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[Merged] iPhone 4 pre-order only available in black / not available in white
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Well there has to be a broken batch, because for some the phone works perfectly no matter how you "deathgrip" it and for others placing just one finger in "the area" kills the signal complitely.
I am also under the impression that regardless of how easy the fix would be Apple will avoid it as it means admitting a fault where they've been denying an issue exists.
Some of it does depend on your location. At my home, I can kill it. But, at a baseball game I went to, I couldn't. Some iPhone 4's may be missing a coating or something else is wrong that is causing one iPhone's signal to die while another doesn't in the same location, but that is a by product of mass production( assuming the numbers of these lemons are low).
No hardware fix.
Again guys and gals. Remind me of which cell phine manufacturer has EVER changed a design if a phone AFTER it's release. To my knowledge none.
There have bee many cell phones I have used in the past which have had problems. All manufacturers just ignore the problems. At least Apple releases new software patches.
Look at all the nokia and SE and HTCphines which have had their fair share of hardware issue. None of those manufacturers re release the same phine which a design fix.
They just want you to live wit it until the next edition.
Heck RIM hasn't really ever fixed the UMA handoff issue I have been dealing wig fir the past three years with three separate blackberries.
I am not saying it's right. But it doesn't make seems financially to redesign a product. Apple is done with iPhone 4. They are already well onto the iPhone 5 new development.
Again guys and gals. Remind me of which cell phine manufacturer has EVER changed a design if a phone AFTER it's release. To my knowledge none.
There have bee many cell phones I have used in the past which have had problems. All manufacturers just ignore the problems. At least Apple releases new software patches.
Look at all the nokia and SE and HTCphines which have had their fair share of hardware issue. None of those manufacturers re release the same phine which a design fix.
They just want you to live wit it until the next edition.
Heck RIM hasn't really ever fixed the UMA handoff issue I have been dealing wig fir the past three years with three separate blackberries.
I am not saying it's right. But it doesn't make seems financially to redesign a product. Apple is done with iPhone 4. They are already well onto the iPhone 5 new development.
Even if Apple coats the aluminum band as others have suggested they should to fix the reception issues, you can bet your last dollar that some website will discover it. Then they'll report that there's now some coating that wasn't there on the earlier models, which will lead to them (accurately) accusing Apple of trying to hide their design flaw while offering no such solution to early adopters. And the Great Reception Wars will just go on and on.
Someone told me that they saw on "Boy Genius or something" that this did happen, but I have yet to find such an article. I take anything this person says wit ha grain of salt...have been wrong many times before.
Manufacturers should have the right to improve a product line based on customer feedback without being liable to compensating early adopters - especially if the problems are quite marginal.
Apple can conjure up a pithy aphoristic statement like: "We constantly make improvements in the way our products are manufactured in order to streamline the production cycle and maintain quality control and therefore manufacturing processes and materials are subject to change. We ensure our products are made to the highest standard available at the time of manufacture."
I agree with you. But you know that there will be an uproar from the early adopters who are having the problem but willingly chose not to return it. This board might explode.
You never know they did the same thing for the topcase on the white macbooks, it was silent and you only got the redesigned topcase if you went in to complain IIRC
They might just redesign the antenna slightly and do an antenna swap if anyone goes in to complain
They might just redesign the antenna slightly and do an antenna swap if anyone goes in to complain
I don't think enough people have returned their iPhone 4 for Apple to take it seriously.
That being said, only a redesign necessitating FCC approval will fix the problem. It has more to do with the distance our skin is from the antenna not so much the conductivity of the antenna.
That being said, only a redesign necessitating FCC approval will fix the problem. It has more to do with the distance our skin is from the antenna not so much the conductivity of the antenna.
It's a pretty bad decision not to put this phone in a case , reception issue or not. If I were you OP, I'd just avoid this phone as it doesn't seem like it's for you.
This is true. They actually changed the material used in the topcase just a few months after the MacBook release in 2006.
Maybe OP is right and the delay of the white iPhone is due to the 'death grip' - after all, they did say that there were "delays in manufacturing".
Think about this....
This is what I've been thinking. The whole bumper thing just screams "We realized after production started that this design was flawed and this our way to fix (cover up) the issue, oh and make a killing on a product with extremely high margins."
I'm willing to bet that they changed something, whether its as small as slapping some kind of coating on the antennas or something a little more.
Doesn't anyone remember the late finding that Apple wanted the FCC to hold back some documents about design and manufacturing until 45 days after release. HMMMMMMMMMMM........
This is what I've been thinking. The whole bumper thing just screams "We realized after production started that this design was flawed and this our way to fix (cover up) the issue, oh and make a killing on a product with extremely high margins."
I'm willing to bet that they changed something, whether its as small as slapping some kind of coating on the antennas or something a little more.
Doesn't anyone remember the late finding that Apple wanted the FCC to hold back some documents about design and manufacturing until 45 days after release. HMMMMMMMMMMM........
Doubt it, but it's always possible. I wouldn't expect a hardware fix until Apple releases a Verizon iPhone sometime this year, or until next year's iPhone.Do you think the white iPhone 4 will have a hardware fix?
And also for the next batch of black ones?
Perhaps some insulating material for the antennas?
I might just wait for the white ones or the next batch of black ones. ´Cause if I will have this antenna issue, I´m taking the phone back immediately!I don´t like to use cases or "hold the phone in some weird new way".
How is bad reception and dropped calls marginal? That is what a phone does, call people...