As regard to speed, I think that really depends where you are, and what phone you would use. When I had a Palm Pre, and did a speed test with my friend's 3GS, my Pre beat it by a margin.
Sprint doesn't have a 5GB cap.
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As regard to speed, I think that really depends where you are, and what phone you would use. When I had a Palm Pre, and did a speed test with my friend's 3GS, my Pre beat it by a margin.
Sprint doesn't have a 5GB cap.
Sprint's 3g is slower than ATT..
Btw, Dan Hesse the CEO of Sprint saying there won't be a fee for 4G...But the fee for the EVO is NOT for 4G, it's for the data coming over 4G..Oh wait nevermind, it's for 4G.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exd3VS5OB2g
Enjoy!
No idea on Sprint vs. AT&T.
But here in Japan, on SoftBank I just ran a 3G test.
Results --> DL at 2.27Mbps and UL at 0.19Mbps
I wonder what LTE (4G) will bring here in Japan.
Flash back to 2007
Iphone data plan $20...
Flash back to 2008
Iphone data plan $30...
$10 increase... for WHAT? ahhh same thing sprint is doing... except sprint is saying it for the device... and att was saying it was for the opportunity to use 3g ALTHO 3g was very dominate before the Iphone 3g came about.
4g right now, there isnt ONE 4g phone on the market.. I think the $10 dollar fee is justified.
Umm, you're comparing the 2G (no 3g) iPhone to the 3G (3g capable) iPhone. AT&T is anticipating lots of usage going by the sale of the first gen iPhone. Yeah, I am sure it would have gone up by $10 dollars.
So let's try this again since everyone seems to try and justify this stupid fee.
Sprint is charging anyone that wants an EVO a $10 dollar fee for "better data performance" even though MOST everyone getting it won't see "better data performance" because the "worlds first 4G android device" will only have 11 states that have 4G and even then, the cities it's in is far and few.
Yeah, that $10 dollars is so worth it!
Again, if you need to justify that $10 dollars, don't do it here. It's getting old. Keep it to yourself.
Umm, you're comparing the 2G (no 3g) iPhone to the 3G (3g capable) iPhone. AT&T is anticipating lots of usage going by the sale of the first gen iPhone. Yeah, I am sure it would have gone up by $10 dollars.
So let's try this again since everyone seems to try and justify this stupid fee.
Sprint is charging anyone that wants an EVO a $10 dollar fee for "better data performance" even though MOST everyone getting it won't see "better data performance" because the "worlds first 4G android device" will only have 11 states that have 4G and even then, the cities it's in is far and few.
Yeah, that $10 dollars is so worth it!
Again, if you need to justify that $10 dollars, don't do it here. It's getting old. Keep it to yourself.
So you are then saying that 3g was available in ALL markets when the Iphone 3g came out??
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/06/10/list-of-cities-that-are-in-atandts-3g-coverage/
So those people not in 3g markets, still had to pay a $10 premium over the iphone 2g??
Peopl with the EVO have to pay $10 whether they are in a 4g area or not...
Sounds familar?? Dont let your fanboi tendencies shadow good judgement...
Sprint's 3g is slower than ATT..
Btw, Dan Hesse the CEO of Sprint saying there won't be a fee for 4G...But the fee for the EVO is NOT for 4G, it's for the data coming over 4G..Oh wait nevermind, it's for 4G.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exd3VS5OB2g
Enjoy!
I thought the $10 was to remove the cap on 3G data from 5gb to truly unlimited? Other plans sprint offers has that 5gb cap (like all other carriers). It's more of a data thing, not how fast you're getting the data.
http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=5973
Funny thing is that they refer to the $10 price as a WiMax plan, even though it affects your data limit of 4g and 3g the same and 3g isn't WiMax. You're not paying for 4g since that'll work in the phone regardless. You're pay for no data cap.
Sprints 3g is slower than AT&Ts? Where? Link to an article to back up your claim?
Where does it say that the 10 bucks is for unlimited data?
This is what I got.
Source: http://jbtaylor.posterous.com/more-detail-on-the-sprint-evo-4g-10month-prem
ENJOY!
Honestly on data (I have both ATT and Sprint) I put phones side by side and ATT's data DESTROYED Sprints data in terms of speed. Add this to the fact that ATT maintains those data speeds even while I'm on the phone and well there is no comparison. Honestly I literally cannot count the times I was on the phone with someone conducting very important business and having really fast data while being on the phone is a life saver. I regularly get 3meg/sec on ATT. Interestingly enough the vids I saw of Sprints data at 4 and 5meg/sec didn't seem so impressive to me because ATT data at least in the areas the I live and also travel to, hit's 3+ on average...
Preach it to this big fanboi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exd3VS5OB2g
That's the CEO of Sprint saying 4G will be free. ATT, Sprint, and Verizon never said 3G would be free. ATT also had more coverage when they started charging for 3G. Sprint already increased the rates once for 3G and made everyone on the SERO plans upgrade to those plans if they wanted most of the phones on Sprint.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/196209/htc_evo_4g_arrives_june_4_for_200.html
Dan Hesse did state that on May 12.
Maybe you need to do more research before blurt things out...
Yes, you been saying this almost every other thread you posted. We understand that he made a mistake/lie however you want to put it. And those are willing to get the evo will pay for it or/and will put up with that mistake that he made. I think he needs to publicly clear this out or apologize.
And again, even though Sprint claimed there's cap on 3G but there's no such thing. Maybe that was a long time ago, but not in the past 2-3 years.
Blurt what things out? WTF are you talking about? I was not at the special conference on May 12th.
You seem to be talking out your arse right now and it's not making sense. I have said this in two "posts" not threads. Anyway, glad you see that Hesse lied back in MARCH when he debuted the EVO... That was an EVO in his hand while he was talking. It's not a mistake when a CEO says something like that 3 months prior to their flagship launching, it's a lie. If the CEO can lie about something so big, then surely their customer service must be as bad as a lot of people say it is. Matter of fact, the customer service is already doing a horrible job covering the EVO. Here: http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1644276&page=1&pp=15 Read the first few posts.
I never said it was in all markets. I said AT&T was anticipating lots of usage. There is a difference. Don't twist my words to suit your needs.
The point of the $10 was Sprint said it was for a "better data experience". Implying that it was for 4G. You paid it whether or not you had it in your area. They went back on that and stated it was for 3G as well.
I'm not a fanboi either. I use what works
Here's the thing, I don't understand what point you were trying to make. I just don't know what your talking about. They said things on May 12th and I kept up with the things they said, maybe not word for word, but I did. What did they say that backs up your point and makes me wrong for "blurting" things out?
I never said it was in all markets. I said AT&T was anticipating lots of usage. There is a difference. Don't twist my words to suit your needs.
The point of the $10 was Sprint said it was for a "better data experience". Implying that it was for 4G. You paid it whether or not you had it in your area. They went back on that and stated it was for 3G as well.
I'm not a fanboi either. I use what works
No no no you don't understand.
The PREMIUM data experience is the ability to stream HD video content to your phone. You can upload your HD vids straight the The Youtube. You really are getting a premium experience.
OPPS nevermind you're right, those things are ONLY available on 3G signal which is what most of America has with Sprint...Otherwise you have a regular android phone that has a large screen and front facing camera. Wonder if ATT will charge 10 bucks for the front facing camera feature on the new iPhone...Or their network upgrade coming out this year that is faster than Sprint's 4g.
No no no you don't understand.
The PREMIUM data experience is the ability to stream HD video content to your phone. You can upload your HD vids straight the The Youtube. You really are getting a premium experience.
OPPS nevermind you're right, those things are ONLY available on 3G signal which is what most of America has with Sprint...Otherwise you have a regular android phone that has a large screen and front facing camera. Wonder if ATT will charge 10 bucks for the front facing camera feature on the new iPhone...Or their network upgrade coming out this year that is faster than Sprint's 4g.
They already did... its was called the Iphone 3g... when they went from the SLOWER 2g to the FASTER 3g... they upped the price $10. Can you dispute that?
They UPPED the price whether you were in a 3G are or NOT.
As a matter of fact, before iphone 3g came out they had a HAD full of 3g enabled devices... but they still had the price at $20 until the iphone came along.. I imagine they raised the price to anticipate increased data usage... but if they did, what is wrong with what sprint is doing!? they obviously anticipate increase usage also... by the simple fact that you can upload HQ youtube videos and video chat??
ALSO att charges extra for video chatting now
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/software/ease-your-travels-with-video-chat.aspx?pid=1
So before you att iphone apologist ride off on your high horse please get your facts straight... pot meet kettle.
Hi Mr. Black!
You obviously cant dispute my last post... but I guess that doesnt mean you cant still go around post wrong and ridiculous information...
My job is to open your eyes... I hope it worked!
No disputes here.
AT&T upped the fee. Ok. Great.The justification for Sprint doing it (who is bleeding customers might I remind you) is what again? Putting that aside, why is justification needed anyway? If you want it, pay the $10. If not, don't pay it and don't get the phone.
Easy huh?
Perfect for watching HD videos using Flash and 4G.
Watching videos is just about all it's good for.
WinMo really cripples the HD2. The HTC Sense UI is a great interface but it can only do so much.
In terms of available apps - less than 1000 in the Windows Marketplace [for version 6.5]. You literally have to search through 4 or 5 other sites to find anything decent or worthwhile.
I kept my HD2 for a month before I ended up selling it on eBay.
No disputes here.
The justification for Sprint doing it (who is bleeding customers might I remind you) is what again? Putting that aside, why is justification needed anyway? If you want it, pay the $10. If not, don't pay it and don't get the phone.
Easy huh?
My guess is the extra 10 is to help Sprint build their 4G infrastructure. Pretty much the same reason the bump was there for the 2G iPhone to the 3G iPhone. They needed to build up their infrastructure to support more devices and need the money to do that. They can't build the towers to cover the users without the money. I don't blame either company for that.
Also, At&t AND Sprint didn't call the extra $10 fees for either of their plans for "3G" or for "4G" respectively because neither wanted to refund people who were out of coverage areas.
As for bleeding dry...
Cheapest AT&T iPhone 3Gs plan with unlimited messaging:
$39.99/Month 450 Min + Unlimited At&t to At&t
$30/Month iPhone 3G Data
$20/Month Unlimited Messaging
Total: $89.99/Month
Cheapest EVO 4G data plan on Sprint:
$69.99/Month Everything Data Plan 450Min + Unlimited Any Mobile to Any Mobile
$10/Month EVO Data
Total: $79.99
Coming from an iPhone I don't see how this is an issue... Even with the extra $10 it's still cheaper. Now, if you don't get the unlimited messaging, which to me I don't care, it ends up being up to a $10 swing the other way. For me I also get a larger corporate discount with Sprint than At&t so I still come out ahead.
Nobody is ripping anyone off here. You're getting what you pay for.