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iMessages working with email addresses because it probably was easy to verify those addresses. However, waiting to activate using phone number instead, is probably an issue with each mobile provider and trying to verify each phone number with iMessages. Throw in it's a sunday, and you probably have limited IT staff at both Apple and Mobile providers.

Makes sense. My friend is iMessaging from her iPhone 4, a slow rollout based on phone numbers seems likely.
 
Time for a new CEO. Apple is going downhill, there is no question. I am not sure why the board of directors aren't opening up their eyes and seeing that this Tim Cook moron is an idiot!!
 
Tim Cook isn't up to the task of CEO. There have been multiple blunders as of late. The execution just isn't premium. Tim Cook needs to get control of Apples software...and even from an operational aspect Apple is suffering. No minis for days on end. Its been 3 months and you still cant walk into an Apple store and get an iPhone 5. Apple is just a mess right now without Steve Jobs holding the ship together.

Tim cook is losing control. His job as CEO is clearly on the line at this point. Investors are going to want answers. He cant keep having these spectacular failures under his leadership and continue on as CEO. People were already skeptical of Apple hiring a CEO whos cor competency was not hardware/software. I think All of Apples upper management needs to check themselves and get serious about their software services if they want people to continue to pay a premium for thier hardware.

Then if you look at things from an operational perspective...Apple is suffering there too. You still cant walk i to an Apple Store and by an iPhone 5 in any model and its been out since September. The mini had almost no units available at all for sale. Its crazy really. Lte minis are taking far longer than people had expected and dates are pushed back from two weeks to months. Crazy! Tim's job as CEO is on the line.


Tim has got to go. Sign the petition!
 
How soon we forget all the wierd stuff and all the failures that went on while Jobs WAS around. Apple is a company with 30,000 employees, it's not all about one guy.

What I don't see being talked about is the fact that Apple STOLE our SMS messages in the first place without any user agreement (it's opt-out, not opt-in) and at this moment is heavily datamining private messages between a lot of people, including senior people in government, industry and so on. Why is that not seen as a big issue?
 
What I don't see being talked about is the fact that Apple STOLE our SMS messages in the first place without any user agreement (it's opt-out, not opt-in) and at this moment is heavily datamining private messages between a lot of people, including senior people in government, industry and so on. Why is that not seen as a big issue?

And what happened before iMessages? The carriers had them.
Makes no difference.

I doubt Apple cares anymore than cell carriers do of what are in our messages, if they should care at all. And if I remember correctly, iMessages are more encrypted than SMS.
 
Still not activating on my iPhone. Already switched iMessage on and off as well as exiting system preferences and restarting phone. Ugh
 

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He can't fool people like Steve could. Steve was unmatched at that game. If I was Tim, I'd watch myself.

Agreed. This iMessage problem smells a lot like the BBM fiasco a few years ago. It didn't end well for RIM. Cook has to be sweating. Apple's stock has fallen 30% over the past year. CEO's don't last long with that type of performance. Ivy is circling and ready to pounce on the kill.
 
Been down for me on and off over past several hours in Canada.

Just has a 5 minute conversation that switched between iMessage and SMS several times.
It was down in Canada before NYC. I had a friend call me this AM from Canada to tell me he couldn't iMessage me. But mine was still working at that time.
 
This sucks because I don't have unlimited texts. I don't know it isn't going as an iMessage until after it has been sent.
 
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