[Merged] Hi-Res Glossy or Hi-Res Antiglare?

[PandaOnslaught]

I dont see why you could possibly complain, this thread makes no sense, OMG HI RES IS TOO HIGH RES FOR ME, well change the resolution to 1440x900 in display settings, is that too hard? its the same resolution as the other screen, why complain about something that is literally an EASY FIX!

 

[Moomba]

Yes, with the high res screen many fonts are simply very small... almost too small. Personally, I just increase the font size (outward pinch) when viewing web pages and such. The menu's being bold are easy enough to read, it's just the fine text that is 90% of the issue. Sure, some dialog boxes can be a bit tricky but it's not THAT bad for me. Personally, I would much rather zoom in a bit when needed and actually have the screen real estate to work with when I do video editing and such. There is nothing more annoying to me than having to do a task requiring large amounts of screen but simply not having it.

 

[gooter80]

I dont see why you could possibly complain, this thread makes no sense, OMG HI RES IS TOO HIGH RES FOR ME, well change the resolution to 1440x900 in display settings, is that too hard? its the same resolution as the other screen, why complain about something that is literally an EASY FIX!

this post makes no sense

 

[Moomba]

I dont see why you could possibly complain, this thread makes no sense, OMG HI RES IS TOO HIGH RES FOR ME, well change the resolution to 1440x900 in display settings, is that too hard? its the same resolution as the other screen, why complain about something that is literally an EASY FIX!

I both agree and disagree with this. Simply bumping the resolution down DOES take care of the visibility issue, but it's not the screen's native resolution and there IS loss of detail when the system is forced to scale.

LCD/LED's do NOT act/react the same way as CRT's did to resolution changes. LCD/LED's have a fixed native resolution and any other resolution input are scaled to the native resolution. In displaying lower res on a higher res display there is a lot of detail that the panel is capable of displaying, but there is a lack of information with which to fill in said detail.

That said, it doesn't look AWFUL, but it does look... less natural.

 

[kolax]

I dont see why you could possibly complain, this thread makes no sense, OMG HI RES IS TOO HIGH RES FOR ME, well change the resolution to 1440x900 in display settings, is that too hard? its the same resolution as the other screen, why complain about something that is literally an EASY FIX!

LCD's look crap when they aren't at their native resolution.

And anyway, there is no 1440x900 resolution as an option - for some reason Apple makes it 1440x852 (stretched)

Yes, with the high res screen many fonts are simply very small... almost too small. Personally, I just increase the font size (outward pinch) when viewing web pages and such. The menu's being bold are easy enough to read, it's just the fine text that is 90% of the issue. Sure, some dialog boxes can be a bit tricky but it's not THAT bad for me. Personally, I would much rather zoom in a bit when needed and actually have the screen real estate to work with when I do video editing and such. There is nothing more annoying to me than having to do a task requiring large amounts of screen but simply not having it.

But then there's likes of Word.. things are small there. Things are small in Final Cut.

It isn't that I can't see them, it just it isn't easy on the eyes to use all day.

 

[entatlrg]

Keep in mind it's more important for everyone to write Apple about their concerns than post about it here.

At least then there's a chance, however so slight that something positive can come from it.

Anyone know a good general 'support/suggestion' email address (not the sjobs address please), that may reach the executive offices? Then it stands a better chance of getting read/acted upon.

 

[parajba]

If I cancel my order for the hi-res AG (placed yesterday, still showing 'Not shipped'), will I get back all the £1,619 I paid? How long will it take?

...Will I get a full refund...?

 

[Vantage Point]

I feel your pain and have advised a few people about this before buying on a photography website - web images are smaller and lose the impact. I looked at the high rez at the Apple store and just couldn't deal with it.

I have a similar problem with my new 27" iMac with fonts. I increased the minimum default font in Safari preferences but if I go too big then many websites rescale poorly with text hiding behind frames. So I use a 15 font minimum and also have to hit the Command + (or the a A) zoom out at the top of the browser - what a pain. Reading documents like Pages/word or emails is also a nightmare in that I have to resize everything.

I find myself now using my new MB for a lot of web stuff and documents as it is easier on the eyes and I do not need to resize as much to see things and use my higher resolution iMac mostly for photo editing.

Hi res is a good choice for some but not for me. I actually feared Apple would do this and I am glad they offer both but hate that the anti-glare is only available in hi-res. They like to leverage you into buying higher end items but in this day and age, more is no longer always better.

I would exchange it pronto. The cumulative effect of reading small fonts is a bad idea.

 

[nonlocal]

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But then there's likes of Word.. things are small there. Things are small in Final Cut.

It isn't that I can't see them, it just it isn't easy on the eyes to use all day.

Is it possible for you to post one or more screenshots of Final Cut in native res? It's the one thing I'm interested in (plus Logic),and the fact that there's no store for me to check the different screens,makes the decision quite hard.
I'd be vary thankful if you did so. Cheers

 

[parajba]

I feel your pain! I can't buy most laptops because of their high resolution, haha.

Anyways, if you're not doing anything involving the most accurate colors, how about a screen cover? I used a $20 ClearCal on my old 13" and it was lovely. The whites were a little prismatic, but they weren't unbearable and barely noticeable. I put a similar one on my iMac because every room in my home has a lot of windows. It's not perfect, but I don't do anything with color so it never concerned me.

Just cancelled my order, the status was 'Item not shipped'.
I'll try a screen cover on my current 13'' and see how it goes. Thanks for the tip.

 

[PandaOnslaught]

Is it possible for you to post one or more screenshots of Final Cut in native res? It's the one thing I'm interested in (plus Logic),and the fact that there's no store for me to check the different screens,makes the decision quite hard.
I'd be vary thankful if you did so. Cheers

Logic is wonderful in x1050 it really helps to be able to view more on the screen, plus the menus are smaller and it helps make the actually tracking section larger, ill post a screen when i get home unless someone is able to beat me too it, which is fine!

 

[Sandford]

Despite what I posted above regarding the decision being dependent on every individual's situation, I think you're right, or, I think I understand how you feel. Matte offers a clear benefit over glossy, but glossy doesn't offer an advantage over matte, so why would someone choose the option that holds no benefit?

Oh! Thank you! You have perfectly understood my thoughts. (Evidently my english is not good enough to translate exactly what I wanted to ask!)

 

[JTToft]

Hello!

As you can see, I am new here. I basically just registered to reply to this thread.

I can see why people might have a hard time adjusting to the high-res screen, but I don't understand the aspect of eye-strain... Currently, I am using a PC (yes, shame on me), but I am very much considering a MacBook Pro! And since I have been using an LCD screen with a native resolution of 1680 x 1050 for about two years (my current laptop), I am planning on getting the high-res MacBook Pro (haven't decided on the question of glass vs. anti-glare).

I am very happy about the resolution of my laptop screen and I have no problems whatsoever with text or eye-strain. This brings me to the essense of my post: Will the 1680 x 1050 resolution look any different on a MacBook Pro 15" than it does on my DELL Precision 15" (yes, I am about to throw it out - it's terrible!)?

Thanks in advance!

 

[migsev]

Does anyone have both a standard display and a high res display? Can someone take a screenshot of both displays and make some sort of comparison between the font sizes?

 

[kolax]

I can see why people might have a hard time adjusting to the high-res screen, but I don't understand the aspect of eye-strain... Currently, I am using a PC (yes, shame on me), but I am very much considering a MacBook Pro! And since I have been using an LCD screen with a native resolution of 1680 x 1050 for about two years (my current laptop), I am planning on getting the high-res MacBook Pro (haven't decided on the question of glass vs. anti-glare).

I am very happy about the resolution of my laptop screen and I have no problems whatsoever with text or eye-strain. This brings me to the essense of my post: Will the 1680 x 1050 resolution look any different on a MacBook Pro 15" than it does on my DELL Precision 15" (yes, I am about to throw it out - it's terrible!)?

Your Dell is definitely a 15"? If you are used to it, great!

I'm not saying everyone will struggle with the higher resolution.

OS X might scale things differently to Windows - I've not properly booted into Windows 7 yet to compare.

 

[entatlrg]

I just switched as well. I was using a late 2009 15" MBP anti-glare and upgraded to the 15" i7 hi-res anti-glare. Just sent it back today after a week and bought the 15" glossy i7. The Hi-res anti-glare had a beautiful screen, but I found the fonts too small and it was a hassle changing them all the time. I haven't used the glossy for a year or so and am liking it again.

Both screens are nice - use whatever fits your needs and feels comfortable.

I'd appreciate your feedback. A few people here in my office are about to go the same route as you have, actually 2 people here decided on a refurb '09 C2D MBP to get the resolution they wanted with anti glare. (It's unfortunate to go backwards to get the screen you want.)

- Now that you've used the 1440 x 900 screen in both glossy and anti glare 'if' you had a choice which would you choose?

- On the 1440 x 900 screen, which do you find text easier to read on, the glossy or anti glare?

- Does your i7 run hotter or louder than your '09 MBP?

 

[nonlocal]

Logic is wonderful in x1050 it really helps to be able to view more on the screen, plus the menus are smaller and it helps make the actually tracking section larger, ill post a screen when i get home unless someone is able to beat me too it, which is fine!

Thanks for the reply (and the future ss!). I 'm sure that the increased real estate in Logic will be great. I was watching it on a friend's standard res,and only with an eq and the mixer opened,things were really crammed. Fonts were not big though - no strain at all,just wondering how smaller they'd be. Thanks again.

 

[JTToft]

Your Dell is definitely a 15"? If you are used to it, great!

I'm not saying everyone will struggle with the higher resolution.

OS X might scale things differently to Windows - I've not properly booted into Windows 7 yet to compare.

- Well, it's 15,4 inches. But yeah, definitely.
I don't think it will be any different on a MacBook, but after reading all of your posts, I started to worry a little bit.

Actually, I went from a 15" 1024 x 768 (IBM ThinkPad) to my current 15" 1680 x 1050 (DELL Precision) and it took no getting used to (litterally). But then again, my eyes are better than most - or at least, that's what my doctor seems to think...

Thanks for your reply!

 

[snaky69]

led vs. lcd (pre-2009)
obviously not the same screen

Macbook pro's have had LED back-lighting since the 2nd generation. What are you talking about?

LCD = Liquid Crystal Display
LED = Light emitting diode(that's what is used to light up the LCD, older LCD's use CCFL, the screen is still a LCD panel).

 

[mac*chick]

I too would love a comparison between both the standard res and the high res. The only 15" I have is an old Powerbook G4 and then my iMac 2006 model.

My sister has a 24" iMac and her resolution is higher than the one on the Macbook Pro so when she went to the that resolution is looked blurry since it's not in it's native resolution.

 

[stefanwa]

Just got my HR-Glossy 2.4 i5 and love it so far! Despite the Volcano shipping was very fast to EU. I ordered 8 days ago.

 

[Mintin8]

Matte is getting all the love. What about Glossy?

Well we have had several threads about posting pictures of AG macbook pros. What about a thread to post pictures+discuss our glossy ones.

Originally, I had an Matte model, but traded it in for a Glossy one. Personal Preference really.

Also, those with 17inch MBP's, try post a few pictures of those, I've hardly seen any love towards them lately

Happy posting

 

[TxMacAddict]

Just got my HR-Glossy 2.4 i5 and love it so far! Despite the Volcano shipping was very fast to EU. I ordered 8 days ago.

Pics or it didn't happen

 

[jess222]

went from a 15" matte to a 17" glossy and i really like!! no pics but the screen is beautiful!!

 

[Tex-Twil]

I've also just returned my hi res MBP. Check mi sig for the thread

I dont see why you could possibly complain, this thread makes no sense, OMG HI RES IS TOO HIGH RES FOR ME, well change the resolution to 1440x900 in display settings, is that too hard? its the same resolution as the other screen, why complain about something that is literally an EASY FIX!

Well, yes Mr ! The high res does not allow 1440x900. There is a lower resolution but it is strached and looks horrible. Next time, before posting so many smileys, you should know better the subject you are talking about