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Microsoft Announces New 'Surface' Tablet, New Hardware and Software Based on Windows 8
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I didn't claim to know everything about iCloud. Maybe you can fill me in? I know millionaires that complain about the cost of living. Kudos to you for being the consumer that companies love.
yes, an iOS supported keyboard with trackpad. is that too far outside of the box for you to imagine?
what do you mean it's not designed for it? have you ever used CloudOn or Smart Office? having a functional trackpad would do WONDERS when doing real work
hmm vents? this seems more like an ultra portable laptop than a tablet to me.
While this may seem game changing, I need more information of battery life, price and a better look at the Windows 8. Was there any software demo at this hardware release? Like showing the tablet in action?
While this may seem game changing, I need more information of battery life, price and a better look at the Windows 8. Was there any software demo at this hardware release? Like showing the tablet in action?
I still think this thing will fail. No price, no real world demos, nothing. Announce a product before it's even ready to ship to stir up trouble for others to see how they react and to make changes. This is typical Microsoft strategy.
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honestly, the tablet is a meh for me. yeah it looks good on paper that means crap. lets see how it is in the wild, same goes for any piece of technology. I don't drink kool-aid of any company. I say, shut up and deliver and let me make my own opinion. What irks me is the things that weren't mentioned, no price and no delivery date. That alone to me shows that their still trying to figure out where to price it... was it a premature announcement?? Possibly... can any help me out... did apple when first announcing the iPad, did they give price and ship date? I know they announced like 4 months in advance because they probably couldn't keep it secret that long and also devs needed to know. So why didn't MS wait? I'm a little confused on that part. Regardless, it LOOKS nice and looks like it's built well, nice materials.
For those of who saying, "I like the kick stand". Seriously? Seriously?? You'd make a purchase off of that? I'm not defending any tablet that doesn't have a kick stand, but last I checked, theirs a whole market based on cases to float your boat to your desire. Same goes w/ keyboard, stylus, etc.... I don't view that as a valid argument because all MS is doing is packaging it together, other tablets leave it as an accessory. At this point because MS didn't announce price (seriously that's a big issue when you're a late comer) I could say that buying those accessories w/ a tablet are still cheaper than the MS Surface Tablet.
Now addressing businesses. It's a small market compared to the consumer market. Please don't try and argue that because we all know that as truth. It's perfectly find to have that niche, it's definitely a big one, but it's not the biggest. So when people start pulling out, "businesses this, businesses that"... I say, sure, if you want that secondary market. What we're seeing is the shift to BYOD. So again, it falls on the consumer and IT just has to deal with it, yes they have some regulations but lets be honest, unless your dealing with sensitive data, no body abides by IT rules. So again, it needs to address consumers, that's the market, that's the money. Also, if this is business oriented, why didn't they announce pricing? How is any manager suppose to rearrange their budget for this if they have no idea what the price is... $499, $899, $1299????
Also, for those of you who say apple has been sitting on their hinds... hey, last time a checked, their screen resolution is pretty stink'n nice. Yeah they doesn't have ports, which I will give you that, but at that point... why not an ultra book or laptop? I think many of you want your tablet to be everything to everyone... that's simply impossible.
So to wrap it up, I'm disappointed MS didn't announce some very important details, makes me think this was premature or their hiding something... it just doesn't instill confidence in me. On paper, it looks decent, but until I can hold it and see the user experience, I'm not going to praise nor bash it. I wish MS the best of luck and I think they'll find a market, but will it be like WP7??? I think it'll do better, but I don't think it's an "iPad Killer". It'll just take some share of the iPad and some from Android. I'm let with this one last question... what makes people or MS think this is any different from the tablets that they've been putting out for decades? I'm seriously asking. It's a screen that I can write on that has pretty much full blown windows running on it... I've seen them plenty of time throughout the years so how is this different?
For those of who saying, "I like the kick stand". Seriously? Seriously?? You'd make a purchase off of that? I'm not defending any tablet that doesn't have a kick stand, but last I checked, theirs a whole market based on cases to float your boat to your desire. Same goes w/ keyboard, stylus, etc.... I don't view that as a valid argument because all MS is doing is packaging it together, other tablets leave it as an accessory. At this point because MS didn't announce price (seriously that's a big issue when you're a late comer) I could say that buying those accessories w/ a tablet are still cheaper than the MS Surface Tablet.
Now addressing businesses. It's a small market compared to the consumer market. Please don't try and argue that because we all know that as truth. It's perfectly find to have that niche, it's definitely a big one, but it's not the biggest. So when people start pulling out, "businesses this, businesses that"... I say, sure, if you want that secondary market. What we're seeing is the shift to BYOD. So again, it falls on the consumer and IT just has to deal with it, yes they have some regulations but lets be honest, unless your dealing with sensitive data, no body abides by IT rules. So again, it needs to address consumers, that's the market, that's the money. Also, if this is business oriented, why didn't they announce pricing? How is any manager suppose to rearrange their budget for this if they have no idea what the price is... $499, $899, $1299????
Also, for those of you who say apple has been sitting on their hinds... hey, last time a checked, their screen resolution is pretty stink'n nice. Yeah they doesn't have ports, which I will give you that, but at that point... why not an ultra book or laptop? I think many of you want your tablet to be everything to everyone... that's simply impossible.
So to wrap it up, I'm disappointed MS didn't announce some very important details, makes me think this was premature or their hiding something... it just doesn't instill confidence in me. On paper, it looks decent, but until I can hold it and see the user experience, I'm not going to praise nor bash it. I wish MS the best of luck and I think they'll find a market, but will it be like WP7??? I think it'll do better, but I don't think it's an "iPad Killer". It'll just take some share of the iPad and some from Android. I'm let with this one last question... what makes people or MS think this is any different from the tablets that they've been putting out for decades? I'm seriously asking. It's a screen that I can write on that has pretty much full blown windows running on it... I've seen them plenty of time throughout the years so how is this different?
Is this thing really only 9.3mm thick? I mean look at the ads. It looks really fat. Then look at your mbp which also has usb. It has to he at least as thick as the mbp. Now look at your iPhone which is also 9.3mm. Can you really fit a USB port on it? I dont think so either
Yea, two versions. One for tablets one for pc's. Apple is simpler since they only have one.
You have to be from another planet if you think apple stole from bill in 2002. Seriously?
Bill stole from Apple countless of times dating back to the 1980's.
I think that is what Apple is aiming for with Guided Access.
http://www.apple.com/ios/ios6/#accessibility
Yeah, not multi user but it does address those times you give an iOS device to a kid. Frankly, I think Apple isn't looking in the multi user direction because they probably expect people to all have discrete devices (unfortunately).
so what? i could go apply for a patent for a smart cover and all i need to do is alter 1 surface either on the body or on the magnetic attachment itself and call it my own. you clearly have absolutely no experience in product development and working around patents. for the same F'd up reason Apple has a lot of patents in the first place, is the same reason why they are so easily worked around (and VICE VERSA I MIGHT ADD).
you really think that Apple deserves all of the credit b/c they have a patent? oh my gosh, ring the bell.
go onto Amazon and look up the Khomo case.
I'm surprised and I applaud many of the positive comments here for Microsoft's new tablet.
The built-in features, like the kickstand and the cover/keyboard combo ideas are pretty ingenious.
I'm wondering at which price-point MS will be offering the x86 versions of their tablet/ultrabook hybrid "Surface" device? I own an iPad 3, ("new" iPad, whatever...), but find it to be lacking some of the things I use on a daily basis, such as a mouse/trackpad and a physical keyboard. Granted, I can get an optional Bluetooth keyboard, but some of the things that PCs have in terms of responsiveness and real physical input are somewhat still lacking. That, and the need for flash and a "real" desktop, still drive me to seeking out a PC for some things. I love my iPad, and I can get some things done with it, but my productivity is still unmatched to what I can do on a PC. My coworkers and professional colleagues, while using iPhones and iPads to a degree, see things the same way, or worse still, some see the iPad as a fancy "toy". I disagree with that, but it is limited to what it can do in the still "PC majority" business world.
If the x86 Surface can do what MS claims, and go head to head with the best ultrabooks out there, and function as both a tablet and a PC, I may get one as a complimenting device to my iPad, and ditch my desktop shackles once and for all. Kudos to Microsoft for offering what my finally be a true substitute for desktops and clunky laptops.
The built-in features, like the kickstand and the cover/keyboard combo ideas are pretty ingenious.
I'm wondering at which price-point MS will be offering the x86 versions of their tablet/ultrabook hybrid "Surface" device? I own an iPad 3, ("new" iPad, whatever...), but find it to be lacking some of the things I use on a daily basis, such as a mouse/trackpad and a physical keyboard. Granted, I can get an optional Bluetooth keyboard, but some of the things that PCs have in terms of responsiveness and real physical input are somewhat still lacking. That, and the need for flash and a "real" desktop, still drive me to seeking out a PC for some things. I love my iPad, and I can get some things done with it, but my productivity is still unmatched to what I can do on a PC. My coworkers and professional colleagues, while using iPhones and iPads to a degree, see things the same way, or worse still, some see the iPad as a fancy "toy". I disagree with that, but it is limited to what it can do in the still "PC majority" business world.
If the x86 Surface can do what MS claims, and go head to head with the best ultrabooks out there, and function as both a tablet and a PC, I may get one as a complimenting device to my iPad, and ditch my desktop shackles once and for all. Kudos to Microsoft for offering what my finally be a true substitute for desktops and clunky laptops.
Sometimes the old way doesn't work anymore.
I checked in to watch the announcement. I used to be a Windows user for about 27 years. Last summer I bought an iMac, since I had already used the iPhone, bought the Apple TV, and I wanted everything to work seamlessly together.
It has.
I haven't spent 5 minutes troubleshooting anything.
I was curious what Microsoft might bring to the table.
It has fail written all over it. The Disney colors are awful, the extras are antiquated out of the gate, and they are too late to the game.
Most of the people on here would probably remember how much people poked fun of the "over-sized" iPhone, the name "iPad" and here we are today - the iPad is a solid product and market leader. They will remain a market leader for a couple more years until someone brings a game-changer.
This is no game changer.
But honestly - to spend so much time simply bashing a product out of some misguided loyalty is simply baffling to me. Put your money where your mouth is and buy the product because that is your preference - don't try to ram your opinion down other people's throat. Nobody likes it when it's done with religion - so - I guess my bottom line is - if everyone liked the same thing there wouldn't be a need for commerce in the first place.
Microsoft is clinging to the same business model that has worked for them for 30 odd years. Some things don't last forever.
But you honestly can't say that this is a game changing product. It's also clinging to the old and being afraid to try something new - and that is what drives the fanboy madness.
I am 51 and I thought that I would go nuts leaving Windows behind after almost 30 years. But it was completely painless.
I hope that those of you who say "This is the tablet I have been waiting for." do your research first or you will spend a fair amount of money for something that will quickly move into obsolescence...
I checked in to watch the announcement. I used to be a Windows user for about 27 years. Last summer I bought an iMac, since I had already used the iPhone, bought the Apple TV, and I wanted everything to work seamlessly together.
It has.
I haven't spent 5 minutes troubleshooting anything.
I was curious what Microsoft might bring to the table.
It has fail written all over it. The Disney colors are awful, the extras are antiquated out of the gate, and they are too late to the game.
Most of the people on here would probably remember how much people poked fun of the "over-sized" iPhone, the name "iPad" and here we are today - the iPad is a solid product and market leader. They will remain a market leader for a couple more years until someone brings a game-changer.
This is no game changer.
But honestly - to spend so much time simply bashing a product out of some misguided loyalty is simply baffling to me. Put your money where your mouth is and buy the product because that is your preference - don't try to ram your opinion down other people's throat. Nobody likes it when it's done with religion - so - I guess my bottom line is - if everyone liked the same thing there wouldn't be a need for commerce in the first place.
Microsoft is clinging to the same business model that has worked for them for 30 odd years. Some things don't last forever.
But you honestly can't say that this is a game changing product. It's also clinging to the old and being afraid to try something new - and that is what drives the fanboy madness.
I am 51 and I thought that I would go nuts leaving Windows behind after almost 30 years. But it was completely painless.
I hope that those of you who say "This is the tablet I have been waiting for." do your research first or you will spend a fair amount of money for something that will quickly move into obsolescence...
Wait, who won that again? I can not remember if it was units sold or which company had the worse rate converting it back into ¥.
That sounds more like accessibility add-ons with a hint of managem...Oh wait it is.
I was more interested in multiple user accounts on the same tablet.
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wooow a new tablet!!!!
Yes people I'm fascinated with the new tablet but u never imagine this with windows 8.
1. windows 8 runs without unix so . happy welcome to viruses yeahhhhhhhh buy a antivirus wooojooo 2 . Most of the windows systems has problems like with his own system sooooooo at least u will have ctrl alt and delete for ur problems .
3. i know that maybe will have his own keyboard and will be beautiful how looks but to use the keyboard u will need a table to write :S .. maybe in this case yes this is a new advance for microsoft but i prefer to stay with Apple iOS cuzz i don't want internal crashes, viruses and a beautiful keyboard to use cuzz i need a table so think about it very well so enjoy it !!!
Yes people I'm fascinated with the new tablet but u never imagine this with windows 8.
1. windows 8 runs without unix so . happy welcome to viruses
yeahhhhhhhh buy a antivirus wooojooo 2 . Most of the windows systems has problems like with his own system sooooooo at least u will have ctrl alt and delete for ur problems .3. i know that maybe will have his own keyboard and will be beautiful how looks but to use the keyboard u will need a table to write :S .. maybe in this case yes this is a new advance for microsoft but i prefer to stay with Apple iOS cuzz i don't want internal crashes, viruses and a beautiful keyboard to use cuzz i need a table so think about it very well so enjoy it !!!
Time will tell if it will be competitive or not. Price and functionality will go a long way toward that. Perhaps Microsoft will do what they did with the XBox and keep throwing money at it until it gets market share.
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Apple has over $100 Billion in cash on hand... Even the almighty MS doesn't come close...
It's funny...
M$ also had to stress in their press release about how they have engineered it from the inside and out... they did their own tear down and showed off all the bits and boards... rather than let iFixit do it
So, curious about what they're trying to emphasise there... but anyway.
They just not comfortable with the pure tablet form factor, still have to hang a keyboard off it..
Now we kind of understand more about the patent swap Apple did with M$...
Including touch screen gestures and screen elements...
M$ also had to stress in their press release about how they have engineered it from the inside and out... they did their own tear down and showed off all the bits and boards... rather than let iFixit do it
So, curious about what they're trying to emphasise there... but anyway.
They just not comfortable with the pure tablet form factor, still have to hang a keyboard off it..
Now we kind of understand more about the patent swap Apple did with M$...
Including touch screen gestures and screen elements...
Surface
Need price,and Battery Life to give an opinion.
Is it me or does Balmer look like crap in the images?
Need price,and Battery Life to give an opinion.
Is it me or does Balmer look like crap in the images?
You know, what they showed off today could be traced back to the eMate. Handwritting input, keyboard input, etc...
Lets just stop with the who did what first game. You can always take it a step farther back and frankly it doesn't really matter. We rarely remember who did something first and frankly even when we do we often get it wrong to some degree.
