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Actually, that is not true. It depends on how you use credit cards that makes them evil or not evil. It's a very useful tool when used properly.

They charge fees to small companies that barely break even; they feed off people in debt.

I'd say credit card companies aren't angels
 
Threatening your clients with 'consequences' will just drive them away towards other more benevolent options like Google wallet or Apple pay.

This CEO guy needs to keep his mouth shut. He is generating more negative press than anything else.. Hire a PR person!
 
My expectation is that in many of the companies that signed on to CurrentC there are discussions on:
1. What will be the cost to us of staying the course and losing AP and GW customers;
2. What will it cost us to regain or replace the lost revenue and income associated with those customers;
3. What will be the cost to drop CurentC in the Quick-term, and then reapply for it somewhere down the road when it is actually available for use;
4. If we don't do 3, and we get 1, will 2 over the mid-term be less than 3.

My expectation is that the answer to 4 will be No, and that within the next week to 10 days, we will see a sizeable number of merchants announcing that they are opening up the NFC terminals to AP and GW. (This timing will be necessary to overcome the lag in information flow and the need to repeat the message a few times prior to the sales season surrounding both before and after Black Friday.

Most of the MCX companies aren't doing so well anyway. Somehow I doubt they'll change course, mainly because the real problem is short-sighted management.
 
I use about $10 in cash a week. 90+% of my purchases are debit card. Can't stand carrying cash.

I don't even use that much cash tbh, I carry enough for cab fare and really only use cash if I'm going to a place like a farmers market or similar location. I could probably count the numbers of times I've actually paid cash for something in the past year on my fingers.
 
I don't even use that much cash tbh, I carry enough for cab fare and really only use cash if I'm going to a place like a farmers market or similar location. I could probably count the numbers of times I've actually paid cash for something in the past year on my fingers.

My daily $1.87 bagel at a place with $5 minimum for card is approximately 100% of my cash needs.
 
It NEVER immediately recognizes the code, it always takes a few seconds of me passing the phone over it at different angles.

Same experience, fairly consistently too. My friend, thinking something was wrong with her phone, asked about it and was told this was kind normal.


If Starbucks is any indication, it's far from forgiving as I have to try many different angles and positions for it to register. Nevertheless, using the Starbucks app isn't too bad if done from the Passbook but it's quite annoying having to open the app, click on the card and turn it over to reveal card number at locations (such as on university campus) that do not have the QR code reader.

Agreed.
 
We're signed up for 18 loyalty programs because stores offered $20 off something that one time. Just because we're signed up doesn't mean we want them. Only retailers want them.

Davidson read that stat and came to precisely the wrong conclusion. He's either an idiot or a liar.

I want them. I use both the Starbucks and Dunkin Dounts iPhone apps to pay using a QR code. I get free drinks all the time from DD, and at starbucks I get free refills! So, I won't be switching to applepay unless it keeps with those loyalty rewards.
 
MCX CEO touts some threats and untruths. I hope enough people boycott businesses associated with MCX for the inconvenience it has caused.
 
Where do I even begin with the spin this guy is spewing?
1) Starbucks. They are going to also offer ApplePay by end of year. And the only payment linked to the app is pre-filled gift cards. The potential loss is night and day compared to a bank account. Hackers would have already killed Starbucks if it were.
2) He paints this cartel for what it is; you leave this family you are going to be ostracized from the retail community. The threat is obvious.
3) Providing breathing room at the cost of fair competition is a hostile action towards customers, banks, payment networks, tech companies, and basically everyone BUT the cartel members.
And the list goes on. I suspect CVS, RiteAid, et al won't flip the switch back on this year and will do so unceremoniously sometime next year as CurrentC launches, and dies a flaming death as the service has now been exposed and tarnished for good.
 
They charge fees to small companies that barely break even;

In exchange, the small company is guaranteed to get paid, if they get authorization.

They don't have to worry about bad checks. They don't have to worry (so much) about getting robbed.

A business gets real value from paying those fees. Otherwise, they would only accept cash.
 
BINGO.

CEO keeps touting the fact that this is 3 years in the making.

Which means during the past 3 years NFC payments worked concurrently (mostly Google wallet) despite these merchants having signed exclusivity agreements.

Why then shut it off so precariously immediately after ApplePay launches, this banning it AND Google Wallet?

It's this precise action that is tarnishing the image of MCX. Leaves a bad taste in consumers mouths.

(Doesn't help also that FAR TOO MANY of these MCX merchants have been hacked recently, including MCX itself just last week)

I have the same questions.:cool:

TWO questions MR. MCX/CurrentC CEO: "why can't MCX run side by side with NFC Apple Pay & Google Wallet"? "Why exclusivity deals, if your system is so desired by consumers"?

When you answer these, I'll listen to what your antiquated system does!
Then I'll tell you how out of touch and ignorant you are.;):apple::apple:
 
I wonder if the QR code changes for each usage or static like Starbucks.
No, it uses one-time tokens. Based on what the CEO said, it seems to work like this:

1) When you start the app, it generates a new token. Then it contacts the CurrentC backend over the Internet and submits the token. Finally, the token is displayed on the device's screen as a QR code.
2) The merchant scans the QR code, and sends the token to the CurrentC backend. CurrentC then matches the code to the one submitted by the customer's app, thus identifying the customer account. It can then process the charge using whatever payment method the customer has selected.

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I always select "credit".
Even signature-based debit card transaction may have less protections than a credit card (depending on the bank).
 
According to Davidson, when it comes to security, CurrentC uses the same tokenization system Apple Pay is based on.

They may be using tokenization, but it's nothing like Apple Pay. This is just more lying and misdiretcion from MCX.

Apple doesn't have your real credit card number, and they certainly don't have your bank account number. That's the whole appeal of Apple Pay. CurrentC stores your real account numbers on a server which will almost certainly be hacked sooner rather than later. Remember, "cloud security" (an oxymoron if ever there was one) is supposed to be one of the benefits of CurrentC.

They are in full-on damage control mode. This has obviously put a hurt on MCX. Good.
 
Even signature-based debit card transaction may have less protections than a credit card (depending on the bank).

Nope, I'm good.

My Credit Union's Website said:
Protection: your signature-based “credit” transactions automatically receive added protection
In the event of theft or unauthorized purchases, your liability is $0.
Visa will return any funds lost due to fraudulent use.
Shop securely online with Verified by Visa® password protection.
- See more at: https://www.affinityfcu.com/banking/checking/debit-card.aspx#sthash.0aiyg1jW.dpuf
 
if they're all about anonymizing customers and allowing them the option of privacy, why did you not even mention that until today, and why has such an option not existed in the trial rollout?

It ain't gonna fly. Department of Homeland Security et al will frown hard at any means of truly anonymizing digital payments.
 
Apple doesn't have your real credit card number, and they certainly don't have your bank account number. That's the whole appeal of Apple Pay. CurrentC stores your real account numbers on a server which will almost certainly be hacked sooner rather than later. Remember, "cloud security" (an oxymoron if ever there was one) is supposed to be one of the benefits of CurrentC.
The tokenization systems used by Apple Pay (run by Mastercard, Visa or another processor) are also running in the cloud ...
 
I use about $10 in cash a week. 90+% of my purchases are debit card. Can't stand carrying cash.

I hate using plastic. Cash rocks.
Except that plastic is so blasted convenient I rarely have any cash.
 
Where do I even begin with the spin this guy is spewing?
1) Starbucks. They are going to also offer ApplePay by end of year. And the only payment linked to the app is pre-filled gift cards. The potential loss is night and day compared to a bank account. Hackers would have already killed Starbucks if it were.
2) He paints this cartel for what it is; you leave this family you are going to be ostracized from the retail community. The threat is obvious.
3) Providing breathing room at the cost of fair competition is a hostile action towards customers, banks, payment networks, tech companies, and basically everyone BUT the cartel members.
And the list goes on. I suspect CVS, RiteAid, et al won't flip the switch back on this year and will do so unceremoniously sometime next year as CurrentC launches, and dies a flaming death as the service has now been exposed and tarnished for good.

The Rite Aid nearest me flipped the switch back on already. I used Apple Pay there on Halloween.
 
The tokenization systems used by Apple Pay (run by Mastercard, Visa or another processor) are also running in the cloud ...

...but not all of it. The phone, including some customized darned-near-tamper-proof hardware, keeps the core of the tokenization system processing OUT of the cloud.

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I don't want perks. I want convenience in a system that works.
 
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