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McLaren Confirms Talks With Apple, But They 'Never Matured to Definitive Proposition'
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I agree. I think the biggest thing that comes out of the Samsung Note 7 disaster is the success for Google, not Apple. Apple may see a very small percentage of Samsung users switch, I don't think more than maybe 3-5%, but I think Android users that had never been on a Google phone will realize how much better the experience is without the Samsung bloatware and without having to wait months on end for an update. I know when I had a Samsung those were my biggest issues.
Well their P1 is slower and more expensive than the La Ferrari and Porsche 918*, so they would be a perfect fit for Apple.
*Grand Tour S1E1
*Grand Tour S1E1
I've got so many retorts to this, however I'll stick to telling you this is a total load of bull.
Thank goodness it didn't go forward. Apple would just screw up McLaren.
Apple has a history of screwing other companies, and now they're screwing their consumer with the "courage".
If Apple did take over McLaren, I wonder what it would be like. What courage would Apple take (remove) from the McLaren cars. 900 HP car? No, you don't need that. You'll get 300 HP instead. Apple will turn it into crap.
Apple has plenty of money to start their own car company from nothing. Don't ruin a good thing by taking over and screwing it up. I like Apple, but they really shouldn't be talking to Lamborghini (Volkswagen), Ferrari, McLaren, or Porsche.
Maybe they can talk to Fiat, they make cute cars. I'm sure they could do something with it.
Has anyone seen the first episode of The Grand Tour? I love the cinematography (camera work).
https://www.amazon.com/The-Grand-Tour-Teaser-Trailer/dp/B01J94A5GQ/
Apple has a history of screwing other companies, and now they're screwing their consumer with the "courage".
If Apple did take over McLaren, I wonder what it would be like. What courage would Apple take (remove) from the McLaren cars. 900 HP car? No, you don't need that. You'll get 300 HP instead. Apple will turn it into crap.
Apple has plenty of money to start their own car company from nothing. Don't ruin a good thing by taking over and screwing it up. I like Apple, but they really shouldn't be talking to Lamborghini (Volkswagen), Ferrari, McLaren, or Porsche.
Maybe they can talk to Fiat, they make cute cars. I'm sure they could do something with it.
Has anyone seen the first episode of The Grand Tour? I love the cinematography (camera work).
https://www.amazon.com/The-Grand-Tour-Teaser-Trailer/dp/B01J94A5GQ/
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TAG is Mansour Ojjeh's company, the major McLaren shareholder who's big fall out with Ron Dennis has lead to him losing his job as CEO.They put there name along with Tag Heuer onto high end home audio equipment, don't think they make them anymore though.
The hi-fi products came after Tag McLaren bought Audiolab in the late 90's but they weren't successful so were sold off 5 years later and are now trading again under their original name. TAG Heuer were also sold by Ojjeh in the late 90's and now have no connection to TAG or McLaren, hence the partnership with the Red Bull F1 team.
That would be a more sensible move, but Toyota doesn't really need Apple. The Prius already sells well, and is already high-tech. BMW and Mercedes do need Apple to help with their user interfaces.
The fact that Apple spent the time on the visit to McLaren is interesting in itself. At first sight, McLaren doesn't
produce anything that Apple might need for their own vehicle (powerful petrol engines, advanced suspension,
niche market road cars, boutique manufacture). They do a lot of work on telemetry and feedback for the F1 cars, though,
they do a lot of testing, and the steering wheel is very cool. Apple might perhaps have wanted some of this?
They might also have been looking to get into Formula 1 sponsorship rather than manufacturing?
Not with cars like Lamborghini, Ferrari, or even McLaren. They make cars that are meant to be "interactive". Can you imagine an autonomous sports car? Where's the excitement in that? Apple should go buy Tesla, that's something I won't oppose, since they won't ruin a good sports car company.
I'm guessing Tesla isn't for sale.
I think Apple should focus on the car/driver interface. Some sort of universal system that car companies could personalise.
Me neither.
I think the problems would be insurmountable. We will continue to have a gradual increase in driving aids like lane control and cruise control, but I can't see fully automated cars happening for at least several decades. Planes have had auto-pilot for decades, yet still need a pilot, and their environment is much more straightforward than cars. Add in the potential for hacking an auto network, and autonomy seems implausible.
I could see automated lorries that go from depot to depot only using the motorway, but there are too many variables on roads. I just can't see a computer would ever be able to make the right decision in every situation.
And I suspect the driver will always be ultimately responsible, so why not just... drive?! I get bored as a passenger.
And the hacking thing is a great point.
I remember, back in the 90s, watching a science-based TV show. They were showing this system where the car was fitted with a receiver. Rather than dangerously chase the stolen car, the police called-in the number plate and the engine was remotely cut. I thought it was an excellent idea.
That never happened. Probably because it was hackable or because people's rights were somehow being violated.
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Too bad. I would have loved a MacLaren
Most baby stores sell MacLarens. Unless you meant McLaren?
You have no idea what they were doing. You're acting as if this was fact. It's not.
Also, 20 billion in R&D? I doubt they even come close to it. I do know other companies spend more than Apple for a fact though.
Hilarious! Because you know who I am, what I do and what experience I have in the automotive industry?!
Please educate me then.
It's well-known (here in America) that McLarens don't hold their value... at all. It's common to see new 650S going for huge discounts, whereas the equivalent new 488GTB is probably being sold at MSRP.
The best McLaren "bargain" is a used 12C. Easily available for the price of a new low-to-mid tier Porsche 991.2. Epic deprecation.
I am well aware - my point is, what does any of that have to do with Formula One racing???
McLaren made 106 f1s and the first 5 that won le mons were sold to the public as full race bread F1 cars.I got lucky enough to see an f1 lm in person and it had a plate in it but the state of Massachusetts said the owner can only drive it on Sundays and only put 100 miles a year on it.
it was one of the actual cars that raced and won le man's and was later sold to Ralph Lauren.
Why would the state cares when and how an owner drives their car?
it was a straight up race car that raced in f1 and had zero imissions systems or catalytic converters.he could only drive it on Sundays but the car sold for millions and is not a car you want to put miles on it anyway.
Just had an idea for all of us arm chair quarterbacks. How about a fantasy league but for Apple? Maybe it is a crazy idea but you make prototypes and it is voted on somehow? Let's see who has the best imaginary products. Winner replaces Tim Cook or gets an Apple pencil or something similar as a prize.
The idea is out there but I have heard of dumber ideas.