Whoa... did you even read his post? Where did he indicate he was fussed or anything? What's wrong in stating that there is a briefing at such and such time? He's just relaying the news, jeez
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Michael Jackson - Dead at 50 (Cardiac Arrest)
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Whoa... did you even read his post? Where did he indicate he was fussed or anything? What's wrong in stating that there is a briefing at such and such time? He's just relaying the news, jeez
I saw no zealousness in Anuba's post, but I did perceive a measure of unwarranted hostility in your post.
Let's lighten things up a bit. 
When Farah Fawcett got to heaven, and went through the pearly gates, she was greeted by God.
"Wow!" exclaimed the Holy Ghost. "We really enjoyed your work here. Especially Charlie's Angels! I still have a poster in my office of you with that red bikini!"
Farah is a little taken aback. "Thank you, Lord..."
Jehovah goes on, "Well, I have a special reward for you. I'm prepared to grant you one wish. Have anything in mind?"
Not one to act selfish and change God's opinion of her, Farah thinks for a second and decides upon a wish. "I'd like for all the children of the world to be safe and sound forever."
"Done!" exclaims the Heavenly Father.
He snaps, and Michael Jackson appears next to Farah.
When Farah Fawcett got to heaven, and went through the pearly gates, she was greeted by God.
"Wow!" exclaimed the Holy Ghost. "We really enjoyed your work here. Especially Charlie's Angels! I still have a poster in my office of you with that red bikini!"
Farah is a little taken aback. "Thank you, Lord..."
Jehovah goes on, "Well, I have a special reward for you. I'm prepared to grant you one wish. Have anything in mind?"
Not one to act selfish and change God's opinion of her, Farah thinks for a second and decides upon a wish. "I'd like for all the children of the world to be safe and sound forever."
"Done!" exclaims the Heavenly Father.
He snaps, and Michael Jackson appears next to Farah.
show some respect for a great artist who has just died and the soil is still wet and he's not even been buried yet, and maybe later you can trash talk all you want.
A great delicate artist has passed away and must be mourned and his life celebrated.
btw, big deal a bunch of nerds debating a true artist's plastic surgery on the net...what a piece of work some of you are...
A great delicate artist has passed away and must be mourned and his life celebrated.
btw, big deal a bunch of nerds debating a true artist's plastic surgery on the net...what a piece of work some of you are...
No it's not. Especially as a mod.
Mods are human and at times may get caught up in the discussion a bit too much like we all do.
Apparently, there are differing opinions about MJ.
Bottom line, is that MJ is no longer with us. His music was an inspiration to many fans and artists alike. He was a troubled soul who has hopefully found peace at last.
You'll notice I've assiduously resisted modding this thread, I killed duplicate threads as the news broke and I did what I'm tasked to do here, keep the place clean, someone called me a janitor, well here's to pride of purpose in a disregard job.
I clearly have a strong counter opinion to the majority of people at the moment, but I absolutely will not be told to shut up and stop posting.
Enough of it, I sat a watched a series of MJ videos on Channel 4 with the wife over dinner, she's a big fan, and spent an hour teaching our daughter to moonwalk...
it's a shame such a talented man was reduced to such a pointless death.
That is the thing with having an opinion, you will always meet others with differing ones.
Does that mean that you should compromise yours? No.
Otherwise what would we be doing in a forum?
A couple things after reading through this thread:
1. Yesterday afternoon I took a long bike ride before work in the adjacent neighborhoods to where I live/work. On my way towards work, I was struck with the reaction to his death across all walks-of-life. I saw older black men/women lamenting it (one actually flagged me down in the street to tell me the news), to housewives discussing it while with their kids on the street, to hipsters on their iphones talking about it at bar patios - he definitely had an effect on popular culture. We played his "hits" last night at work, and our very diverse clientele were all cognizant of why and most were bobbing their heads or tapping their fingers to the tunes...
2. As to the whole "molester" legacy - I don't know what the truth of the matter is/was - and now that he has died - I certainly don't care now. I do remember one thing from his trial though - A reporter asked him "if he (michael) didn't think it was inappropriate to share a bed with these little kids..." - to which MJ replied " No, I think that it is a natural thing to offer under the circumstances, and it is YOU guys who have made something innocent into something so inappropriate". I will always remember thinking that MJ certainly had some balls, whether or not his point was grounded in truth.
While his passing has not even made my life skip a beat, it is still the passing of a music phenomena and a very unique person/product of our modern era. RIP
1. Yesterday afternoon I took a long bike ride before work in the adjacent neighborhoods to where I live/work. On my way towards work, I was struck with the reaction to his death across all walks-of-life. I saw older black men/women lamenting it (one actually flagged me down in the street to tell me the news), to housewives discussing it while with their kids on the street, to hipsters on their iphones talking about it at bar patios - he definitely had an effect on popular culture. We played his "hits" last night at work, and our very diverse clientele were all cognizant of why and most were bobbing their heads or tapping their fingers to the tunes...
2. As to the whole "molester" legacy - I don't know what the truth of the matter is/was - and now that he has died - I certainly don't care now. I do remember one thing from his trial though - A reporter asked him "if he (michael) didn't think it was inappropriate to share a bed with these little kids..." - to which MJ replied " No, I think that it is a natural thing to offer under the circumstances, and it is YOU guys who have made something innocent into something so inappropriate". I will always remember thinking that MJ certainly had some balls, whether or not his point was grounded in truth.
While his passing has not even made my life skip a beat, it is still the passing of a music phenomena and a very unique person/product of our modern era. RIP
Fair enough!
Thanks!
Of that, we can agree.
One thing for certain, MJ's popularity around the world is huge.
We still have a copy of Moonwalker on VHS tape around the house somewhere. This might be the weekend to watch it again, but finding a VCR that still works might be even harder than finding the tape.
The Speed Demon claymation was the best part of that mini-movie.
The Speed Demon claymation was the best part of that mini-movie.
Isn't that the truth.
Talk about Michael, his life and death, will dominate conversation for many months to come.
What I found surprising is how many people who didn't listen to his music found so many details of his life fascinating. Not too many years ago, there were tabloid fascinations with Princess Di, Roseanne and Oprah, and details of their lives that really had nothing to do with anybody. The press then sought the details because they knew any news about these people, including the most banal details, would sell magazines and tabloids.
What I find sad is that there is this morbid fascination with Michael's music all of a sudden with the gigantic surge in iTunes sales. It's one thing to like Micheal's music and be a fan and to mourn his death, it's another to have this tabloid fascination over his life and sudden death. It's starting to get gross watching CNN and all the speculation and gossip before any real details are confirmed over his cause of death, drug use, and what his doctor did or did not do for him.
I remember the same false gossip and conjecture turned up when Ronald Reagan was shot in the early 1980s. A couple of networks said he was dead, there was endless speculation that the shooter had a connection to Fidel Castro, and before the truth was known about John Hinckley Jr., some thought the assassination attempt was a prelude to WW III. Eventually the conspiracy theorists were shut up, and when we finally find out the truth about Michael, I seriously doubt that they will find he was as doped up as Elvis was in his last years. It's too hard for the press not to make parallels between the two, but my guess is that Michael did some drugs (medication), and that he died from the cause of those, stress, his age, and preparing for a huge tour.
Michael Jackson's Doctor is M.I.A.
Police are looking for him
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/26/michael-jackson-doctor-morphene-demerol-lapd-overdose/
Police are looking for him
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/26/michael-jackson-doctor-morphene-demerol-lapd-overdose/
For you people asking about what happens with the rights to the Beatles' songs...
It's been reported that Michael willed the Beatles' songs to McCartney, ending the near 25 year old feud with McCartney.
Good on MJ to do this, and I think it's pretty cool that he did. Terribly sad that it had to happen this way, though.
BL.
It's been reported that Michael willed the Beatles' songs to McCartney, ending the near 25 year old feud with McCartney.
Good on MJ to do this, and I think it's pretty cool that he did. Terribly sad that it had to happen this way, though.
BL.
No. They just stopped because Reagan survived. There's a well known phenomenon called epistemic bias which leads (some) people to assume that cause and effect must be of equal proportions.
Studies were made where four different test groups were presented with one scenario each, all involving an assassination attempt on a ficticious president. Group A were told that the assassin(s) missed the target and the president escaped unharmed. Group B were told that he was injured and hospitalized, but survived. Group C were told that he was injured and hospitalized, slipped into a coma and died after a few days. Group D were told that he died immediately. Then they were asked to speculate who was behind the attempt. Group A (=he survived unharmed) leaned toward the lone nut theory. Group D suggested a massive conspiracy involving everyone from the CIA to the mafia to terrorists to Castro. Groups B and C were somewhere inbetween.
The joke's on them, of course, since there is no difference in cause between these scenarios. The assassination attempt is the same. The outcome (A, B, C or D) is more or less random. A slight twitch in the assassin's muscles or some strong wind can make the bullet miss by an inch. If Reagan had died, conspiracy theorists would still be discussing who really was behind it, while chuckling at the "sheep" who think some "patsy" named Hinckley did it.
MJ is dead, so the field is open and conspiracy theorists are already on the case, like the clever little Sherlocks they think they are. Give them a couple of days and they'll have linked it to Rumsfeld, Rove, Obama, Scientologists, the KKK and LaToya.
Michael Jackson is immortal now...
Imagine... You meay leave family and loved ones behind who do care. You might have been a good friend to someeone 10 years later if you had stayed alive and not wasted it on such activities. So when I say it is NOW that counts, I mean it is the NOW but with an eye to the consequences of your actions. This also means that if you decide to live your life like a jerk you will essentially have wasted your life. Yes, in that case you did make an impact but the impact was negative. People would generally be better off if you had never lived. Therefore you should make a point of making a positive contribution to everyone around you, make sure that when you die and cease to exist, people will notice and miss you. This missing and mourning is not a bad thing - that is just their way of honoring you and allow you in a sense to live on in a way after you are dead.
For example Julius Caesar - he has been dead for over 2000 years. Yet, every time you make an appointment and agree with someone to meet on a certain date. You can send a little "thank you" to Julius Caesar as it is due to him we have the calendar we have today. Sure, if he didn't do it, sooner or later someone else would have done it. However, he did it and so we honor him and in this sense he will have if not eternal life so at least live as long as we use that calendar - which is probably going to last for a long time still.
So one way to "live forever" is to make a name for yourself - be famous! However, in this case it does not so much matter if the impact is positive or negative. Adolph Hitler also "live forever" in this sense but most of us do not associate anything positive to his name. We generally think that life and history would have been better if he had never been born. So instead of honoring his name we curse his name. So, not only make a name for yourself, try also to make a postive name for yourself, do a positive contribution to society!
Even in the small. If you one day find you are elderly and you don't have much famliy who visit you any more and you don't have many friends who are left alive. Yet, every day you go to the park and feed the birds. The birds surely will appreciate that you are there and if you one day pass away and do not show up there, they will go hungry until some other old man and woman come and sit on that bench and feed them. Even this - albeit small - contribution to the world IS a contribution and is as such something that allow you in a sense to have what I would consider to be "eternal life" - that you make a postive impact on the world around so that when you are gone you will be missed.
This to me is then the meaning of life. Make sure you LIVE and that you make a POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION to the world around you. Do this and you will live forever.
Sorry.....no pity for him, his family, or his kids here. The news was fascinating for about an hour--just one less idiot to take up headlines...such a relief not to have to hear anything more about him with the exception of the occasional MJ sightings like the whack jobs did with Elvis years back or those 2pac conspiracy theorists who think the Earth is flat and the moon landing was staged. Move on to the next big stars garbage can and keep the stupid entertained.
That's interesting, because I have a very different philosophical outlook on life, yet we both reached the same conclusions. I agree, the most important thing to do in life is make the most of your time here. Enjoy yourself as much as possible, and help other people enjoy themselves as much as possible too. And I think MJ did a pretty darn good job of that.
Nice post.
Not quite as nice, is it? I mean, the hate is spreading to his kids now? Agree on the nut jobs, though. Accept it and move on, like you have to with your own family.
Agree. I think a voice/music over would be much better.
Pretty good advice I would think.