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[Merged] Samsung Galaxy S / Captivate Android Phone
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I got to try a captivate for a little bit. Here are the reasons why I would never own it....
1. For some reason they removed the front facing camera. I will never own another phone without one.
2. I hate all available android keyboards. No matter what the screen size, I just can't type in portrait.
3. The email client for Exchange is seriously bad compared to the iOS client.
4. Apps. Most of the iOS apps that I rely on are unavailable for android.
1. For some reason they removed the front facing camera. I will never own another phone without one.
2. I hate all available android keyboards. No matter what the screen size, I just can't type in portrait.
3. The email client for Exchange is seriously bad compared to the iOS client.
4. Apps. Most of the iOS apps that I rely on are unavailable for android.
Sounds like your biased towards Apple. Its all about what fits your needs. I can't get to an AT&T store Sunday, but I will on Monday. Nothing wrong with being an informed consumer. Of course Apple's response tomorrow will weigh in on my decision.
If the Captivate DOES come out on the 18th, I will see what Apple says tomorrow and then decide. I have dropped too many important business calls and my face has hung up on enough people. I love the iPhone and I loved my previous iPhones but this is just unbearable.
I'm hoping for some really good news tomorrow.
I'm hoping for some really good news tomorrow.
the galaxy s phones will be on all carriers, including T-Mobile.
Tmo is calling their galaxy S the 'Samsung Vibrant'
It is going to be on Verizon(called Fascinate). Just dont know when they are releasing it for sale.
I tried the T-Mobile version available today. I was pleasantly surprised. Build quality looks good. I like the size of the phone. Substantially bigger screen than iPhone and HTC Incredible, but feels very comfortable size, lightweight, thin.
Graphics performance is excellent. Screen looks very good.
I am not impressed with Samsung's software. Unnecessarily makes it look too much like the iPhone. Imitates the look without the feel. Better off leaving Android as is. Camera and video worked well although I thought the usability was worse than HTC's Sense UI on the Incredible and EVO.
If I didn't already have an HTC Incredible, I'd be tempted to try the Samsung on Verizon.
Graphics performance is excellent. Screen looks very good.
I am not impressed with Samsung's software. Unnecessarily makes it look too much like the iPhone. Imitates the look without the feel. Better off leaving Android as is. Camera and video worked well although I thought the usability was worse than HTC's Sense UI on the Incredible and EVO.
If I didn't already have an HTC Incredible, I'd be tempted to try the Samsung on Verizon.
Here is a sample somebody left on an Android Forum
Without night mode
http://i.imgur.com/4U2Gv.jpg
With Night Mode
http://i.imgur.com/Ww89N.jpg
And iPhone processor may be similar, but it isnt the same.
Why, because my opinion differs from yours? Is anybody allowed to have an opinion around here that isn't "android is the greatest"? Because of what I tried, it most certainly isn't.
When i tried to say Android was making good strides and the Galaxy looked to be a good phone, you called me an idiot and told me to "please sell your iPhone". So, it sure is funny watching you ask if it is ok to have a different opinion.
I don't know what kind of Samsung phones some of the people here have had, but the two Samsung smartphones I've owned (i730 and i760) were very good quality... especially the i730.
Because it's made by Samsung.
Every experience I've had with Samsung products has left me feeling like the entire enterprise has been half-assed.
The first was their original upsampling DVD player. The one with the "trendy" super-bright blue LED on the front. Just what I want when I'm watching a movie.
Then came the BlackJack phone ... which, even giving allowances for the general instability of Windows Mobile at the time, was the most crash prone device of any kind I've ever used.
The supposedly-awesome Samsung monitors my office set me up with ... so "good" that the same color repeated just 4 INCHES apart looked completely different. Cheapy Dell screens looked miles better.
And then a Samsung Blu-Ray/Netflix player that shipped with firmware that left all audio out of sync with the video on Blu-Ray and Netflix (but was fine on DVD), and the first update for which only fixed it "sometimes". Damn thing still fails to stream after a while, even though an Xbox 360 and a Tivo sitting right next to it will work on the same content perfectly.
I'm not anti-Android - I NEED one for development, but it has to work properly and be readily updatable to new official builds of Android (I'm not testing code I plan to sell on a hacked ROM).
The Nexus One was a bust for me due to the awful PenTile display (some people seem happy with it, I saw rainbowing and color saturation issues, along with fuzzy text the first time I picked one up), and various other hardware issues, including iPhone 4 level signal attenuation issues.
The Evo 4G I loved, except the one I bought had faulty 2.4/2.5Ghz radios/antennas ... so BlueTooth, WiFi and 4G didn't work for ****. Two units in store I could have swapped for had the exact same issue. This was just faulty hardware on those units, but still - I'm not getting locked into a contract unless you can provide me with a properly working device!
Droid X is just unappealing, and I can't put my finger on why. Too many bad experiences with Motorola and Verizon perhaps.
Maybe Google will do a Nexus Two, use an SLCD (don't get me started on the still-failing promises of all things OLED), and have Evo like specs/features, in which case I'll try that route again.
But no ... no Samsung EVER again.
Every experience I've had with Samsung products has left me feeling like the entire enterprise has been half-assed.
The first was their original upsampling DVD player. The one with the "trendy" super-bright blue LED on the front. Just what I want when I'm watching a movie.
Then came the BlackJack phone ... which, even giving allowances for the general instability of Windows Mobile at the time, was the most crash prone device of any kind I've ever used.
The supposedly-awesome Samsung monitors my office set me up with ... so "good" that the same color repeated just 4 INCHES apart looked completely different. Cheapy Dell screens looked miles better.
And then a Samsung Blu-Ray/Netflix player that shipped with firmware that left all audio out of sync with the video on Blu-Ray and Netflix (but was fine on DVD), and the first update for which only fixed it "sometimes". Damn thing still fails to stream after a while, even though an Xbox 360 and a Tivo sitting right next to it will work on the same content perfectly.
I'm not anti-Android - I NEED one for development, but it has to work properly and be readily updatable to new official builds of Android (I'm not testing code I plan to sell on a hacked ROM).
The Nexus One was a bust for me due to the awful PenTile display (some people seem happy with it, I saw rainbowing and color saturation issues, along with fuzzy text the first time I picked one up), and various other hardware issues, including iPhone 4 level signal attenuation issues.
The Evo 4G I loved, except the one I bought had faulty 2.4/2.5Ghz radios/antennas ... so BlueTooth, WiFi and 4G didn't work for ****. Two units in store I could have swapped for had the exact same issue. This was just faulty hardware on those units, but still - I'm not getting locked into a contract unless you can provide me with a properly working device!
Droid X is just unappealing, and I can't put my finger on why. Too many bad experiences with Motorola and Verizon perhaps.
Maybe Google will do a Nexus Two, use an SLCD (don't get me started on the still-failing promises of all things OLED), and have Evo like specs/features, in which case I'll try that route again.
But no ... no Samsung EVER again.
It's Android. Enough said.
In all seriousness, I just feel Android is like a PC. One company makes the software and a bunch of other companies make the hardware. This results in poor hardware/software integration. Android still doesn't have an official syncing program for music, videos, apps, and playlists like iTunes. If I had a problem with say a Droid Incredible and was given an exchange, I'd have to set it up all over again. Whereas on iPhone, I could just restore from a backup. On iPhone, I don't have to manually drag/drop media files from my computer to an SD card. The iPhone has superior software and it's keyboard is much better than the stock virtual one on Android. It's much more polished and optimized than Android. If I wanted to root/jailbreak either OS, iPhone is much easier. On Android, I'd have to flash files, ROMs, recovery image, etc. On iPhone, it's just a software tool that does it all for me. Much easier. Oh, and the battery life...
I say this because I just went from Android -> iPhone. I've used every version of Android from 1.5 to 2.1.
In all seriousness, I just feel Android is like a PC. One company makes the software and a bunch of other companies make the hardware. This results in poor hardware/software integration. Android still doesn't have an official syncing program for music, videos, apps, and playlists like iTunes. If I had a problem with say a Droid Incredible and was given an exchange, I'd have to set it up all over again. Whereas on iPhone, I could just restore from a backup. On iPhone, I don't have to manually drag/drop media files from my computer to an SD card. The iPhone has superior software and it's keyboard is much better than the stock virtual one on Android. It's much more polished and optimized than Android. If I wanted to root/jailbreak either OS, iPhone is much easier. On Android, I'd have to flash files, ROMs, recovery image, etc. On iPhone, it's just a software tool that does it all for me. Much easier. Oh, and the battery life...
I say this because I just went from Android -> iPhone. I've used every version of Android from 1.5 to 2.1.
The display isn't all that great
I didnt get to the att store in time so I stopped by T-Mobile and checked out the Samsung Galaxy Vibrant. I imagine many people wont agree with me but I wasnt all that impressed with the screen. Online pics and videos do make the Galaxy screen look great but in-person, from about 6 inches away, I could see that screen door look from the pixels.
I had my Evo and iPhone 4G right beside the Galaxy and I would say at least to me; the iPhone screen 1st, then the Evo 2nd best out of the 3. Perhaps after time away from the iPhone display, things will look better on the Galaxy but then again the Evo doesnt look bad to me at any time.
In pics, the Galaxy back cover (Vibrant and the versions like it) look awful but in person not so bad at all. As everyone keeps saying, the Galaxy is insanely lightweight for not only any Smartphone but for one with a 4 screen. Using the GUI left me feeling like things were a bit too colorful and scrolling was smooth but just off for some reason I couldnt put my finger on.
I really dislike the small iPhone screen but I think Im going to have to stick with it unless I get a replacement Evo instead. But most likely Im going to stick with the iPhone and wait and see what super 1.5 GHz Android and WP7 devices come out later this year.
I didnt get to the att store in time so I stopped by T-Mobile and checked out the Samsung Galaxy Vibrant. I imagine many people wont agree with me but I wasnt all that impressed with the screen. Online pics and videos do make the Galaxy screen look great but in-person, from about 6 inches away, I could see that screen door look from the pixels.
I had my Evo and iPhone 4G right beside the Galaxy and I would say at least to me; the iPhone screen 1st, then the Evo 2nd best out of the 3. Perhaps after time away from the iPhone display, things will look better on the Galaxy but then again the Evo doesnt look bad to me at any time.
In pics, the Galaxy back cover (Vibrant and the versions like it) look awful but in person not so bad at all. As everyone keeps saying, the Galaxy is insanely lightweight for not only any Smartphone but for one with a 4 screen. Using the GUI left me feeling like things were a bit too colorful and scrolling was smooth but just off for some reason I couldnt put my finger on.
I really dislike the small iPhone screen but I think Im going to have to stick with it unless I get a replacement Evo instead. But most likely Im going to stick with the iPhone and wait and see what super 1.5 GHz Android and WP7 devices come out later this year.
Apple's restrictions reared its ugly head today during a hot afternoon. iTunes as usual. Not really dissing iPhone 4, but I hate the tight reins Apple has on it.
Why does so many of their products have to be so reliant with iTunes? Even the five year old PSP can do software updates over wifi. Today, I wanted to add photos. It took 45 minutes to sync 1,600 pictures. I don't recall my 2G iPhone syncing that long. Made me miss the simple drag and drop of other brands. What I can't understand is if I wanted to "sync" photos from another computer, iTunes ask if it is okay to delete the other photos already in the device. You can't sync newer pix without deleting the ones already in there. Apple has a great UI for their photo gallery. Terrible management for it. Add the fact iTunes can consistently crash my computer before. It has been Apple's double-edged sword. F--- iTunes.
Going back to Samsung, I agree with the poster above me said about them. Jack of all trades, the master of none. Their handsets have terrible resell value and drop significantly after only six months. With that said, I like what Samsung is doing with their Galaxy S series. This reminds me of Mortal Kombat being released on the SNES, Gen, Game Gear, and GameBoy. Samsung is attacking in all sides! A multi-carrier release. Build great relationships wth each of them, and that's why they have a huge marketshare in the USA and surpassed even Nokia awhile back domestically. If they can cater to the masses with great prices on phones, they can dominate the USA in all ranges. $349 non-commitment for a Captivate is a great, great price for that calibur. Samsung can afford to keep it low too. They supply their own stuff. Apple's biggest mistake was not catering to all four major carriers. Their market penetration can be so much bigger. They now allowed Android to close the gap in a span of 21 months. And Apple had a 15 month headstart over Android.
Apple's mistake was not building an open platform. That's not who they are. No, their mistake was not being "open" to all U.S. major carriers. Unfortunately, that's who they are...
Why does so many of their products have to be so reliant with iTunes? Even the five year old PSP can do software updates over wifi. Today, I wanted to add photos. It took 45 minutes to sync 1,600 pictures. I don't recall my 2G iPhone syncing that long. Made me miss the simple drag and drop of other brands. What I can't understand is if I wanted to "sync" photos from another computer, iTunes ask if it is okay to delete the other photos already in the device. You can't sync newer pix without deleting the ones already in there. Apple has a great UI for their photo gallery. Terrible management for it. Add the fact iTunes can consistently crash my computer before. It has been Apple's double-edged sword. F--- iTunes.
Going back to Samsung, I agree with the poster above me said about them. Jack of all trades, the master of none. Their handsets have terrible resell value and drop significantly after only six months. With that said, I like what Samsung is doing with their Galaxy S series. This reminds me of Mortal Kombat being released on the SNES, Gen, Game Gear, and GameBoy. Samsung is attacking in all sides! A multi-carrier release. Build great relationships wth each of them, and that's why they have a huge marketshare in the USA and surpassed even Nokia awhile back domestically. If they can cater to the masses with great prices on phones, they can dominate the USA in all ranges. $349 non-commitment for a Captivate is a great, great price for that calibur. Samsung can afford to keep it low too. They supply their own stuff. Apple's biggest mistake was not catering to all four major carriers. Their market penetration can be so much bigger. They now allowed Android to close the gap in a span of 21 months. And Apple had a 15 month headstart over Android.
Apple's mistake was not building an open platform. That's not who they are. No, their mistake was not being "open" to all U.S. major carriers. Unfortunately, that's who they are...
No, I'm 6 feet tall with proportionately sized hands. I just don't think a phone needs to be that big. The size doesn't make things possible that aren't possible on the 3.5" screen the iPhone has. It just makes the phone larger for no reason.
I guess to each his own......Then again I only feel that the iPhone screen is too small because I'm so used to devices with 4" to 4'3" screens since 2004 (PDA's). Once you try a larger screen, its hard to go back to something smaller just like with a home TV or notebook.
My fingers and eyes like the Evo screen much more than the iPhone screen and even though I find it silly to watch films on any pocket screen (I'm a filmmaker), the experience is nicer on the Evo screen hands down. Really, I wish the Galaxy, iPhone and Evo could have a threesome and produce the perfect (perfect for now) device......
Nice coverup. You know I can't because a mod deleted it after the response i gave you. It's ok, someone Else also responded to you refering to us as idiots as well. You will get no apology and you don't deserve one.