MBP 13" LCD Model Difference Tracking

[ronin4848]

9cbd is by far the best so far.

9c9f or 9cbd which one is better?

By all reports and personal trial and error the 9CBD is the clear winner when compared to all the various screens mentioned on this thread. 9CBD looks amazing out of the box and even better after calibration. Wide gamut, super bright, and incredibly black blacks.

 

[iPhanatic]

9CBD Here

By all reports and personal trial and error the 9CBD is the clear winner when compared to all the various screens mentioned on this thread. 9CBD looks amazing out of the box and even better after calibration. Wide gamut, super bright, and incredibly black blacks.

I concur!

 

[m0no]

9c9e here

display is on a custom built (so 6 days ago) MBP straight from shanghai

This is by far the best laptop screen ive ever had

I got a MBP yesterday with this same screen with a Sept. manufacturing date from Shanghai as well. Do you notice any purplish blues or any other issues? On websites, such as google links, I find that blues are dark and don't look purple, but when using the top bar in OSX such as the search, it seems quite purple to me compared to a late-2008 macbook. Perhaps because of the wider gamut?

I'm not sure what to make of it, yet. I guess I'll try to compare it to another macbook pro with a different screen.

 

[truciet]

Purchased 2 mbp 13" and both had 9CBD screens! We're happy with it

 

[farmermac]

I got a MBP yesterday with this same screen with a Sept. manufacturing date from Shanghai as well. Do you notice any purplish blues or any other issues? On websites, such as google links, I find that blues are dark and don't look purple, but when using the top bar in OSX such as the search, it seems quite purple to me compared to a late-2008 macbook. Perhaps because of the wider gamut?

I'm not sure what to make of it, yet. I guess I'll try to compare it to another macbook pro with a different screen.

Im not that perceptive. It looks fine.

 

[kangoulai]

No idea

Here is my profile. Honestly I have no idea if I have to calibrate my display. But it seems that everything looks fine for me, blue, red, green, yellow, black and white.

I purchased the New MBP 13", 2.52GHz, 4GB DDR3. there is a month, France but shipped from Shangai/China.

-----------------------------------------------------
------------------- MAIN EDID BLOCK -----------------
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EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........40860 (9F9C) (9C9F)
Serial Number.......00000000

Manufactured........Week 3 of year 2009
Max H Size..........29 cm
Max V Size..........18 cm
Gamma...............2.20

Color info:
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Red x = 0.000 Green x = 0.000 Blue x = 0.000 White x = 0.312
Red y = 0.000 Green y = 0.000 Blue y = 0.000 White y = 0.328


Descriptor #2 - ASCII data:
LP133WX3-TLA1

 

[lumpi]

Alright, I got a 9C9E first, after a replacement (not because of the screen, had a slight vibration issue), I got a 9C9F.

9C9E - Good blacks, very bright. Good vertical viewing angles. Colors seem to get too glaring (the lower the brightness, the more natural they look). After installing one of those Spyder calibrations someone had posted so kindly (they turned out to be the best after several tries), I got the best balance. Blues still go into purples too quickly. Skin tones shift towards yellow at highlights. I also got that strange effect of the google-link blue text appearing totally purple while scrolling down - weird! Most importantly, though, I got comparably bad horizontal viewing angles. Those affect each eye individually, resulting in a subtle, shimmering "hologram-effect". It's as if your eye can't focus on the surface. I first thought it's just a glossy screen reflection issue... until I got:

9C9F - The Apple Screen Hardware Lottery jackpot! Less bright, worse vertical viewing angles (shifts towards yellow more quickly), a slight brightness bleed at the bottom half... but I don't care. This screen is damn-near perfect. After installing the calibration profile from here ( Ncx5-Spyder-Pro.icc.zip , a little cold, but excellent balance) I got colors rivaling my trusty CRT. Also the screen is much nicer to simply look at. Natural skin tones, smoother gradients. Suddenly the glossy screen seems less of an issue, too, somehow.

Anyway... both screens are miles above the 2008 models. Most people wouldn't notice the difference, even though I'm picky, I wouldn't have returned the 9c9e just for the screen alone. But I can definitely say that there simply isn't much a laptop LCD screen could do the 9c9f doesn't. Great screen!

 

[ronin4848]

Wrong

Alright, I got a 9C9E first, after a replacement (not because of the screen, had a slight vibration issue), I got a 9C9F.

9C9E - Good blacks, very bright. Good vertical viewing angles. Colors seem to get too glaring (the lower the brightness, the more natural they look). After installing one of those Spyder calibrations someone had posted so kindly (they turned out to be the best after several tries), I got the best balance. Blues still go into purples too quickly. Skin tones shift towards yellow at highlights. I also got that strange effect of the google-link blue text appearing totally purple while scrolling down - weird! Most importantly, though, I got comparably bad horizontal viewing angles. Those affect each eye individually, resulting in a subtle, shimmering "hologram-effect". It's as if your eye can't focus on the surface. I first thought it's just a glossy screen reflection issue... until I got:

9C9F - The Apple Screen Hardware Lottery jackpot! Less bright, worse vertical viewing angles (shifts towards yellow more quickly), a slight brightness bleed at the bottom half... but I don't care. This screen is damn-near perfect. After installing the calibration profile from here ( Ncx5-Spyder-Pro.icc.zip , a little cold, but excellent balance) I got colors rivaling my trusty CRT. Also the screen is much nicer to simply look at. Natural skin tones, smoother gradients. Suddenly the glossy screen seems less of an issue, too, somehow.

Anyway... both screens are miles above the 2008 models. Most people wouldn't notice the difference, even though I'm picky, I wouldn't have returned the 9c9e just for the screen alone. But I can definitely say that there simply isn't much a laptop LCD screen could do the 9c9f doesn't. Great screen!

You say the 9C9F is less bright, yellow, bleeds, and has worse vertical viewing angle and you call this winning the lottery? I have to disagree. I initially got the 9C9F and felt like I lost the lottery!

I got the 9C9F and my brother got one with a 9CBD. No matter how we tweaked the profiles and compared them, the 9CBD was clearly the winner (as most posts here seem to confirm). Deeper blacks, better contrast, higher max brightness, richer colors, no bleed with the 9CBD. I was within 14 days and swapped mine and ate the restocking fee. It was luck but I got a 9CBD and it looks amazing and is super bright.

P.S. Even viewing angles look better/larger on the 9CBD.

 

[lumpi]

You say the 9C9F is less bright, yellow, bleeds, and has worse vertical viewing angle and you call this winning the lottery? I have to disagree. I initially got the 9C9F and felt like I lost the lottery!

I got the 9C9F and my brother got one with a 9CBD.. No matter how we tweaked the profiles and compared them, the 9CBD was clearly the winner (as most posts here seem to confirm). Deeper blacks, better contrast, higher max brightness, richer colors, no bleed with the 9CBD. I was within 14 days and swapped mine and ate the restocking fee. It was luck but I got a 9CBD and it looks amazing and is super bright.

P.S. Even viewing angles look better/larger on the 9CBD.

Oh, thanks for taking a dump on my excitement.

I find the 9CBD to be nearly identical, except being a little brighter (which was never an issue for me). In fact, I heard it seems to be just a different version of the model (same manufacturer, etc.)

See, I'm mostly comparing to my previous 9C9E, which, to me, was overbright and oversaturated. The yellow in the 9C9F is simply that viewing angle distortion color (which is a little different for every screen), I don't see it at all when looking at it from any normal angle. Blacks are still pretty damn black, the "bleeding" is barely noticeable and more of soft shimmer you see after staring at a pitch black screen at night for 5 minutes,... incomparable to the white glow at the bottom end of the 9C9E.

I grant you the jackpot, though. Now I want to punch whoever is responsible for Apples "screen lottery" hardware policy in the face again. Seriously, for a 1000+€ laptop, you could expect 100% consistent quality.

 

[kingflupps]

9CBD here! I had to return my first 13" MBP coz it had severe backlight bleed. I don't know what model it was but the whites seemed whiter and the colors more rich.

The colors on this 9CBD look awesome but only on the last 3 bars brightness. The previous display was definitely a lot brighter. I've tried all sorts of profiles and done my own with super-cal but I can't seem to get the same pop the previous screen had. I took the last one to the local apple store and they swapped it immediately. I called them up saying the replacement seemed dimmer and they've given me a "genius" appointment to compare it to the other ones in the store. To be honest the colors are fine it's just this slight yellowy tint on the white thats doing my head in but then again maybe I'm being too over analytical. I read somewhere that because of the silly in-store calibrations on screens these days we are used to white with too much blue in it so 'real' white can often look off. Just strange that I can get the colors I want but only on the last 3 brightness. I've taken a screen shot of my desktop so comparison should be good.... To play the lottery or not, that's the question!

To all you 9CBD guys, what brightness setting do you have yours on to get a pop?

 

[kny3twalker]

So how does the 9CC2 compare to the 9CBD that everyone seems so happy to have? My macbook pro has the 9CC2, and I am quite happy with the screen.

 

[nonocei]

I have the 9cc2 as well and would like to know how that compares to the 9cbd...

 

[Fuchal]

This is what my 9CBD looks like after 4 months. Just want to make sure this isn't normal before I take it in to the Apple Store. Thoughts?

 

[klover]

This is what my 9CBD looks like after 4 months. Just want to make sure this isn't normal before I take it in to the Apple Store. Thoughts?

Seen the same thing on my gf's 9c9f model...seems to be worse after it's been closed. We left hers open a few nights in a row and it was much better (perhaps a weight issue...the screen, not my gf).

 

[Fuchal]

Seen the same thing on my gf's 9c9f model...seems to be worse after it's been closed. We left hers open a few nights in a row and it was much better (perhaps a weight issue...the screen, not my gf).

Interesting... I'll try that and see what happens. Thanks!

 

[klover]

Interesting... I'll try that and see what happens. Thanks!

No problem, it seems to come and go. My older MBP did the same thing too.

 

[Imola Ghost]

This is what my 9CBD looks like after 4 months. Just want to make sure this isn't normal before I take it in to the Apple Store. Thoughts?

Fuchal, what is going on with your laptop? Mine displays the same screen and at first I thought it wasn't waking up from sleep mode. However last night I change all of my Energy Saver modes on both Battery & Power Adapter to NEVER so it wouldn't ever go to sleep so now I don't know what's going on with my 13" MBP I bought in July 2009.

 

[kny3twalker]

So how does the 9CC2 compare to the 9CBD that everyone seems so happy to have? My macbook pro has the 9CC2, and I am quite happy with the screen.

I have the 9cc2 as well and would like to know how that compares to the 9cbd...

I am pretty happy with my laptops screen but I would still be interested in a comparison ...

 

[Fuchal]

Fuchal, what is going on with your laptop? Mine displays the same screen and at first I thought it wasn't waking up from sleep mode. However last night I change all of my Energy Saver modes on both Battery & Power Adapter to NEVER so it wouldn't ever go to sleep so now I don't know what's going on with my 13" MBP I bought in July 2009.

Oh, sorry, I opened Photoshop full screen and filled it solid black.

 

[Imola Ghost]

Oh, sorry, I opened Photoshop full screen and filled it solid black.

When you get this solid black screen, do you have to manually power down the laptop in order to get it working again? I have the same screen randomly show up on my laptop but I don't use/have Photoshop.

 

[Fuchal]

When you get this solid black screen, do you have to manually power down the laptop in order to get it working again? I have the same screen randomly show up on my laptop but I don't use/have Photoshop.

I manually created the black screen in Photoshop, so I dont have the issue you are experiencing.

 

[Fuchal]

I sent my MBP in for repair and it came back with a replacement display that does not have the backlight bleed anymore. Hooray!!!

 

[aquadisiac]

help i dont know what type of screen i have

 

[donster28]

Hello all! Wow, I'm quite surprised this thread is still alive!

So sorry for not updating in a while. I have been so busy with lot's of stuff since.

My MBP 13" is still doing well, although I did notice the backlight bleed on the screen edges lately. I'm glad I came back here and found a fix...thanks guys and gals. I have been bringing my MBP with me almost everyday and it's always closed, so tonight I'll try to leave it open for a while.

Thanks again.

 

[brdnboy]

Does anyone know if there are different LVDS cables for different LCD models or has anyone had compatibility issues with the LVDS cable not being compatible with certain displays? I am trying to replace an LG LP133WX3 with an AU B133EW04 and it seems the I-PEX connectors are different and not compatible. Any insight is appreciated.