[Merge] iPhone 3G and Prev. Gen. Accessories (chargers, car adapters, etc.)

[Baron58]

Same with me ... annoying new "feature," they lock out non iPhone Tested chargers even if they worked with first gen iPhones.

<sigh>

When the iPod first came out, it had a FireWire connection. When they introduced the dock connector and USB connection on the 2nd generation iPod, it had pin provisions for high-current charging (e.g. via FireWire), and low-current charging (e.g. via USB). Newer iPhones and iPods have deprecated the use of the high-current charging circuit, so any wall chargers, lighter plugs, car interfaces, Bose speakers, etc. which used the 'wrong' pins won't power or charge the device. Updated cables or a simple in-line adapter to correct the pinout will solve the problem. Using the 'correct' pins is backwards-compatible, so there's no bad effects to doing the right thing in this case.

 

[ryanmanu]

dont have the iphone 2G or the iphone 3g (yet, should be getting soon from CPW) but will the iPhone 3G work in my iPod speaker set? it apparently works with iphone 2g (so it says on outside of box) but i cannot be sure,

thanks in advance.

 

[savar]

<sigh>

When the iPod first came out, it had a FireWire connection. When they introduced the dock connector and USB connection on the 2nd generation iPod, it had pin provisions for high-current charging (e.g. via FireWire), and low-current charging (e.g. via USB). Newer iPhones and iPods have deprecated the use of the high-current charging circuit, so any wall chargers, lighter plugs, car interfaces, Bose speakers, etc. which used the 'wrong' pins won't power or charge the device. Updated cables or a simple in-line adapter to correct the pinout will solve the problem. Using the 'correct' pins is backwards-compatible, so there's no bad effects to doing the right thing in this case.

Thanks for explaining... what kind of inline adapters are available? I have an in-dash system that I custom installed. I'm guessing it would be a 5V source since it's powered through the head unit, but just in case I'd like to research how much an adapter would cost.

 

[Baron58]

Thanks for explaining... what kind of inline adapters are available? I have an in-dash system that I custom installed. I'm guessing it would be a 5V source since it's powered through the head unit, but just in case I'd like to research how much an adapter would cost.

None yet, that I know of. Anxiously waiting on that myself. I was hoping Griffin would have an adapter ready, but they don't. They *do* have compatible power kits for the car, but I need an adapter for my DICE interface.

 

[james2538]

None yet, that I know of. Anxiously waiting on that myself. I was hoping Griffin would have an adapter ready, but they don't. They *do* have compatible power kits for the car, but I need an adapter for my DICE interface.

Join the club, I have the same DICE interface in my car. Worked great with the original iPhone. I have heard Apple said they would release an adapter but I have yet to see any date or official information.

I am contemplating just buying an old iPod 4th Gen and keeping it for the car.

 

[Farani]

I'd like to hear if this is true. I have an in-dash ipod adapter that plays music and charges (i have ipod touch)... if this continues to work with iphone 3g that's 1 step closer towards getting the phone.

Edit: also, does the iphone 3g come with an adapter for the universal dock? (I'm referring to the plastic piece in the cradle that snaps into the universal dock.)

I have a USAspec ipod interface that hooks into the back of my stereo to play music in my car; it also charges. Well, it did. It charged my iPod 5G video and my first gen iPhone. However, IT DOES NOT charge my iPhone 3G which is very, very annoying. I would always rely on this to give my phone a nice boost during the day. I'm sure many days this is why my phone didn't die. Now it looks like some days I'll have to choose charging my phone rather than listening to music. Sucks. Hopefully there will be a fix for this, but I doubt it. Damn you Apple!

 

[karterius]

Oh Sweet I got my new 3G iPhone. Awww... man my battery died from all the 3G sweetness... I know I'll plug it into my car charger that worked so well with my original iPhone.... WTF is this.... "This accessory is not made to work with iPhone. Charging is not supported." Now I have too go back to the apple store and shell out another $40?

I am so ***** mad! It is incompatible with my car charger, a universal dock I have, and my insignia ipod boombox (which has a made for ipod licensed sticker on it)!

 

[lamina]

Can't use iPhone 3G with accessories

When I plug my original iPod FireWire charger into my iPhone 3G, I get a message saying that the accessory isn't supported, and charging is not supported!

Also, when I plug my iPhone into the FM transmitter I was using with my iPod touch, I get the same message.

What is the reason for this, other than wanton greed on Apple's part? I guess they need their finger in the pie of everything that can be used to enhance the user's experience of iPhone.

Apple is turning into something ugly.

 

[greenmymac]

When I plug my original iPod FireWire charger into my iPhone 3G, I get a message saying that the accessory isn't supported, and charging is not supported!

Also, when I plug my iPhone into the FM transmitter I was using with my iPod touch, I get the same message.

What is the reason for this, other than wanton greed on Apple's part? I guess they need their finger in the pie of everything that can be used to enhance the user's experience of iPhone.

Apple is turning into something ugly.

I having the same problem wiht some of my devices

 

[z400central]

Same problem as well.

This can turn into a HUGE problem.

 

[FarSeide]

I hope this doesnt turn into a big issue... it means that I have to have a separate cable just for my 3G iPhone

 

[Feverish Flux]

When I plug my original iPod FireWire charger into my iPhone 3G, I get a message saying that the accessory isn't supported, and charging is not supported!

Also, when I plug my iPhone into the FM transmitter I was using with my iPod touch, I get the same message.

What is the reason for this, other than wanton greed on Apple's part? I guess they need their finger in the pie of everything that can be used to enhance the user's experience of iPhone.

Apple is turning into something ugly.

This has always been the case... FireWire charging has never been supported on the iPhone. The transmitter will not work because of the GSM interference. There is a new model that will work with the iPhone, however.

Calm down.

 

[3goldens]

Same with me ... annoying new "feature," they lock out non iPhone Tested chargers even if they worked with first gen iPhones.

that's really not it they have screwed up all chargers even approved ones like the bose sound dock and ihome alarm clock sound system, that sucks in a very big way to the tune of 300 bucks worth of junk now!

 

[ki2594]

i would say the only way possible is to put the computer in airport mode. My dad has an iHome speaker system thing in his room and he can only use the iphone in it if its in airport mode.

 

[z400central]

Oh Sweet I got my new 3G iPhone. Awww... man my battery died from all the 3G sweetness... I know I'll plug it into my car charger that worked so well with my original iPhone.... WTF is this.... "This accessory is not made to work with iPhone. Charging is not supported." Now I have too go back to the apple store and shell out another $40?

I am so ***** mad! It is incompatible with my car charger, a universal dock I have, and my insignia ipod boombox (which has a made for ipod licensed sticker on it)!

I agree!

 

[phatcat]

I get the same error message using an aftermarket car charger that worked fine w/ my original iPhone.

Pure Apple greed is to blame.

They also probably altered the size of the phone so you'd have to purchase a new hard case for it.

However fortunately it works fine in my Sony ICF-C1iP AM/FM clock radio dock.

And as a bonus I don't have to put it in airplane mode to eliminate noise interference! It works fine!! No Noise!! Works great w/ Pandora!!

Did Apple add extra shielding to the new iPhone????

 

[ebrunn]

Yeah, I cant even use my Belkin car charger.

 

[Markleshark]

Same problem... With the Universal Dock. Yeah, not so universal.

 

[akbc]

There's always a list of supported iPod/iPhone on the box or case of the accessories... With little drawings of the iPod and a brief name of it.. (iPod 1G, 2G, all Video iPods.. etc...)

And according to those, clearly, iPhone isn't listed.

 

[baronbuzby]

The universal dock comes up as a 3G accessory on the apple store.

 

[Fuchal]

3G iPhones do not have the hardware to charge over firewire. Sucks but it had to happen eventually. I'm surprised so many iPods and the last iPhone supported it, since they removed firewire sync support so long ago.

 

[kvasir]

I have a Griffin PowerJolt that I bought for my first iPhone. It works just fine!

 

[lakaiordie]

i sync'd my 3g with my 8gb nano cable.

charges it fine too.

 

[Sphyrna]

I'm using the USB cable from my Nano 2G and it's working fine. I have a Keyspan AV dock I used with my Nano and it's also working. I just tried my car charger and it doesn't work Funny thing is I just bought the car charger a couple months b/c it said it works with iPod and iPhone and I knew I'd be getting the iPhone 3G when it came out. It was on clearance at Best Buy for only $4.99 and is really nice. It has fold-down prongs so I can also use it as a wall charger and the cable is one of those retractable zip cables. I really don't understand why they have to change stuff like this. It's bad enough they want us to upgrade our device every year when they come out with a new model, but upgrade our accessories too.

 

[funkyshaker]

No in-car charging when using my DICE system - that's rubbish.

Can still control the iPhone using the steering wheel controls but the battery is going down real fast what with the iPod and 3G on.