[Merged] Hi-Res Glossy or Hi-Res Antiglare?

[jwheeler]

OMG YOU GUYS ROCK!!! Thanks so much. The High Res Glossy looks awesome!!! This may be a stupid question but I've never used a Mac before... do windows maximize and take up the whole screen like in windows?

Maximise doesn't work like in MS Windows. It generally fills the screen vertically, and resizes horizontally to what's necessary (like to 1000px for a webpage).

But to fill the screen, you hold CMD, Shift and then click the green + button. <- Works with most windows.

 

[nStyle]

Well this is the best I can do right now. I do have lights on around me and there isn't any glare problems at all. These photos don't do justice for the true beauty of the screen. (Lame iPhone camera)

Limewire next to iTunes... hmm.

 

[thadoggfather]

Kilamite let me know how it all goes for you and works out in the end.

 

[Gorilla Power]

Glossy rules for indoor use. I have it and its L-O-V-E-L-Y !

 

[MattMJB0188]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/904396/

 

[entatlrg]

I'm sitting outside on my deck using my glossy display in direct sunlight -- something I could never do with my matte display on my old laptop. I'm glad I made the switch to glossy.

If you've got it at the wrong angle it's like looking in a mirror, but shift it just a degree one direction or the other and it's completely usable.

That's interesting. Because if you read all the posts here the general consensus is that if you're using the notebook outside the Anti Glare screen is the only way to go.

Is the glossy screen as easy to read outside at the Anti Glare ??

 

[golfhero]

I'd appreciate your feedback. A few people here in my office are about to go the same route as you have, actually 2 people here decided on a refurb '09 C2D MBP to get the resolution they wanted with anti glare. (It's unfortunate to go backwards to get the screen you want.)

- Now that you've used the 1440 x 900 screen in both glossy and anti glare 'if' you had a choice which would you choose?

- On the 1440 x 900 screen, which do you find text easier to read on, the glossy or anti glare?

- Does your i7 run hotter or louder than your '09 MBP?

Hard to say on glossy vs matte. Both have pros and cons. I am using a 24" matte monitor in my office and the glossy MBP display at home which is a nice combination. If your office has windows with lots of light I would probably stick with matte. Overall I find matte better for reading text and glossy better for photos / movies, but I would not be unhappy with either. My only issue with the latest generation was I found the resolution to be too high.

I don't find any difference between heat on my i7 and the 09 3.06 I had. The fan comes on a bit more on the 2010 as the discreet card is engaged more often so I hear the fan more than I used to, but nothing too serious...

 

[dyn]

I get a kick out of all the "glossy is da debil" pictures posted. None of them are taken from a direct viewing angle, but instead, from such an angle as to highlight the reflections. That's hilarious. I mean c'mon....who is going to use the laptop by seating themselves at an exaggerated angle to the left or right of the keyboard/screen? Unless you've got two elbows on each arm, thats ridiculous.

The problem are the screens, they are quite difficult to photograph. If you photograph them from an angle it gets a lot easier. In reality you'll see a different image than when you photograph them heads on. That's why should always go see for yourself.

If you want to see some attempts at a heads on comparison between the matte and glossy display...anandtech has a nice article: Outdoor Glare - To Matte or Not to Matte.

Is the glossy screen as easy to read outside at the Anti Glare ??

I find matte and glossy both unable to read outside when it's sunny. Both are readable when you're in the shade. However, the glossy still has a lot of reflections which make the screen really hard to read as the reflections are between your eyes and the tft panel thus blocking your view.

 

[monsterlin]

I'm using the anti-glare screen, and it looks much better than the glossy screen, i think...

 

[choco]

i've only ever used matte and haven't had a need to use any laptop outside (nor would i want to...) so i'm looking forward to my glossy macbook pro that hopefully will be shipped to me soon. i have used a glossy standard resolution screen for a few days before returning it and had no problem with the glare, and in fact enjoyed the nice colors. so i guess it's just up to taste

 

[SaaGua]

I'm one of those people who can't Magic Eye, so my eyesight tends to focus on the reflections from the glossy screen.
Definitely anti-glare for me. Which is one of many shortcomings of why I couldn't purchase the new 13" MBP.

 

[glxyjones]

Great post. Good comparison. That made my decision easy- Hi-res glossy looks WAY better IMO!! Sorry, but Apple should DISCOUNT if you want the 'Antiglare', not upcharge for it!

haha the reason why I completely agree with this is because if you look at the 2 displays next to each other, the only difference appears to be the glossy display has glass over the display. The screen on the AG is not flush with the bezel around it and is seriously looks like apple just removed the glass front and are selling it for as an upgrade.

I'd really be interested if someone had the money/time to remove the glass from a glossy MBP and see if they end up with an "upgraded" AG one.

 

[dyn]

I'd really be interested if someone had the money/time to remove the glass from a glossy MBP and see if they end up with an "upgraded" AG one.

They have a glossy tft panel and put a piece of glass in front of it. The anti glare option has a matte tft panel and nothing in front of it, it only has a aluminium bezel. This has been the case since they had unibody models with the matte option. Check out the tear down guides from ifixit.com.

 

[highADP]

Photos were taken with a Nikon D5000, Nikon SB-600 flash, and Nikon 35 mm f1.8 lens.

Yes, it was a f1.8 lens Anyway, I now have enough information to make up my mind that my next bebe will go with a hi-res matte. Thanks!!!

 

[dreven79]

I dont see why you could possibly complain, this thread makes no sense, OMG HI RES IS TOO HIGH RES FOR ME, well change the resolution to 1440x900 in display settings, is that too hard? its the same resolution as the other screen, why complain about something that is literally an EASY FIX!

Troll talk 101 ha ha ha...


At first i was dead set on getting the hi res, but after looking at hi res on 15" the fonts seem abit too small... very clear and crisp but after a while its kinda straining on the eyes.

i think i'll get the standard resolution its the sweet spot for me....

matter of personal preference... there is no right or wrong answer...

we are so obsessed with higher , faster , bigger , etc etc that sometimes you need to stop and work out whats best for you...

a 24" hi resolution monitor will solve the problem.... compared to the ACD 24"...unless you can afford it....

 

[Err0xx]

If text is too small try zooming or magnifying in OSX? I don't mean the control + 2 finger trackpad gesture, but the pinch gesture, like when zooming in on a picture. This makes things bigger and doesn't distort like the control + 2 finger trackpad does.

 

[kenstee]

I'm deeply sorry for my mistake

Anyways it still doesn't look like a Satin: much more visible logo

Need some clarification here...do the Speck cases fit the new 15" or not...

According to another poster: "Apple is now delivering with the April, 2010 MBP a new style power adapter like the ones that came with the air books. And because of the tang that snaps on to the left back corner of machine it will not properly connect when the Speck case is attached without turning the connector toward the ports and thus it blocks the Ethernet port. SO unless you have a previous power block the frustration begins. Does Speck have to redesign the way the case snaps onto the MBP?"

Is this true....or not........Bottom Line: With the Speck case on can you have the power plugged in AND not block the Ethernet port?

 

[mac*chick]

No, the new Speck cases are not a perfect fit. The adapter will stick out about 1 mm and I wrote Speck and was told that I could modify the case to allow the adapter to fit perfectly or I could reverse the adapter. A lot of users on this board have bought one and there is a photo somewhere on here of someone modifying their case. If I find it I'll post it here.

 

[thecheda]

Speck

How much was that Speck case?

 

[kenstee]

No, the new Speck cases are not a perfect fit. The adapter will stick out about 1 mm and I wrote Speck and was told that I could modify the case to allow the adapter to fit perfectly or I could reverse the adapter. A lot of users on this board have bought one and there is a photo somewhere on here of someone modifying their case. If I find it I'll post it here.

Reversing the adapter will block the Ethernet port though I believe. Not a good solution.

 

[mac*chick]

Here is the thread where someone modified their Speck case:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/905020/ (post 26)

Here is the response I got from Speck when I mentioned that I did not want to modify my case:

Thank you for contacting Speck!

Our MacBook Pro cases are tight! But just not QUITE...

And that’s not the way we do things at Speck. Our stuff fits perfect. Period.

Although our cases fit the new machines as snug as ever, the power plug that ships with the MacBook Pro line changed to the new 90-degree MagSafe. This means that 1mm of plastic interference with our SeeThru and SeeThru SATIN cases causes the MagSafe adapter to plug in slightly crooked (see fig. 1), and not quite as secure as it’s supposed to be. It WILL fit and charge like this. However, for a 100% seated connection, the MagSafe can be plugged in “backwards” (see fig. 2). As this covers the USB port and looks a bit goofy, this workaround is not a perfect fit in our eyes.

New cases that do not have this slight fit issue will be available in the near future, however, if you’d like to buy a case now, anyone can do this simple modification to fix the problem:

You can easily shave off the extra plastic in just a moment’s time using a file: even a simple metal nail file from a drugstore will do! We aren’t totally stoked on asking customers to modify their cases if the interference is bothersome… But on the balance, the environmental impact of scrapping, shipping, un-packing, and re-packing the cases (which do allow for charging functionality, if slightly unaesthetically) just doesn’t measure up to a few strokes of a nail file.

Kind regards,

 

[kenstee]

Here is the thread where someone modified their Speck case:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/905020/ (post 26)

Here is the response I got from Speck when I mentioned that I did not want to modify my case:

Thank you for contacting Speck!

Our MacBook Pro cases are tight! But just not QUITE...

And that’s not the way we do things at Speck. Our stuff fits perfect. Period.

Although our cases fit the new machines as snug as ever, the power plug that ships with the MacBook Pro line changed to the new 90-degree MagSafe. This means that 1mm of plastic interference with our SeeThru and SeeThru SATIN cases causes the MagSafe adapter to plug in slightly crooked (see fig. 1), and not quite as secure as it’s supposed to be. It WILL fit and charge like this. However, for a 100% seated connection, the MagSafe can be plugged in “backwards” (see fig. 2). As this covers the USB port and looks a bit goofy, this workaround is not a perfect fit in our eyes.

New cases that do not have this slight fit issue will be available in the near future, however, if you’d like to buy a case now, anyone can do this simple modification to fix the problem:

You can easily shave off the extra plastic in just a moment’s time using a file: even a simple metal nail file from a drugstore will do! We aren’t totally stoked on asking customers to modify their cases if the interference is bothersome… But on the balance, the environmental impact of scrapping, shipping, un-packing, and re-packing the cases (which do allow for charging functionality, if slightly unaesthetically) just doesn’t measure up to a few strokes of a nail file.

Kind regards,

They should just offer to mod the cases for customers BEFORE they are shipped - that is if they can't wait for new, modified cases to be made available.

 

[Val-kyrie]

Watching movies on the anti-glare screen is great, as is viewing photos, browsing websites, viewing documents, everything! I use to be pro-glossy, until I got the anti-glare. From now on, I'm always getting an anti-glare option if its available. Honestly, the colors are just as vibrant on the anti-glare when compared to glossy.

And for me, the matte doesn't strain my eyes.

 

[Val-kyrie]

Hmm, guess that is the tradeoff Apple gave us users.

If you want black border (style matches the current MBP design), you have to deal with gloss and reflections

while

If you want matte, you have to deal with the silver framing and having a not entirely matched design.

Here is what I think, if Apple were to change the color of the keyboard for matte option MBPs to silver too (like the previous non-unibody) MBP. I think the silver frame + silver keyboard will look better then the current silver frame + black keyboard.

Cause if you look at the current glossy MBPs, the Black frame matches the design, primarily cause of the black keyboard. Imagine how it will look if it only has black frame and silver keyboard

Btw, anyone care to do a mockup of a MBP with silver frame + silver keyboard and a glossy MBP with silver keyboard? I am interested to see the difference.

Or if you know someone with a SR MBP (like my father does), that generation had silver on silver. I think it looks nice.

 

[Val-kyrie]

It's ok and Thanks, Daelos. That is already enough to show what I meant (I suck at Photoshop )

Hmm, anyone have any ideas how to push this idea to Apple?

Silver keyboard (like previous MBP gen design) for users who opt for matte display cause seriously, why do we have to pay extra to get a MBP without glass display

And I bet many users will be pleased that they will have a matching keyboard color when they opt for matte display

I agree. Apple is not really serving its customers here. They merely take off the glass with the black border without regard to the aesthetics of the matte models. Either give matte models a silver keyboard or keep the black keyboard and add a black bezel. Right now, the matte model is the bastard child of the line which only serves to make Apple more money.