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[Merged] Motorola Droid X

if you think android is stable and a wonderful ui experience overall, boy are you going to be in for a shock.

i have a droid (as well as an iPhone 3Gs and a 4), and the droid is a pita.
 
smithrh said:
if you think android is stable and a wonderful ui experience overall, boy are you going to be in for a shock.
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While I respect your opinion of your experience, mine has been quite the opposite.

Yes, there were some issue with early releases and even some of the current updates on any version less than 2.1. It also relys heavily on the firmware and provisioning of the carrier. That hurdle has been cleared with Froyo 2.2, and this new version is stellar. Once again I remind you that this is a young OS, and yet the real advantage is the steady, constant development work that is being done. Unlike Apple that defends and refuses to accomodate the customers, the Android Ecosystem is customer friendly, and very contemporary.

The Android OS is only going to get better and better as every week clicks off. There is a lot of momentum behind this new wave of tech and many handset makers behind them. All one has to do is keep up with tech news to know that Android is becoming a force to be reckoned with. Exactly what Apple and their fanboys fear.

Finally... it's very revealing to witness the outright attacks against Android on this forum. They generally consist of nothing more than anger and criticism with no facts or technical discussion to back them up.

Citing current sales figures is one thing, but when one attacks an OS, technical facts are what counts.
 
dvader123 said:
Yes, but at least you can make calls using Android phones.

(Not an Android fan, but this is how many fans would reply.)

By the way, I know there are many who do not report having reception issues on their ip4s, but many, many more do (at least compared with Verizon). Also, a recent survey reported on macrumors even supports this so it's not just anecdotal evidence anymore.
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Okay, you imply that more people have problems than don’t. You have no basis to say that. The “survey” on MR isn’t something you can use, since most on here are the people having problems, hence a forum. All the survey on MR means is that of the people on MR that amount had problems. Even then, you can’t be sure who the trolls are.

dvader123 said:
Here's the link to the survey.

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2009/01/14/which-cell-phone-carrier-has-the-fewest-dropped-calls/

It's not from macrumors, but I first read about it there. (For some reason, I can't find it on macrumors anymore.)

The survey is taken from the general public, and it shows that AT&T service is associated with the most dropped calls, especially when you compare it with Verizon.

So whether that's due to limited bandwidth from ip users is another debate, but the fact of the matter is that AT&T phone quality is terrible.
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Come on, that survey has nothing to do with the iPhone 4. That’s about cell carriers. It’s old news. I don’t even know why you brought that up in the context of this thread.
 
-aggie- said:
Come on, that survey has nothing to do with the iPhone 4. That’s about cell carriers. It’s old news. I don’t even know why you brought that up in the context of this thread.
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Last time I checked, AT&T provided service for the iphone. Really, let's use common sense here. You have to admit that AT&T service could be better. No matter what the reasons are for the bad service, the bad service is a reality. Sure, some people do have good service, but there are many who don't. This is not based on anecdotal evidence alone, this is from people who were randomly selected to take a survey.

Since I'm getting technical, I think I should mention that this whole thing is a perfect example of confirmation bias. We want to believe what we want to believe despite objective evidence that says otherwise. I'm not saying the survey is perfect, but it is a good indicator that says that AT&T service isn't as good as the other providers in terms of dropped calls.

Again, use common sense. Also, if dropped calls were an issue on Verizon, we'd all hear about it more. We hear about dropped calls a lot more on AT&T. In fact, the issue is so big that it gets attention on the news. So let's not make any excuses for it. AT&T phone service is bad compared to the others.

Finally, I am talking about bad service because I find it humorous that iphone users would make fun of other phones by saying it's ugly or doesn't work as well as a mini-computer when many iphone users are having problems using it as a phone.

[This is not an attack on the poster who I quoted. When I say 'you', I use it to refer to people in general.]
 
I was going to get the iPhone 4, but I am instead turning to the Droid X on a 1-year contract to try it out (if Apple fixes their game by the end of that term I might come back). I've also tried the G1, myTouch, Droid, and Nexus One. I loved the N1, but went back to the 3GS just because there are some things the iPhone is smoother at, but that's based on my own personal preference, and not a fault against Android.

At this point I feel both OSes have a good maturity to them, and while Android might not have the UI polish that the iPhone does (which hopefully Gingerbread will change) it is a very capable OS. I just wish developers would see this as well, because the only thing missing from Android is a solid push from good developers to get some great apps on it like the iPhone has; AirVideo, StreamToMe, GoodReader, to name a few.
 
Hrm, comparing a released iPhone 4 to an unreleased DroidX. Considering that all the android phones have had teething issues, it's kind of hard to believe that the DroidX isn't going to have issues as well (not to mention it's coming out with 2.1 on release isn't it? Not Froyo.)
 
dulaney22 said:
After not being able to pre-order, I test drove the Evo for a week or so. Boy, I'm glad I gave Android a chance, because it is definitely a contender for your money. Swype and customization are the things two big things to me. Yes, the screen size is bigger and a welcome feature, but providing easier text entry and access to features is more important to me.

The ability to one-click anything is something I can't believe Apple hasn't incorporated. You can set up anything you want, whether a widget for Wifi, brightness, etc. or call a friend, text, email etc. If you don't want to go through several screens to turn on bluetooth . . . no problem. Customization is endless and none of it was in iOS4. It's ridiculous to navigate 4 screens just to turn on something like bluetooth. Likewise, not being able to one-click a favorite is mind boggling. You can put a web link on the home screen, so what's the difference in adding a text link? I just don't understand this rationale on what is touted as a user-friendly, simple operating system. On top of this, now I can't even double click the home button to pull up my favorite contacts.

I enter more text than anything with my phone. It may be a text, email or web entry, but I spend more time typing than talking or browsing the web. Swype is incredible and I doubt we will ever see it on an iPhone. If you don't find it to your liking, you can hit a mic button and speak in what you like. Yes, I know the have dragon on the iphone, but you have to enter it there and cut and paste over to text or email. Regardless, I want software that makes my life easier. I don't care that Apple thinks its system is better or not, I want what I want.

Yes, I know this is quirky stuborness is quintessential Apple and, many times, it love it. However, the introduction of the iPhone 4 doesn't assure me that I am with a stable platform anymore. To be honest, I love my Macs because they are reliable and easy to use. They don't get slower as they age and I don't have to worry about viruses or programs locking up all the time. I give up access to certain software, but it does everything I need and is reliable. With the iPhone, I'm already putting up with dropped calls and a crappy provider . . . now we have a phone that may be a worse "phone" than it's predecessors. On top of that, Apple's rush to sale and these unaddressed problems just don't sit well with me. Couple that with the absence of user-friendly options which nearly every new phone now has and I'm falling off the Apple mobile bandwagon. Not the computers or iPad, but mobility.

The Droid X improves on the Evo with a markedly better battery. Even though I loved the Evo, battery life was atrocious. All preliminary test of the X show it's at least on par with the iPhone. Throw in the bigger screen (which makes reading much easier and loads about double the page to view) and customization and you have a winner. On top of that, you get a great carrier in Verizon. Contrary to sentiments expressed here, the Evo was not that much more bulky than the iPhone. Of course, neither are as small, but both have larger screens. If the iPhone 5 comes out in an XL version, are you really not gonna buy it?

At the end of the day, the big plus for Apple is the iPhone is an iPhone and they have more apps. Does that make my life easier? With the customization and options Android offers, no it does not. I'm getting an X on the 15th and hope that next June a new and improved iPhone hits the market.
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Sure Android platform is nice, but just wait until you run into a malicious app that steals all your data from your phone. Openness is nice, but has its shortfalls. I already have to be vigilant with my computer (even though its a Mac); I don't want to worry about my phone.

It's nice that there is a platform that challenges Apple so it has to continue to innovate.
 
dulaney22 said:
I'm getting an X on the 15th and hope that next June a new and improved iPhone hits the market.
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Well the iPhone 4 has been voted better than the X by pretty much all major media outlets. Hell today Engadget gave the X a 7/10, while it rates iPhone 4 a 9/10. They gave the EVO a 9/10 too, and since I've actually used that phone I can confidently say I still prefer the iPhone.
 
aequitas1234 said:
EXACTLY! We need to get anyone who doesn't like the iPhone, is willing to point out its flaws, or has a dissenting view OFF OF THIS FORUM NOW!!
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I know what you mean... In all the years I have been visiting and posting to this forum I have never used my ignore list, until today. Now the list is growing and growing.
 
Apollo 13 said:
hey it's true...the Iphone's UI is so simple a retard can work it. It's nothing but tiles of apps. Well you can set an android phone up just like that but who does?
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If you really want a challenge, you should switch to Windows Mobile. After you spend a week hacking the hell out of it, you can be proud of yourself and go brag on the internet about how you got a piece of sht to work right.

UI's are supposed to make things easier. Retardation has nothing to do it.
 
I had the EVO... returned it... I couldn't deal with it being so bulky.. and the OS was laggy.. I liked the widgets but man they slowed the whole phone down. and the battery was just undersized for it...


The X is bigger? :eek: hard to imagine...
 
Dumb thread. They are both amazing phones. Keep it in perspective. My BlackBerry 8330 makes an earsplitting chirp through the earpiece when I make calls, the camera is pitiful and I've already replaced the trackball three times. Not to mention the app selection (basically none).

Who has time to sit around on the internet and argue about who's phone is better? Get the phone you want, use it and shut up. :rolleyes:
 
insidmal said:
i actually posted about this on my blog last week, here's the run down http://blog.insidmal.com/2010/06/iphone-4-vs-droid-x/
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Your blog post missed a very important facet. User experience; which includes volume of apps, quality of apps, ease of use and integration with apple products.

While I'm an android fan, you cannot just compare both phones on the specs alone. Apple has done an excellent job at providing a phone that "just works" You don't any fussing, its mail application is light years ahead of what android has. The quality of applications is above anything out there at the moment.

While I think the android platform is superior in a number of ways to the iPhone, it is wrong to just compare which processor is faster, which screen has more pixels, etc.
 
wirelessmacuser said:
I had planned on using my iPhone 4 as my primary smartphone. I was very excited after attending the keynote, but then the plan imploded when Apple delivered a crippled (by design) iPhone 4 to me. Therefore I'm entertaining other options till the next gen iPhone is released. I have a Droid now, it's a very good start for Motorola's first Android phone. The OS is young, less than half the age of iOS. Taking that into consideration, along with the always stellar phone performance of Motorola phones, makes the DROID X to be released on the 15th very compelling.

Here's an excerpt and a link:

"The disastrous manner in which Apple and its boss Steve Jobs have been handling the so-called iPhone 4 death grip has presented rivals with lots of unexpected ammunition. Nokia first jumped on the opportunity to spoof Apple’s handset by showing the various phone grips claimed not to affect its phones in any way.

And now, Verizon’s partner Motorola has taken the opportunity to take a nasty jab at Apple in a new advert promoting the July 15 Droid X launch. The image of the advert appeared on Motorola’s Facebook page late yesterday, accompanied by the following caption:

Droid X does more. Like make calls no matter which way you hold it. Available July 15th."

http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...-ridicules-iphone-4-reception-issues-2010071/
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some people can't handle the size, but some people fall in love with it and can't ever go back to something smaller. it's just something you'll have to see in person
 
Great posts. Very valid points. I just switched to AT&T. Even paid verizon to end my contract early. Not mention my company gets discounted rates through verizon. I hope apple fixes some things. If not I will simply return my iPhone and go back to verizon.
 
maflynn said:
Your blog post missed a very important facet. User experience; which includes volume of apps, quality of apps, ease of use and integration with apple products.

While I'm an android fan, you cannot just compare both phones on the specs alone. Apple has done an excellent job at providing a phone that "just works" You don't any fussing, its mail application is light years ahead of what android has. The quality of applications is above anything out there at the moment.

While I think the android platform is superior in a number of ways to the iPhone, it is wrong to just compare which processor is faster, which screen has more pixels, etc.
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What's wrong with mail on the Android? It seems pretty basic on the iPhone. Just can't imagine it being much different.
 
wirelessmacuser said:
I had planned on using my iPhone 4 as my primary smartphone. I was very excited after attending the keynote, but then the plan imploded when Apple delivered a crippled (by design) iPhone 4 to me.
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I'm calling well-played-troll on this whole thread. So you wanted an iphone 4, but being required to a) hold it differently, or b) use a case, or c) fix the SIM yourself, or d) wait for apple's fix drove you to Android? So we're supposed to believe that you really did want the iphone but any one of those 4 reasonable options was too much for you? Possible... but like I said, I'm calling troll.
 
A phone can only be as great with the carrier it uses.

I suggest anyone to always regard the carrier first no matter how great the phone might be.

I think the Droid X is too big for my taste. And I expect its battery life to be weak just like the Evo with a screen size like that. Motorola is going to have a phone twice as fast as that as early as Christmas. Why not wait?


The only Android coming from Motorola that interest me is the Motorola Milestone XT720 (aka MOTOROI). It is a brick, but I like that it is an Android phone with Xenon flash. LED is great because I can use it as a torch/flashlight and record in the dark. My Nokia N82 which had Xenon lacked an LED light I could use for low light video recording. But Xenon flash still has MORE range in low light for still pictures. Back in 2008, I predicted Motorola would make a comeback and they have made some great strides in doing so! Before Android, Motorola looked dead in the water.

Motorola-Motoroi-XT720-cell-phone-02.jpg


^^ I just hate the hump on the bottom right side.

SPECS
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_xt720_motoroi-3090.php

VIDEOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GvTNxfrwuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4okpS9dt4M


I am just looking for another phone that compliments what my iPhone 4 lacks in features. I like to own one phone I bought from a carrier and one that is unlocked that also uses the more common mini-SIM for traveling abroad.
 
QCassidy352 said:
I'm calling well-played-troll on this whole thread. So you wanted an iphone 4, but being required to a) hold it differently, or b) use a case, or c) fix the SIM yourself, or d) wait for apple's fix drove you to Android? So we're supposed to believe that you really did want the iphone but any one of those 4 reasonable options was too much for you? Possible... but like I said, I'm calling troll.
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You can call whatever you want. He didn't just make a thread and bash. He brought up very valid points. Points in which that you have disregarded and resorted to name calling. Why?
 
quotison said:
There will always be a faster [insert piece of technology here] 6 months from now.
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At the rate droid is going, it seems like every 2 months there is a new and faster piece of technology. My friends droid incredible which he just got on June 4th is now outdated a month later with Droid X. I'm glad with the iPhone, I know I'll have the best phone on AT&T for a year, which makes me happy.

No more, "hey guys I just got this cool phone" *month later* "man your phone doesnt compare to THIS!"
 
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