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[Merged] iPhone 4 "Silent Upgrade" / "Running Change" rumors

Anybody who thought Apple wouldn’t react was clearly a fool. It was already unprecedented that they apologized for the flaw. Apple got class, but unfortunately not enough balls to state it officially.
 
Agree with what you're saying, WeegieMac. Rightly, or wrongly, Apple are doing it their way (seemingly).

I've just compared my 'new' iPhone 4 to my friends launch day unit and the prox sensor is more visible to the eye. Not to the extent of the Gizmodo image, I do think that lighting or brightness has been adjusted, but it's definitely more visible.

Difference in the band (matte etc), can't say I notice any, looks the same to me.
 
Oh, and Cheef?

If this is a real hardware revision, and you do indeed have it, that would back up the Gizmodo story.

So I take it that your replacement doesn't have the antenna "band" on the top then, like the phone in the Gizmodo story?

If you claim to have a fixed unit, then you back up Gizmodo, which means your unit should look identical to the one photographed.

There's not going to be a fixed unit with the antenna band on top and one without ...
 
WeegieMac said:
Oh, and Cheef?

If this is a real hardware revision, and you do indeed have it, that would back up the Gizmodo story.

So I take it that your replacement doesn't have the antenna "band" on the top then, like the phone in the Gizmodo story?

If you claim to have a fixed unit, then you back up Gizmodo, which means your unit should look identical to the one photographed.

There's not going to be a fixed unit with the antenna band on top and one without ...
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My new phone does have the seam, just like the old unit. The photo on Gizmodo is at an angle that doesn't show the seam. Apple touted the band as being in 3 parts, it still is.
 
mabaker said:
Anybody who thought Apple wouldn’t react was clearly a fool. It was already unprecedented that they apologized for the flaw. Apple got class, but unfortunately not enough balls to state it officially.
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Explain how that works when they (if they have) fixed the issue but told retail employees to refuse exchanges on the basis of antenna issues?

So unless your phone develops another flaw, you won't actually get a fault free antenna version, which you are entitled to as a paying customer?

Surely you see my point?
 
fubar888 said:
If this was in fact true, why couldn't they take a picture of the old and new iPhone 4 hardware side by side?

Either Gizmodo are retards or they are lying.
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Giz are palpably retards. The only question is whether they're lying retards or honest ones. I know where my money is on that one!

WeegieMac said:
Explain how that works when they (if they have) fixed the issue but told retail employees to refuse exchanges on the basis of antenna issues?

So unless your phone develops another flaw, you won't actually get a fault free antenna version, which you are entitled to as a paying customer?

Surely you see my point?
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It's easy to send an updated memo. Maybe the "don't exchange due to antenna issues" instruction is only temporary and Apple knows there's no point replacing the hardware until rev.2 comes on stream. To admit that publicly, however, would be retail-suicide!
 
so, if i order a new phone today via the net, what are the chances of it being a 'revised' model?
 
This is interesting. I doubt that Apple would silently do this while essentially announcing there's no hardware problem - if/once found out this would open them up to huge legal challenges - even from people with no issues.

At the moment I'm not reading anything into this but... will follow with interest.
 
WeegieMac said:
If there is a recall, then it will be done properly and not on a "pretend it's ok but give fixed units to people who come in with other issues". If that did happen then as more and more people, including new customers, got these new units, it would be an even bigger PR disaster for Apple.
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I'm not saying Apple would get away with this or even that there is a hardware rev for sure, but I can tell you this exact strategy is followed with automotive defects every single day. Plenty of people pay for repairs that if they just complained to the right person, the company will pay for the repair.
 
We've been through this whole recall thing with the 27" iMac, remember the flickering, yellowing, scratching disks, loud hard disks the list goes on with those.....

As far as I'm aware they fixed the issues but I returned mine after the 4th replacement!!!!!

Anyway they never recalled those when peoe were adamant they would so can't see them recalling the iPhone tbh
 
Sherifftruman said:
I'm not saying Apple would get away with this or even that there is a hardware rev for sure, but I can tell you this exact strategy is followed with automotive defects every single day. Plenty of people pay for repairs that if they just complained to the right person, the company will pay for the repair.
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IF Apple are stocking retail stores with fixed units, then they have admitted the fault and addressed it.

However, if they allow customers to continue using the iPhone 4 they bought at launch, and simply wait those people to develop other faults in their unit before replacing them on the fly, then that's wrong.

I paid £499 for this iPhone 4. If a new and revised unit is out and replaces a unit they have admitted internally is faulty, then regardless of how well my phone works, I am entitled to the replacement unit. I shouldn't need to wait and see IF my launch model develops a fault that prompts me to go to the store first.
 
I doubt that there have been any hardware revisions. But, I do believe they are defective units out there. My iPhone4 from launch day has no issues with the proximity sensor or camera. Occasionally, I am able to reduce signal by 2 bars with the death grip but not consistently.
 
WeegieMac said:
IF Apple are stocking retail stores with fixed units, then they have admitted the fault and addressed it.

However, if they allow customers to continue using the iPhone 4 they bought at launch, and simply wait those people to develop other faults in their unit before replacing them on the fly, then that's wrong.

I paid £499 for this iPhone 4. If a new and revised unit is out and replaces a unit they have admitted internally is faulty, then regardless of how well my phone works, I am entitled to the replacement unit. I shouldn't need to wait and see IF my launch model develops a fault that prompts me to go to the store first.
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There's a lot of "ifs" there and they're all based on a website known for its mendacity regarding Apple and a n00b poster here (no offence intended).

Let's maintain some healthy scepticism until it's confirmed reliably, please.
 
Steve Jobs: I'm not happy with you revealing my precious iPhone 4. I'm considering terminating you (or at least making sure you never get into a WWDC).

Gizmodo: Lord Jobs, have mercy on us. We can make this right. We propose to put out on our blog that Apple is secretly giving the latest buyers an iPhone that has the reception issue and proximity sensor fixed.

Steve Jobs: Excellent. The Apple fanboys will believe anything and this won't cost us a dime. The media will also run with this story, since they don't really care if it's true, only just that it gets headlines. Later, when people return them, we can just give them a refurb and tell them it got extra special attention and shouldn't have the problem. Either they'll eventually learn how to hold the phone or we'll wear them down. Win-win.

Gizmodo: Lord Jobs? One question?

Steve Jobs: Yes, what now, you morons!

Gizmodo: We've always wondered why you only went with one network.

Steve Jobs: Simple. I have no friggin' idea how to make a phone, but I can make computers. Stick an "i" in front of it, and the fanboys will buy it. My marketing team actually wanted to make iPoop, but I've been kind of constipated, so that didn't work out. Anyway, if the iPhone went to other carriers, it would soon become apparent that the Phone in iPhone ain't that great. We're much happier having everyone blame AT&T. Another win-win for us.
 
I have a phone I got launch weekend. I have no issues with my proximity sensor and I can't see it above my speaker at all.
 
cal6n said:
Giz are palpably retards. The only question is whether they're lying retards or honest ones. I know where my money is on that one!
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And yet the only people saying it's missing the gap at the top (which it isn't) are the MacRumors members. It's simply being held at a slight angle to show the proximity sensor better in the light and it makes the black border around the glass appear to be the top antenna band. It isn't rocket science.

Where in the Gizmodo post do they mention the antenna gap being removed at the top?
 
BlondeBuddhist said:
HaHa. I shy away from the negative techie jargon, but as a lover of all things journalism, this "reporting" just stinks of slop.

Polls of a few hundred people are iffy at best. To report on something as substantial as a modified piece of iPhone 4 hardware due to one person is just lazy.

Blonde Buddhist
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Yet MacRumors decides to pick up another Gizmodo story, and you decide to read it and comment on it.

Maybe if MR did some of their own reporting, instead of glomming onto someone elses.

And thanks for signing your name. If only there were a way to know who wrote a post without it...

:rolleyes:
 
Really... 6 pages from ONE (1) user's photoshopped images of his iPhone 4?

Apple "CANNOT" just revamp the make of the phone, and just give out the new ones to new customers and make the original purchasers stuck with the old "antenna issue" iphone.

It's just not plausible... hell it's not even legal! I mean it's not like they are just adjusting and coming out with a new phone that's "better" because they want to... it's a flaw, a HUGE flaw.

The 30 days return is quickly approaching and I'm still torn. I like my iPhone 4 but I REFUSE to have an "older, not working properly model" just because jobs is to bull-headed to admit a MAJOR manufacturing flaw.

I guess time will tell, and for Apple, I'd imagine that time should be within the next week hopefully... before that return period is over.
 
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