Like making a phone call? I've dropped nearly 50% of my phone calls. Not very straight forward. I do like the HD camera though.
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[Merged] Sprint / HTC Evo vs. iPhone 4
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Like making a phone call? I've dropped nearly 50% of my phone calls. Not very straight forward. I do like the HD camera though.
jclardy
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The problem with Android is that it was designed and coded to run on as wide an array of hardware as possible. This means that no Android phone uses hardware acceleration on the UI elements. Doing both the loading and graphics processing on the single processor cores in today's cell phones makes the interface appear to lag.
iOS on the other hand was designed to run on specific hardware, meaning it can take advantage of all the features and extra instructions of the cpu to improve speed. Since Apple's hardware engineers work together with the software engineers the phone is already being optimized, not being optimized by third parties after it is released. Jailbreaking does not try make your phone faster, it just tries to make it more open.
yes come to the dark side 😛
(i just said that because it was cool and since my pic it the fett man). but we all know apple is the good guy 😀
(i just said that because it was cool and since my pic it the fett man). but we all know apple is the good guy 😀
cleric
macrumors 6502a
So true I can't stand the fact that even on the newest phones with 1ghz snapdragons the scrolling is still not smooth and this problem has existed since the G1. The whole UI is a mess to be honest. There is some cool things that Android can do but ultimately it doesn't do the main tasks well enough.
That's the way I feel about it as well. It reminds me of what you get from the iPhone jailbreak community, a lot of customization, but not much polish and not necessarily very well-designed.
I resent the simplistic way you've represented me- I don't consider myself 'loyal' to anybody... but, yes- I've had great experiences with Apple's products in the past, so they've really earned my trust.. when I'm in the market for a new gadget, Apple is where I look first, but not always last.
Now, I didn't mean Google makes an inferior product because of this as much as I just wanted to point out how much of a free pass they get in the press. Should a google product come out that blows me away, I'll happily oblige... I'm just always conscious of where a company's interests lie, ie where's the money come from?
Also, the difference (IMHO) between Apple entering the phone market and Google is that Apple entered at their own risk. Google releases a "free" operating system that gets adopted by hardware manufacturers and get all the benefit of entering a competitive market without actually having to compete.
There's an amazing thing happening with mobile phones- people use them to find things that they spend money on more then they do on a desktop computer.
The ultimate goal of Google's operating system is to collect habitual data from as many users as possible. To be the first responder with search results and have the first crack in connecting vendors to consumers through advertising.
All I'm saying is that I'm MORE inclined to buy a car from a car company, a piano from a piano company and a gadget from a gadget company.
I'm a somewhat of an Android proponent but I completely agree with these comments.
Android merely provides guidelines for developers, and too few at that. Apple doesn't give a choice. Developers must do it a certain way or else.
I think either approach goes too far. As you said, Android feels like the wild west, anarchy, no rule of law, just mob justice. But iPhone feels like 1984 dictatorship, controlling your every move. Approving what you're allowed to see and not see.
I wish there was a middle ground. Freedom with well defined rules that must be followed.
We'll see how each develops over time.
I know that everything you said about the EVO is real because it's your personal experience, but I couldn't help but think that an EVO fan would probably reply by saying that at least you could make a phone call with the EVO.
I mean, that is the biggest problem with apple/at&t, no? And that is a big problem. In fact, the most important function of a phone is the make calls not internet, facetalk, etc.
By the way, I don't own an EVO or an iphone, although I would like an iphone, but I am just trying to play devil's ad in this discussion.
Lots of us with the iPhone 4 are having no trouble making calls. Mine has been able to stay connected in several spots where my 3GS would drop every time. The reception hasn't been an issue for me at all.
marksman
macrumors 603
This is the issue... The people having this problem want to believe it is a much bigger problem than it really is. Obviously now that the initial hysteria dies down, it is not nearly the problem, which I guess for people having legitimate issues, means it will not be as pressing.
I suspect though, without the media coverage, that 99% of the people complaining about the dropped call issues, would not have thought twice about it, had they not known about it. In other words once someone posted a video everyone started molesting their phones and people started to look for monsters under the bed.
What some people who are having a problem can't understand is there are a lot of people not having an issue. Which is evidence itself that the problem is a little bit more complex.
If everyone was having the exact same problem that was easily reproducible the problem would be easily to address, but that is not the case, not the case at all.
You dont consider 32% of iPhone's having this issue a big deal? Its a HUGE deal. If it were 2-5% then yes, not a big concern, but 32%?
I love the fairytales this kid is telling. And even if the whole 128 GB storage space tale is true, do you think this is a viable option for your everyday user? This is where the android users fail to think. Do they think that every potential Android user is a tech god?
I'd loooooooooooove to see where you got that number from. Enlighten me with your extremely valid source.
The point is that I'm betting of that 32%, there is a decent amount that never would have even noticed if they hadn't been told about it.
I know I wouldn't have (mine does it but it doesn't disconnect the call and honestly you have to try to get it to reproduce the problem. Sometimes it will lose some bars, a few times I got it to lose all bars but it never lost connection entirely, and many times it either would lose just a bar or do nothing).
Some people wouldn't hold hte phone in a way that causes it to lose connection so they'd never notice. And honestly, how hard is it to learn how to hold it differently? Yes, it's annoying. No, you shouldn't have to have a case or hold it differently.
On top of that it doesn't mean the phone can't make a call like some people are crying about (even going as far as saying, "What if you are in an emergency and need the phone?" It can still call out! It's just annoying). It means you have to compromise something to use it. For some people, it's not an option (they don't want to hold it differently and hte phone isn't worth it nor do they want to have a case). And for them, I say don't get the phone or return it. Apple will get the message and decide if it is worth fixing it.
For some people, they like the phone enough they're willing to make a compromise (I'd fall in this catagory if it affected my calls and now I'm paranoid of dropping it with all the shatter stories and hte fact that State Farm won't insure cellphones anymore I have a case on it anyways. So I compromised for a different reason as I originally didn't want to put a case on it).
So, yes, it is an issue. Yes, I'd be very happy to see Apple fix it. No, I don't think it's as horrible as people make it out to be. When I first heard about it, I was afraid it was it lost connection if you touched the antenna at all (that's a lot more of a compromise on how you can hold it). I was relieved to learn it was just one corner as it honestly isn't that hard to learn to avoid that corner. I shouldn't have to but you know what, flaws happen.
What is getting annoying is people acting like this means Apple is the most evil company out there or that they are entitled to stuff like free macbooks cause of the flaw(yes, I saw some one seriously propoes that in one thread). They are entitled to Apple fixing the flaw. And if not, if it really upsets them, they can vote with their money. I realize that some people are upset caues they want to like the item and this is ruining it for them (and they don't want to have to give up on it). To them I say, give Apple some time to actually come up with a fix. And if not, sorry, you're going to have to make a choice on if it is worth it or if the phone isn't worth it and you are going to vote with your money elsewhere.
ChocolateApple
macrumors 6502
Droid is a Hooptie
Yaaay! I'm going to save your post to ward off Droid zombies. Two already came at me on my Facebook acct.
To me, the Droid is that raggedy car owned by that guy who takes the hand-me-down car and soups it up (e.g. Pimp My Raggedy Ride). He shows off the spinning rims, new engine, fur car seats, game console in the trunk, Bose sound system and TVs on the back of every seat. But at the end of the day, it's a crap car with a bunch of goodies. It looks interesting, but it's not functioning like an Escalade that was MEANT to have those features.
All of these other phones are trying too hard to keep up with Apple. They have cool features, but too much energy goes into making it swipe like the iPhone, making the icons like the iPhone's, giving it apps like the iPhone's. All the while claiming to be superior to the iPhone but falling short mainly in those areas where it tries to copy.
Yaaay! I'm going to save your post to ward off Droid zombies. Two already came at me on my Facebook acct.
To me, the Droid is that raggedy car owned by that guy who takes the hand-me-down car and soups it up (e.g. Pimp My Raggedy Ride). He shows off the spinning rims, new engine, fur car seats, game console in the trunk, Bose sound system and TVs on the back of every seat. But at the end of the day, it's a crap car with a bunch of goodies. It looks interesting, but it's not functioning like an Escalade that was MEANT to have those features.
All of these other phones are trying too hard to keep up with Apple. They have cool features, but too much energy goes into making it swipe like the iPhone, making the icons like the iPhone's, giving it apps like the iPhone's. All the while claiming to be superior to the iPhone but falling short mainly in those areas where it tries to copy.
ReallyBigFeet
macrumors 68030
Well said, they really do represent two extremes. Ironically, I believe Windows Mobile fits this middle ground, but I'm afraid their ship has sailed.
Got my Evo today ! Must say I'm glad I made the switch. Given the new issues with the iphone cameras. My plan is cheaper no data caps and I love the screen size. Much for fun playing Homerun 3D on that 4.3 inch screen. Did some research and found the battery issue is due to all the different features running. Made some adjustments battery lasted 14 hours off the charger ! Thanks for all the help to the posters with actual info. Thanks to the haters who have no true knowledge of anything and only know how to make 5th grade comments. I returned the iphone after 2 hours because it couldn't perform it's main purpose which is making calls right. Simple as that. Guess small minds can't comprehend the simple things.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using Swype on the Sprint Now Network
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Sorry, it actually said as many as 28-32%
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/apple-addresses-iphone-4-reception-problems/2010-06-25
Nice! You even downloaded Swype! Its so awesome, I could never go back to a standard keyboard again.
GfPQqmcRKUvP
macrumors 68040
No not leaving. I can post anywhere I want you probably didn't know that. Dudes in here act like the iphone is your mom and I banged her LOL. Really pathetic. If someone said they don't like the PS3 cause they have an xbox I wouldn't bash em. You dudes in here are some lames.
I have calls to make don't have time to sit around and wait with a broken phone while Steve Jobs just says "don't hold it that way" while his new iphone is already fixed of any problems that popped up.
Still have my iPod touch .... but since I got my Evo its an iPod No-Touch. Putting iOS 4 on it soon. More like later though🙂
I have calls to make don't have time to sit around and wait with a broken phone while Steve Jobs just says "don't hold it that way" while his new iphone is already fixed of any problems that popped up.
Still have my iPod touch .... but since I got my Evo its an iPod No-Touch. Putting iOS 4 on it soon. More like later though🙂
Uh, a lot of apple users are brainwashed. my old roomie from back in the day used to actually come up to me with this superior attitude and try to say stupid stuff like how apple's one button mouse is superior to a multi button mouse
You must be seeing things. I didn't see any mention of a percentage of affected users. However, even if I did, I don't count "fiercewireless.com" as a credible website. I've never even heard of it.