons etc. with greater accuracy.

It's very unlikely that Apple will introduce a new phone resolution at this stage.

If they did introduce a new resolution it would end up being something that is easily scaled so that it would be the developers option to update thier art / layout or just leave it as is.

 

[204353]

If they did introduce a new resolution it would end up being something that is easily scaled so that it would be the developers option to update thier art / layout or just leave it as is.

Yeah, although unlikely, they'd probably do something like that if a new resolution were introduced. When Apple does make a significant change, they usually make the transition as easy to cope with as possible (e.g. PowerPC to Intel).