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No way Apple announces a $3,000 headset and expect the average Joe to buy it when they see a $300 one.

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I was at checkout at Walmart a few hours ago and there were wireless buds that looked just like Apples, with packaging promises hitting the highpoints of Apples... priced at $19.99.

If average Joes are not paying up for Apple stuff, us fans must have personal warehouses stuffed to the brim with it all. STUFFED! ;)
 
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Meta/Facebook are VERY happy that Apple is entering the market… It will make their stock prices jump back up, and they will have much easier time going forward.
You're not wrong, but Facebook as a company/brand will always reek w/ foul stench as long as their wallets continue to be lined by advertising money alone.
 
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why the meta hate?
Hmmm .. here are five reasons:
  1. Promoting misinformation and amplifying hate,
  2. Tracking people who don’t use their services,
  3. Holding the Facebook pages of Australian hospitals, charities, and emergency services hostage as leverage amid discussions with the country’s government regarding reform proposals,
  4. Leveraging sensitive user data to aim ads at teenagers who say they feel “anxious” and “worthless.”,
  5. Cambridge Analytica.
Of course you may not have heard of these if you get your news from Facebook.
 
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You might want to check:
  • Android (cheap) smart phone prices and then edit the post.
  • cheap PC prices and then edit the post.
  • Amazon cheap tablet prices and then edit the post.
  • cheap smart watch alternatives and then edit the post.
  • Etc.
I was at checkout at Walmart a few hours ago and there were wireless buds that looked just like Apples, with packaging promises hitting the highpoints of Apples... priced at $19.99.

If average Joes are not paying up for Apple stuff, us fans must have personal warehouses stuffed to the brim with it all. STUFFED! ;)
If Apple charges $3000 for their VR Headset is because it’s worth it.
When the iPad came out back in 2010 it seemed like a madness to spend almost $800 on a tablet that had no physical keyboard and no ports.
Mine paid off by itself in about a week.
Thanks to it I was able to do work I would not have been able to do at that time, because I was not carrying my laptop, only my iPad.
 
This reeks of rushing the announcement. Also that they put this out today but who knows if they will try to cram in new features by September based on what Apple announces.

I'm no Meta fan but this is a darned if they do darned if they don't decision here. If I were on their team I think I would have decided to announce in advance of Apple as well. We know the media handles Apple releases with kid gloves and tends to react like Apple just invented whatever they announce so to avoid that perception Meta doesn't have much of a choice.

That said, unless Apple has a real killer use for their VR/AR device outside of gaming then its going to be an uphill battle. Meta owns VR gaming right now because much like the iPhone and the app store Meta already has a large existing library of VR games in their app store and they have a quality and more importantly very affordable headset to go with it. Couple that with the fact that their Quest VR can also be used to play Steam PC VR games and its difficult to see why someone would pick anything else. Even if the Apple VR/AR is more powerful, higher resolution and it launches with a few AAA games it still won't be able to compete with the massive and existing library Meta and Steam already has and that's while still costing multiple times more. If you're someone who wants to pay the premium for a maximum processing power you're better off connecting a Quest 3 to a PC with an RTX 4090. Sure its not power efficient but you'd be getting a GPU that even the M2 Max can't come anywhere close to.
I'm not saying the Apple offering won't be great. I'm just pointing out that it will be a hard sell to gamers to pitch a considerably more expensive device that only has access to a few games, has no PC compatibility and zero track record.

Now, if Apple has a special use outside gaming that just turns the world on its head then that might be something else. People have been dreaming of how the future of VR could look since the 90's though and I'm skeptical that Apple has thought of something that no scifi dreamer has ever considered. I guess we'll see Monday though.
 
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If Apple charges $3000 for their VR Headset is because it’s worth it.
When the iPad came out back in 2010 it seemed like a madness to spend almost $800 on a tablet that had no physical keyboard and no ports.
Mine paid off by itself in about a week.
Thanks to it I was able to do work I would not have been able to do at that time, because I was not carrying my laptop, only my iPad.

I had the 2nd iPad ever and I'll tell you while it was an amazing couch browser for its time in no way was it capable of replacing my MacBook for anything approaching real work. Depending on what you consider work its arguable that the iPad of today can't replace a Mac but regardless it most certainly could not replace it then.
I'd say Apple had better have a heck of a use for a VR headset if they really plan on charging $3000. I'm talking a need that your mom, uncle and next door neighbor will see and immediately recognize. If this thing doesn't have mainstream appeal then its going nowhere fast.
 
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Not the first time we have seen desperation in advance to an Apple major product announcement.
It looks a solid device, if the full colour pass-through is rapid and vibrant that's a huge step compared to a lot of headsets. Solid price too. Just a shame its Meta
 
VR Wars Episode V: Zuck Strikes Back

It is a dark time for Apple. Although the M2 has been released, Meta troops have driven the Apple headset from it's hidden development and pursued it across the meta verse.


Evading the dreaded Meta Zuckfleet, a group of freedom fighters led by Tim Applebiter has established a new secret VR Pro on the remote ice state of Alaska.

The evil lord Darth Zucker, obsessed with finding old Applebiter, has dispatched thousands of remote Metamates into the far reaches of the Metaverse….
you win the internet today, sir
 
since when size equates weight?
I didn't "equate" it, it's a simple matter of association of "bigger->heavier", which humans have done, since forever. The actual weight is still unknown.

Obviously if the headset would weigh a lot less that would be an improvement. I’m not saying it won’t. It might. But if it was a substantial difference wouldn’t they mention that?
They mentioned "more comfortable" which to me sounds like a lighter headset is more comfortable. They're saving the specs for the official announcement obviously.

early reports suggesting the weight will be about the same as Quest 2...

I guess I can keep laughing then?
I didn't say you couldn't. I'm just curious as to why even laugh at the slimmer design. I don't see anything saying they'll weigh the same. Let's assume the weights are the same. The slimmer design means the weight of the headset is closer to your face, which means better weight distribution. How is that even funny?
 
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Hmmm .. here are five reasons:
  1. Promoting misinformation and amplifying hate,
  2. Tracking people who don’t use their services,
  3. Holding the Facebook pages of Australian hospitals, charities, and emergency services hostage as leverage amid discussions with the country’s government regarding reform proposals,
  4. Leveraging sensitive user data to aim ads at teenagers who say they feel “anxious” and “worthless.”,
  5. Cambridge Analytica.
Of course you may not have heard of these if you get your news from Facebook.
Oh. Facebook, like Google, is an ad Company. Android, gmail, chrome is no better. Google have stolen your privacy and share it with the government and other companies
 
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Oh. Facebook, like Google, is an ad Company. Android, gmail, chrome is no better. Google have stolen your privacy and share it with the government and other companies


and apple profits off of each one of these companies so apple is just as evil.
 
Oh. Facebook, like Google, is an ad Company. Android, gmail, chrome is no better. Google have stolen your privacy and share it with the government and other companies
I agree 100%. That’s why I don’t use Google, Android, gmail, chrome, any Facebook products, and any social media (exception was Twitter, but switched to mastodon after the recent change of ownership).
 
I plop my Quest 2 on every few months to do some chill fishing from my couch, but the novelty of VR wore off pretty quickly after purchasing it. I'll have to remember that once I'm hyped after the Apple Event. The 3K price tag will help assuage my FOMO as well.
Check out the game Demeo next time you have the Quest 2 on...

 
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I didn't say you couldn't. I'm just curious as to why even laugh at the slimmer design. I don't see anything saying they'll weigh the same. Let's assume the weights are the same. The slimmer design means the weight of the headset is closer to your face, which means better weight distribution. How is that even funny?
What's funny is that their marketing claim is an illusion and not reality: the super thick "facial interface" in a near fully-dark color and the "slim" front portion in near fully-light color is an age-old visual trick to make areas of a composition appear smaller or farther away by reducing brightness.
 
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