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I've been a Mac user since the early 90s and if Windows wasn't such a pos, I'd be looking seriously at jumping ship.

I feel the same way. The only way Windows can compete with macOS is abandon its Registry based virus heaven legacy foundation and completely re-design a new Unix based OS from ground up. Are they "courageous" enough to do it? I doubt it very much.
Windows 10 is not bad at all. Especially when talking about viruses and other stuff. The only Windows machines I would buy are the MS made ones like the surface though.
We have reached a weird point where all big players have good quality hardware to go w the software.
 
I wonder if, like with the sapphire company in Texas, Apple told McLaren to "put your big boy pants on and just sign the contract"? Is Apple destructive to companies these days? I love Apple products, but seems Apple product pricing is getting a little out of hand.
 
Wrong target. It's Ive that's doing the damage. When I see a laptop where everything is soldered to the motherboard, including AFAICT, the touch ID, I conclude function has gone bye-byes. A computer where any damage to what effectively is the 'On' switch needs a new motherboard including the SSD, is design gone mad.

I've been a Mac user since the early 90s and if Windows wasn't such a pos, I'd be looking seriously at jumping ship.
Gotta agree, Ive (or whoever is in charge of Industrial Design right now) is forgetting the essentials, such as honest design (The new MacBook Pro speakers anyone?) and the obsession with form over function and unergonomic products is not my cup of tea.
 
If Apple takes over McLaren, will McLaren be renamed MacLaren?

If they make a Formula 1 car, they can call it the MacLaren Pro.

If they make a street-legal car for consumers, they can call it the iMacLaren.

If they make a small roadster, they can call it the MacLaren Mini.
 
I hardly consider the two of them sitting down and chatting as confirming they were in discussions of a take over or large investment Mac Rumors.....

I said hello to the till lady today in the supermarket... translated by MacRumors... I proposed to the till lady today...
 
Attention to detail? McLaren automobiles are notorious for poor quality and mediocre resale value. This is well-documented.

Citation?
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I hardly consider the two of them sitting down and chatting as confirming they were in discussions of a take over or large investment Mac Rumors.....

I said hello to the till lady today in the supermarket... translated by MacRumors... I proposed to the till lady today...

Um, no. On the other hand, if you were spotted coming out of the till lady's apartment, people might talk.
 
It always makes me laugh (in derision) whenever I read anything about Apple developing a car or even underlying technology.

Given the lack of attention or interest to developing their existing (basic and still ridiculously limited) interface known as CarPlay these past few years, it's a joke to imagine there's anything remotely feasible brewing in Timmy's magical "pipeline".
 
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Makes sense. Apple is too cheap to pay what another company is worth and has absolutely no direction on future innovation. Now they went from building a car, which was relatively stupid, to making systems that no vehicle manufacturer will want. Why would vehicle manufacturers want anything from Apple when they develop their own semi-autonomoues technologies in-house or get them from Mobileye? Even Tesla rolled its own solution into production vehicles in less than a year... Apple has been chewing on this for how long? Idiots.

After $20 billion in R&D, Apple will announce something stupid that nobody wants. And Tim Cook will talk about all the great products in the pipeline. Unfortunately, by the time anything they are "working on" is ready, iPhone and iPad sales will be tanking while other companies, like Google, innovate with actually desirable phones like the Pixel. Nobody will want a car that integrates seamlessly into the iOS ecosystem by 2020. Look at the sales trajectory of Apple's mobile products: DOWN.

Tim Cook's days are numbered, that is, if the Board of Directors is paying any attention to what's not happening in Cupertino: Innovation. Cook has not structured the company in a way that promotes innovation, clearly evident by the lack of any attention being paid to its UI and product lines. Phil Schiller keeps getting fatter as he pumps out useless products nobody wants.

This is a very sad time for Apple.


Yes, very sad. I think Apple needs a safe space in which to cry and regroup. This despite being the most valuable company in the world; their leading product, the iPhone, selling as fast as they can make them with latest estimates that nearly a quarter of a billion people will buy it; their latest product, the Macbook Pro, already having set records for sales and selling as fast as they can make them; having $10 billion net income in the last quarter alone; conversions from Android setting an all time record; service revenue setting an all time record and now the equivalent of its own Fortune 100 company, Apple Pay growing at an exponential rate, up 500%; just set the record for the most revenue in a year by any company in the world. Estimated to have sold more smart watches than the entire rest of the industry lifetime sales combined and having now reached 104% of the entire cell phone industry's profits, we weep for Apple.

Maybe if they could just, as you state, innovate like Google did with the Pixel. Of course they would have to give up a waterproof phone, have a greatly reduced processor power and speed, no duo lens camera, etc., etc. but good point.

Great observation- It's indeed a very sad time for Apple.
 
Makes sense. Apple is too cheap to pay what another company is worth and has absolutely no direction on future innovation. Now they went from building a car, which was relatively stupid, to making systems that no vehicle manufacturer will want. Why would vehicle manufacturers want anything from Apple when they develop their own semi-autonomoues technologies in-house or get them from Mobileye? Even Tesla rolled its own solution into production vehicles in less than a year... Apple has been chewing on this for how long? Idiots.

After $20 billion in R&D, Apple will announce something stupid that nobody wants. And Tim Cook will talk about all the great products in the pipeline. Unfortunately, by the time anything they are "working on" is ready, iPhone and iPad sales will be tanking while other companies, like Google, innovate with actually desirable phones like the Pixel. Nobody will want a car that integrates seamlessly into the iOS ecosystem by 2020. Look at the sales trajectory of Apple's mobile products: DOWN.

Tim Cook's days are numbered, that is, if the Board of Directors is paying any attention to what's not happening in Cupertino: Innovation. Cook has not structured the company in a way that promotes innovation, clearly evident by the lack of any attention being paid to its UI and product lines. Phil Schiller keeps getting fatter as he pumps out useless products nobody wants.

This is a very sad time for Apple.

There's so many things flawed with this post it's quite incredible. Yeah everyone wants a Pixel and not the iPhone 7. :rolleyes:
 
Makes sense. Apple is too cheap to pay what another company is worth and has absolutely no direction on future innovation. Now they went from building a car, which was relatively stupid, to making systems that no vehicle manufacturer will want. Why would vehicle manufacturers want anything from Apple when they develop their own semi-autonomoues technologies in-house or get them from Mobileye? Even Tesla rolled its own solution into production vehicles in less than a year... Apple has been chewing on this for how long? Idiots.

After $20 billion in R&D, Apple will announce something stupid that nobody wants. And Tim Cook will talk about all the great products in the pipeline. Unfortunately, by the time anything they are "working on" is ready, iPhone and iPad sales will be tanking while other companies, like Google, innovate with actually desirable phones like the Pixel. Nobody will want a car that integrates seamlessly into the iOS ecosystem by 2020. Look at the sales trajectory of Apple's mobile products: DOWN.

Tim Cook's days are numbered, that is, if the Board of Directors is paying any attention to what's not happening in Cupertino: Innovation. Cook has not structured the company in a way that promotes innovation, clearly evident by the lack of any attention being paid to its UI and product lines. Phil Schiller keeps getting fatter as he pumps out useless products nobody wants.

This is a very sad time for Apple.

I think your emotions are clouding facts and logic. Apple's iPhone sales are projected to go up next year. Businesses go in cycles and iPad definitely peaked early.

As for Google innovating with the Pixel, it's simply a rebranding of Nexus, but at a much higher price point to help Google increase revenues to offset slowing ad sales. In fact, you'll find tons of reddit comments about how it's just a money grab and a ripoff because it's priced the same as iPhone but lacks many of its innovations... A10/M9 chip, secure enclave, dual lens camera, original design including never before done 7 step aluminum finish to create the jet black finish, 3D Touch, wide color gamut display, Taptic Engine, etc. The Pixel doesn't even include stereo speakers or water-resistant design. Even the Nexus had stereo speakers.

If you stop grading Apple on a curve and stop reading the negative comments on these boards, I think you'll find that Apple is still the gold standard and the innovation leader in the spaces in which they compete. Just because innovations like the W1 chip and AirPods aren't the next iPhone, doesn't make them any less innovative... in fact, I'd argue it's far more innovative than anything introduced with the Pixel and will be far more desirable... if it ever ships.
 
Makes sense. Apple is too cheap to pay what another company is worth and has absolutely no direction on future innovation. Now they went from building a car, which was relatively stupid, to making systems that no vehicle manufacturer will want. Why would vehicle manufacturers want anything from Apple when they develop their own semi-autonomoues technologies in-house or get them from Mobileye? Even Tesla rolled its own solution into production vehicles in less than a year... Apple has been chewing on this for how long? Idiots.

After $20 billion in R&D, Apple will announce something stupid that nobody wants. And Tim Cook will talk about all the great products in the pipeline. Unfortunately, by the time anything they are "working on" is ready, iPhone and iPad sales will be tanking while other companies, like Google, innovate with actually desirable phones like the Pixel. Nobody will want a car that integrates seamlessly into the iOS ecosystem by 2020. Look at the sales trajectory of Apple's mobile products: DOWN.

Tim Cook's days are numbered, that is, if the Board of Directors is paying any attention to what's not happening in Cupertino: Innovation. Cook has not structured the company in a way that promotes innovation, clearly evident by the lack of any attention being paid to its UI and product lines. Phil Schiller keeps getting fatter as he pumps out useless products nobody wants.

This is a very sad time for Apple.

Since you run a successful multi-billion dollar company you should definitely give them some direction.
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If Apple takes over McLaren, will McLaren be renamed MacLaren?

If they make a Formula 1 car, they can call it the MacLaren Pro.

If they make a street-legal car for consumers, they can call it the iMacLaren.

If they make a small roadster, they can call it the MacLaren Mini.
You'll be here all week I'm sure.
 
Apple: We would like to partner with you.
McLaren: Sure what do you have in mind. Any ideas.
Apple: First things first, your cars are too fat. We would like to make it slim also they are way too powerful. People don't need so much power. We know what people need.
McLaren: I think you know where the door is. Don't let it hit you on the way out.
 
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