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[Merged] iPhone 4 "Silent Upgrade" / "Running Change" rumors

poe8 said:
I would guess from a supply perspective they may be waiting for stores/retailers to be fully stocked with the revised model rather than announcing a recall and halting all sales. If there is a new model with antenna coating, it would almost make too much sense to allow all of the "old" models sell through at retail, the chain to be fully restocked with the new model, and then announce a recall. There would be no halt in sales, and phones would be plentiful for both recall swaps and new sales.

At east that's what I would do, and I've managed a messy project or 10.....
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Dang, I'm impressed. That's actually brilliant now that I think about it. Deny a problem until the initial rush has subsided and you've sold out the initial stock. All the while stocking up on replacements. Then once everyone is locked in and their 30 day period is over, admit the problem but say, "Voilà, your recall unit is ready to pick up immediately. Brilliant.
 
Okay bored nerds, I have a project for you:

Make one of those maps on the web where people can register their location... Forget which sites have them, maybe google maps will do it.

Get people from these forums to pin themselves to the map, and lump them into categories based on signal issues. Then overlay an AT&T coverage map of some kind.

I'll betcha the problem cases match up well with areas that have known spotty coverage from AT&T.
 
poe8 said:
I would guess from a supply perspective they may be waiting for stores/retailers to be fully stocked with the revised model rather than announcing a recall and halting all sales. If there is a new model with antenna coating, it would almost make too much sense to allow all of the "old" models sell through at retail, the chain to be fully restocked with the new model, and then announce a recall. There would be no halt in sales, and phones would be plentiful for both recall swaps and new sales.

At east that's what I would do, and I've managed a messy project or 10.....
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I love it!
 
All they did was take a pic of the phone and brighten it in a photo editor. Try it.

That's why you can now see the sensor and the camera is brighter and the blacks are grayer... gizmodo is full of it. They are on a crusade against Apple and will pay a dear price. Don't mess with a man with 41 billion dollars in cash.
 
Wow if they silently really fixed the issue, this fast, then that's amazing. Now only to get the current ones replaced!
 
Okay, a dumb question. Just where is the proximity sensor supposed to be? I looked pretty hard at the second picture in the Gizmodo article, but I could not for the life of me figure that out. :(
 
daihard said:
Okay, a dumb question. Just where is the proximity sensor supposed to be? I looked pretty hard at the second picture in the Gizmodo article, but I could not for the life of me figure that out. :(
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Apple is dropping the ball on beta testing lately.

I believe this is a recall version. There is no black notch, and yes you could see it at this angle on the original ones, proof

http://twitpic.com/255df9

I have a launch day iPhone 4 that i waited in line for for many many hours, and I am experiencing almost every single problem.

I death grip my iPhone, within 5 seconds it goes to searching, and drops whatever call or data its doing. Even without death gripping, the signal is pretty bad (and I live in the SF bay area, and my 3GS never dropped lower than 4 bars)

My camera is forever getting yellower and greener, especially around the middle and the bottom

Every once and a while it takes a good 10 clicks to get it to wake from sleep

The amount of times I've pressed mute with my face is ridiculous. and no matter, even in direct sunlight you cannot i repeat CANNOT see the proximity sensor, even if i lighten the same photo as before as bright as it will go in photoshop (twice).

http://twitpic.com/255ej4

Please let them fix these phones and call a recall, I don't want to have to banter with the Apple Representative beating around the bush to get a replacement that will most likely have the same problems.
 
kntgsp said:
And yet still more reliable and unbiased than Engadget.

Engadget has become Apple apologist central, sometimes worse than here.
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Engadget have been pretty poor about all this, but apologist central is still appleinsider.

That place is unbelievable. I think even apple fanboys know how bad it is at this stage
 
jrlepage said:
Okay bored nerds, I have a project for you:

Make one of those maps on the web where people can register their location... Forget which sites have them, maybe google maps will do it.

Get people from these forums to pin themselves to the map, and lump them into categories based on signal issues. Then overlay an AT&T coverage map of some kind.

I'll betcha the problem cases match up well with areas that have known spotty coverage from AT&T.
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I can probably save us all some effort on this one. I was having signal issues but I know I'm not in an AT&T area (I'm in Hampshire, in the UK, where AT&T don't exist).

This isn't an AT&T issue.

BTW I fixed my signal issues by return the phone and buying another 3G instead;-)
 
kalafalas said:
I believe this is a recall version. There is no black notch, and yes you could see it at this angle on the original ones, proof

http://twitpic.com/255df9

I have a launch day iPhone 4 that i waited in line for for many many hours, and I am experiencing almost every single problem.

I death grip my iPhone, within 5 seconds it goes to searching, and drops whatever call or data its doing. Even without death gripping, the signal is pretty bad (and I live in the SF bay area, and my 3GS never dropped lower than 4 bars)

My camera is forever getting yellower and greener, especially around the middle and the bottom

Every once and a while it takes a good 10 clicks to get it to wake from sleep

The amount of times I've pressed mute with my face is ridiculous. and no matter, even in direct sunlight you cannot i repeat CANNOT see the proximity sensor, even if i lighten the same photo as before as bright as it will go in photoshop (twice).

http://twitpic.com/255ej4

Please let them fix these phones and call a recall, I don't want to have to banter with the Apple Representative beating around the bush to get a replacement that will most likely have the same problems.
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Forgive me if you've said why already, but...Just curious....if you've all these problems since launch, why didn't you return your phone and try another (new)?
 
BlondeBuddhist said:
a "story" from 1 report? really? ONE repot?

Hey gizmodo, my iPhone 4 does backflips to the ghostbusters theme. Better get writing.
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not only from 1 story but they also said in the article that it wasn't confirmed and that they took one in for a replacement and there's didn't match what this kid is saying, i wonder if that 1 person was boygeniusreport.. he seems to like to make things up
 
tullys said:
I can probably save us all some effort on this one. I was having signal issues but I know I'm not in an AT&T area (I'm in Hampshire, in the UK, where AT&T don't exist).

This isn't an AT&T issue.

BTW I fixed my signal issues by return the phone and buying another 3G instead;-)
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Same here, south coast of Hampshire, UK, on O2 and had a great reception with my 3G. Spoke to Apple support about the signal loss problems on my iPhone 4, followed their restore advice (even though i'd done it before as i'm an ACMT), and it did diddly squat! I then logged into GSX (for Apple Engineers) and they had the problem down as a carrier issue, and not the hardware. I'm now taking it further.

Great phone, but like the rest of us, i'd like these problems sorted.
 
Well I'm going to throw something in the mix for any doubters.

I've just returned from an Apple Store in the UK after having my iPhone 4 replaced. Two issues I gave were the proximity sensor causing me grief and a dead pixel that bugged the hell out of me.

The Genius was quick to categorically state that the proximity sensor was absolutely fine (it wasn't, I kept muting people with my ear) - this was him clearly toeing a corporate line.

My new iPhone 4 has a more visible proximity sensor and I simply CANNOT reproduce any loss of signal by gripping the band over the seam.

Silent hardware revision, folks. It's fixed.
 
cheef said:
Well I'm going to throw something in the mix for any doubters.

I've just returned from an Apple Store in the UK after having my iPhone 4 replaced. Two issues I gave were the proximity sensor causing me grief and a dead pixel that bugged the hell out of me.

The Genius was quick to categorically state that the proximity sensor was absolutely fine (it wasn't, I kept muting people with my ear) - this was him clearly toeing a corporate line.

My new iPhone 4 has a more visible proximity sensor and I simply CANNOT reproduce any loss of signal by gripping the band over the seam.

Silent hardware revision, folks. It's fixed.
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I'd be far less sceptical if you hadn't joined this month ...
 
cheef said:
Well I'm going to throw something in the mix for any doubters.

I've just returned from an Apple Store in the UK after having my iPhone 4 replaced. Two issues I gave were the proximity sensor causing me grief and a dead pixel that bugged the hell out of me.

The Genius was quick to categorically state that the proximity sensor was absolutely fine (it wasn't, I kept muting people with my ear) - this was him clearly toeing a corporate line.

My new iPhone 4 has a more visible proximity sensor and I simply CANNOT reproduce any loss of signal by gripping the band over the seam.

Silent hardware revision, folks. It's fixed.
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We all hope you're right. Take some pictures for us or maybe make a video demonstrating the death grip with no signal loss. That'd be extremely helpful. Thanks!
 
asleep said:
Silent recall?

Why wouldn't they sing it from the rooftops to counter all the bad publicity?
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they could keep selling the newly improved phones, and once the situation has cooled down, sales-wise, meaning that the phone isn't sold out anymore, they could announce the replacement of the first-batch phones.

if they sing it from the rooftops, they wouldn't create a new sales record, but instead 'waste' newly produced phones to replace old ones, not creating an actual sale.
 
cheef said:
I joined a few minutes ago, to tell you about a phone replacement a few minutes ago. Take it as you will.
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Hear me out ...

Apple sent a memo round retail staff, it was leaked on here, stating that customers were to be rebuffed if they cited antenna issues as a reason to get a replacement.

You could say, go in citing another issue, and get one of these silent recall units you claim exist.

However, if such units do exist then it means Apple are aware of the issue and have fixed it, which means EVERY iPhone 4 owner should be entitled to an exchange.

It's highly immoral to leave defective phones out there and refuse exchanges on the grounds of the very issue they will have acknowledged if these units exist.

If there is a recall, then it will be done properly and not on a "pretend it's ok but give fixed units to people who come in with other issues". If that did happen then as more and more people, including new customers, got these new units, it would be an even bigger PR disaster for Apple.

And for the record, in sunlight or if I flash light onto my iPhone 4, I can see my proximity sensor ...
 
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